Time and the speed of c

[Subduction Zone]

Jesus is God Almighty. Creator.
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Really? Where did you get that idea from?

 

[juvenissun]

http://news.stanford.edu/news/2010/august/sun-082310.html

And that's just from energy added by the sun - let alone energy from acceleration.

Thanks for the link.

 

[dad]

Words don't mean what words mean outside the fishbowl?

God's creation does not all run on fishbowl time.

Also, still waiting on answers tothese questions:
How big is the fishbowl?

Big enough to contain man till Jesus returns.

What is the fishbowl made of?

All we live in and the timespace and laws we know. The exact boundries of the fishbowl do not matter since you won't get that far anyhow.

Why can't we detect the fishbowl?

It is all you detect.

 

[dad]

Really? Where did you get that idea from?

Naturally the One who created the universe created time here as we know it also. This isn't the thread to agonize over whether Jesus created all things, that is simply bible..takey or leavey.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Naturally the One who created the universe created time here as we know it also. This isn't the thread to agonize over whether Jesus created all things, that is simply bible..takey or leavey.

Since the Bible is far from being a science book and has many errors in the area of science, how about "leavey"?

 

[joshua 1 9]

Since the Bible is far from being a science book and has many errors in the area of science, how about "leavey"?

The Bible has no "errors in the area of science": zip, zero, none. I have no doubt that people have errors in their understanding and interpretation of the Bible. In this regard Science esp the Scientific method can help us to better understand the Bible and it's message for us today in our generation.

The simple idea of nothing, a concept that even toddlers can understand, proves surprisingly difficult for the scientists to pin down, with some of them questioning whether such a thing as nothing exists at all.

"Maybe nothing will never be resolved," according to Neil deGrasse Tyson
Jesus says: "With man this is impossible, but not with God; all things are possible with God."

 

[The Cadet]

The Bible has no "errors in the area of science": zip, zero, none.

Except for a global flood that is scientifically impossible in no less than 10 different ways.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Naturally the One who created the universe created time here as we know it also. This isn't the thread to agonize over whether Jesus created all things, that is simply bible..takey or leavey.

The point is that Jesus is the word of God. We know now that DNA is the language of God. So it was through Jesus that the world was created. Only because of man's transgression God's absolute justice required man to die in his sin and transgression. There was only one alternative, If we do not die, then Jesus had to die in our place. Through one man: Adam sin entered into the world and through one man: Jesus the price is paid for that sin.

What people do not seem to realize is the scribes were very accurate for many thousands of years because of the mathematical precision of the Bible, what we call the Word of God. The Bible is accurate because God continues to watch over His word to perform it. We see this same precision in DNA where it is able to correct the copy errors and maintain it's integrity. Of course our DNA is under a lot of attacks from virus, but that is a different story.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Except for a global flood that is scientifically impossible in no less than 10 different ways.

Good example of where Science helps us to better understand our Bible and even to be careful with man made traditions. There is no contradiction between Science and Bishop Ussher's chronology. There is no contradiction between Science and the Bible. Only Science helps us to know how to interpret the Bible.

 

[The Cadet]

There is no contradiction between Science and Bishop Ussher's chronology.

If you believe this, then you know nothing about science. See, this is the fundamental problem with statements like this:

The Bible has no "errors in the area of science": zip, zero, none.

The people making it invariably either don't know what the science says, or are willing to lie about it.

 

[joshua 1 9]

If you believe this, then you know nothing about science.

I know plenty about science. More then the vast majority of people in this world. I even know more then a fifth grader. I most likely know more then an eighth grader. How about you and the Bible? Do you know as much about the Bible as a third grader?

 

[The Cadet]

I know plenty about science.

Great, then maybe you can tell me how genetic bottlenecks work, and why we can detect bottlenecks more than 10,000 years old in several species.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The Bible has no "errors in the area of science": zip, zero, none. I have no doubt that people have errors in their understanding and interpretation of the Bible. In this regard Science esp the Scientific method can help us to better understand the Bible and it's message for us today in our generation.

The simple idea of nothing, a concept that even toddlers can understand, proves surprisingly difficult for the scientists to pin down, with some of them questioning whether such a thing as nothing exists at all.

