Why does God allow us to suffer?

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I don't have to understand faith - I just have to be able to count!

More people 'switch' from being religious to atheism than the reverse.

Do your research.

I have seen people go from Christian to Atheist and back to Christian again. Hows that equate in your propaganda?

 

[joshua 1 9]

1 in 3 of my comments are appreciated enough by others here for them to kindly 'like' them.

I have not read your posts but this could be that you tickle their itching ears and say what they want to hear. Being popular if anything shows that you do not represent the truth. Jesus says that there are few people that are able to enter into eternal life and the majority take the way leading to destruction.

"For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear."

 

[SteveB28]

Thats not exactly how it happened. I never claimed that my faith didnt come from scripture. I was merely suggesting that your beliefs come from propaganda.

What propaganda!?

What pastor, what priest do I listen to? What book of fables and myths do I consult?

Your criticism seems to be that we should not place our trust solely in the words of other men.

I would wholeheartedly agree!!

And yet, that is exactly what you do!

 

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And nor was my comment originally directed towards you. You butted in.

I knew that, i wanted to answer anyway.

 

[SteveB28]

I have seen people go from Christian to Atheist and back to Christian again. Hows that equate in your propaganda?

Any time you would like to produce data other than baseless claims would be useful.

 

[Extraneous]

Are you trying to make a cause for mandatory abortion?
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Heck no. Im not

 

[Extraneous]

What propaganda!?

What pastor, what priest do I listen to? What book of fables and myths do I consult?

Your criticism seems to be that we should not place our trust solely in the words of other men.

I would wholeheartedly agree!!

And yet, that is exactly what you do!

You do as well.

 

[Extraneous]

Any time you would like to produce data other than baseless claims would be useful.

Yours is not data, its called propaganda.

 

[joshua 1 9]

What gibberish are you trotting out now?

The gibberish I am talking about is to build and to create rather then to tear down and destroy. After WW2 we had to build back what has been destroyed during the war. We had to learn to live in a world that was at peace and not a world in destruction mode and at war with itself. Of course WW3 is going to make WW2 look like a cake walk so maybe you are just gearing ourself up and getting prepared for that degree of destruction and annihilation.

 

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I believe i read testimony from a few people on this website who claimed to go from Christian, to atheist, and back to Christian again.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Why do you think your God forbids killing in his commandments?

Jesus teaching was the way of peace. Follows by people like Gandhi and Martin King. He said to do good and not evil. Even return good when others are evil. This is what it means to be a Child of God. The devil came to kill, steal and destroy and his children follow after that. This is a choice everyone has to make as there are two types of people in this world. Always there are those who produce and those who plunder the production of others. There is the way of progress to build up and to create then there are those who are at war with themselves and the world. They just want to tear down and annihilate. They will only destroy themselves in the end.

 

[SteveB28]

I have not read your posts but this could be that you tickle their itching ears and say what they want to hear. Being popular if anything shows that you do not represent the truth. Jesus says that there are few people that are able to enter into eternal life and the majority take the way leading to destruction.

"For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear."

Oh please! Your generosity is overwhelming!

 

[joshua 1 9]

I believe i read testimony from a few people on this website who claimed to go from Christian, to atheist, and back to Christian again.

Maybe there are people that quit the dead, harlot, apostate church and join the true, living Church of Christ. Even during the tribulation there will be Christians that are dead that will come alive. Perhaps one day they will be chopping off heads and then they will repent and it will be their turn to have their head chopped off. Live by the sword, die by the sword. As a man sows, so shall he reap.

 

[Extraneous]

What propaganda!?

What pastor, what priest do I listen to? What book of fables and myths do I consult?

Your criticism seems to be that we should not place our trust solely in the words of other men.

I would wholeheartedly agree!!

And yet, that is exactly what you do!

I was thinking about this. I don't have a priest or a pastor. I dont even go to church. I would like to go to a simple little Church but i cant. I don't even have a counselor.

 

[SteveB28]

I was thinking about this. I don't have a priest or a pastor. I dont even go to church. I would like to go to a simple little Church but i cant. I don't even have a counselor.

But you do have a book. A book written by other men.

And it informs your belief.

You place your trust and your faith in what you are told.

 

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But you do have a book. A book written by other men.