"Maybe nothing will never be resolved," according to Neil deGrasse Tyson
Jesus says: "With man this is impossible, but not with God; all things are possible with God."

Sorry but the list goes on and on. You only hurt your religion by making this claim.

And as Cadet pointed out you cannot know anything of science. Quoting scientists out of context is not knowing science. But let's start with the idea of a worldwide flood.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Sorry but the list goes on and on. You only hurt your religion by making this claim.

And as Cadet pointed out you cannot know anything of science. Quoting scientists out of context is not knowing science. But let's start with the idea of a worldwide flood.

I know more about Science then you seem to know about the Bible and there is no contradiction. There is not even a beginning to your list, so it can not go on. If you are claiming there are contradictions then present the first one. Lets get started with substantiating your claim.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Great, then maybe you can tell me how genetic bottlenecks work, and why we can detect bottlenecks more than 10,000 years old in several species.

What is your point? You want to discuss 101 evolutionary theories? The age we live in began at the last extinction about 13,000 years ago. Adam and Eve in the Bible lived in the Garden of Eden in the Tigris Euphrates river valley between the rivers in modern day Iraq. AT the time it was called Mesopotamia. That was around 6,000 years ago.

The Bible, the part written by Moses goes back 3500 years. Before that the stories were recorded on Clay tablets that goes back to Sumeria and the beginning of writting and the written language. Abraham was actually a Chaldean from the city of Ur. This is a city that has been excavated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur

 

[Subduction Zone]

I know more about Science then you seem to know about the Bible and there is no contradiction. There is not even a beginning to your list, so it can not go on. If you are claiming there are contradictions then present the first one. Lets get started with substantiating your claim.

You are so obviously wrong. We are getting far off the topic here, but we know that there never was a worldwide flood. In fact there never was a need for an ark.

 

[Subduction Zone]

What is your point? You want to discuss 101 evolutionary theories? The age we live in began at the last extinction about 13,000 years ago. Adam and Eve in the Bible lived in the Garden of Eden in the Tigris Euphrates river valley between the rivers in modern day Iraq. AT the time it was called Mesopotamia. That was around 6,000 years ago.

The Bible, the part written by Moses goes back 3500 years. Before that the stories were recorded on Clay tablets that goes back to Sumeria and the beginning of writting and the written language. Abraham was actually a Chaldean from the city of Ur. This is a city that has been excavated.

It seems that you are making your own strange interpretation of the Bible. Perhaps it would be best if you tell us what you think the Bible says. Your beliefs are clearly not the same as many other creationists here.

 

[joshua 1 9]

It seems that you are making your own strange interpretation of the Bible. Perhaps it would be best if you tell us what you think the Bible says. Your beliefs are clearly not the same as many other creationists here.

I told you my understanding of the Bible is based on what I know about Science. Esp the science of archaeology and our understanding of ancient history. Science helps us to understand the Bible and the message that the Bible has for us today in our generation. I actually accept all of the creationist theories. But you have to understand them in the light of science. We need to accept what science has to contribute to the discussion.

Science makes the Bible more interesting and the Bible makes Science more interesting.
That is why they compliment each other.

 

[Subduction Zone]

What is your point? You want to discuss 101 evolutionary theories? The age we live in began at the last extinction about 13,000 years ago. Adam and Eve in the Bible lived in the Garden of Eden in the Tigris Euphrates river valley between the rivers in modern day Iraq. AT the time it was called Mesopotamia. That was around 6,000 years ago.

The Bible, the part written by Moses goes back 3500 years. Before that the stories were recorded on Clay tablets that goes back to Sumeria and the beginning of writting and the written language. Abraham was actually a Chaldean from the city of Ur. This is a city that has been excavated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur

It looks like you are a believer that makes the error of reinterpreting the Bible in the light of present day knowledge. Though not as bad of a system as that of literalists you still end up grasping at straws and making other such errors.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I told you my understanding of the Bible is based on what I know about Science. Esp the science of archaeology and our understanding of ancient history. Science helps us to understand the Bible and the message that the Bible has for us today in our generation.

And as I just said, you bias your "knowledge of Archaeology" based upon the Bible.

So how do you explain the "flood"? It would not have wiped out mankind if you go by a local flood.