And it informs your belief.

You place your trust and your faith in what you are told.

My heart guides me as well. I know you think that is nonsense but its not.

 

[SteveB28]

My heart guides me as well. I know you think that is nonsense but its not.

Yes, yes. But you first accepted what you had been instructed by that book. If you had not, there would be an equal chance that you might have become a Muslim, Jew, Hindu, or any one of hundreds of other religious adherences.

But the distribution is not equal, is it? People follow what they have been told by those around them. Muslims create more Muslims, Christians more Christians, Buddhists more Buddhists.

It has little to do with 'hearts'. It has everything to do with believing what you have been told.

 

[Extraneous]

Yes, yes. But you first accepted what you had been instructed by that book. If you had not, there would be an equal chance that you might have become a Muslim, Jew, Hindu, or any one of hundreds of other religious adherences.

But the distribution is not equal, is it? People follow what they have been told by those around them. Muslims create more Muslims, Christians more Christians, Buddhists more Buddhists.

It has little to do with 'hearts'. It has everything to do with believing what you have been told.

You follow what you been told as well. I wont be afraid on my death bed my friend. I will be happy. When my days come to end, my work will be done and so will Gods, and i will eagerly leave this temporary world and enter into the eternal life which is promised to us. Despite all that this world has thrown at me, i am so very happy, and the best is yet to come.

Proverbs 3:12 For whom the Lord loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

13 Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding.

14 For the merchandise of it is better than the merchandise of silver, and the gain thereof than fine gold.

15 She is more precious than rubies: and all the things thou canst desire are not to be compared unto her.

16 Length of days is in her right hand; and in her left hand riches and honour.

17 Her ways are ways of pleasantness, and all her paths are peace.

18 She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy is every one that retaineth her.

19 The Lord by wisdom hath founded the earth; by understanding hath he established the heavens.

20 By his knowledge the depths are broken up, and the clouds drop down the dew.

21 My son, let not them depart from thine eyes: keep sound wisdom and discretion:

22 So shall they be life unto thy soul, and grace to thy neck.

23 Then shalt thou walk in thy way safely, and thy foot shall not stumble.

24 When thou liest down, thou shalt not be afraid: yea, thou shalt lie down, and thy sleep shall be sweet.

25 Be not afraid of sudden fear, neither of the desolation of the wicked, when it cometh.

26 For the Lord shall be thy confidence, and shall keep thy foot from being taken.

 

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Second time i posted that scripture, and this song, today. I just cant help it. Im so happy. Happiness is a room without a roof.

 

[SteveB28]

You follow what you been told as well. I wont be afraid on my death bed my friend. I will be happy. When my days come to end, my work will be done and so will Gods, and i will eagerly leave this temporary world and enter into the eternal life which is promised to us. Despite all that this world has thrown at me, i am so very happy, and the best is yet to come.

Proverbs 3:12 For whom the Lord loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

13 Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding.

14 For the merchandise of it is better than the merchandise of silver, and the gain thereof than fine gold.

15 She is more precious than rubies: and all the things thou canst desire are not to be compared unto her.

16 Length of days is in her right hand; and in her left hand riches and honour.

17 Her ways are ways of pleasantness, and all her paths are peace.

18 She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy is every one that retaineth her.

19 The Lord by wisdom hath founded the earth; by understanding hath he established the heavens.

20 By his knowledge the depths are broken up, and the clouds drop down the dew.

21 My son, let not them depart from thine eyes: keep sound wisdom and discretion:

22 So shall they be life unto thy soul, and grace to thy neck.

23 Then shalt thou walk in thy way safely, and thy foot shall not stumble.

24 When thou liest down, thou shalt not be afraid: yea, thou shalt lie down, and thy sleep shall be sweet.

25 Be not afraid of sudden fear, neither of the desolation of the wicked, when it cometh.

26 For the Lord shall be thy confidence, and shall keep thy foot from being taken.

Save the preaching for those who will respond to it. You only do it to confirm your own biases.

And you are totally incorrect. I form my understandings on the basis of EVIDENCE. Unlike the religious, I do not hold that there is an immutable 'truth' which one must preserve at all costs. More evidence usually leads to greater understanding. And if that leads to a change in view, then so be it.