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[Subduction Zone]

No. The third heaven is above and beyond the stars.

Sorry, but there is no reliable evidence for such nonsense.

But thanks for playing.

 

[dad]

Sorry, but there is no reliable evidence for such nonsense.

But thanks for playing.

Yes, God's word says so. You have no evidence, reliable or otherwise He is a cotton pickin liar.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yes, God's word says so. You have no evidence, reliable or otherwise He is a cotton pickin liar.

Nope, I can assure that it does not.

And of course I have evidence. Sadly you don't understand that concept at all. And I never claimed that God is a liar. In fact it is much more likely that you have done so.

 

[[serious]]

How far you been?

I've never been more than 3 feet from myself.

 

[Loudmouth]

No man was ever out of tge fishbowl. That IS your frame of reference. Stir with your little stick all you like. The universe marches to the tune of another Drummer.

I asked for evidence. Where is it?

 

[dad]

Nope, I can assure that it does not.

You really claim you can show Scripture doesn't say Jesus created the world, and the heavens where the sun and stars are, and the heavens above those?? Go ahead...step in it.

And of course I have evidence.

You cannot admit that molesting evidence with godless baseless beliefs is not evidence. Not my problem. We go by what you post...clearly you are unable to secure a loan in the actual idea dept.

If you claim Jesus never created and peddle the big bang and evilution, that is a defacto claim God is a dirty low down liar.

 

[dad]

I asked for evidence. Where is it?

Man has not been too far out.

 

[Loudmouth]

You really claim you can show Scripture doesn't say Jesus created the world, and the heavens where the sun and stars are, and the heavens above those?? Go ahead...step in it.
You cannot admit that molesting evidence with godless baseless beliefs is not evidence. Not my problem. We go by what you post...clearly you are unable to secure a loan in the actual idea dept.

You haven't shown that any data has been molested, nor that there are any baseless beleifs. You just refuse to accept facts.

 

[Loudmouth]

Man has not been too far out.

Where is the evidence for this fishbowl?

 

[dad]

I've never been more than 3 feet from myself.

Claim accordingly.

 

[dad]

You haven't shown that any data has been molested, nor that there are any baseless beleifs. .

Look at a star and do not assume and believe time exists there as it does here. Unless you prove time and space exists there exactly as here, you are imposing belif on what is seen. Same with atoms. Same with continental drift, if you assume slow movements over great time. Same with evolution, if you assume it always was evolving IN this nature. Same with the fossil record, if you (as you do) believe that Adam should or could have fossilized...etc etc etc. You have a one trick pony. A one act play. It grew old fast.

 

[dad]

Where is the evidence for this fishbowl?

The evidence is the limited range of direct experience (forget the indirect nonsense which is pure religious nonsense) mankind has of the universe, in actually going anywhere.

 

[Loudmouth]

Look at a star and do not assume and believe time exists there as it does here.

That would be a molestation of the evidence because the evidence demonstrates that time does exist there. The light wouldn't be able to reach us if photons were not moving through space. The sky would be black if there was not time and space out there.

Unless you prove time and space exists . . .

Already done.

 

[Loudmouth]

The evidence is the limited range of direct experience . . .

Evidence FOR the fish bowl, not lack of evidence for other things.

 

[dad]

That would be a molestation of the evidence because the evidence demonstrates that time does exist there. The light wouldn't be able to reach us if photons were not moving through space. The sky would be black if there was not time and space out there.

Thanks for shooting yourself in the foot so fast. You assume that movement equals time. Hilarious. Fishbowl philosophy.

The devil took Jesus to a high mountain and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. That alone shows that time as we know it can be whisked aside like falling leaves. Only for us is time the way it is here. We are not insignificant as science falsely teaches! We are the reason for the time and space we know!

 

[Loudmouth]

Thanks for shooting yourself in the foot so fast. You assume that movement equals time.

Movement is DEFINED as distance covered in a unit of time. You have to have both space and time for movement.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You really claim you can show Scripture doesn't say Jesus created the world, and the heavens where the sun and stars are, and the heavens above those?? Go ahead...step in it.[/qoute]

What do you mean by "Scripture"? It appears that you have made more than one mistake here. First off we know that the Bible is clearly not the "word of God". If you make that claim you are making rather blasphemous claims about your God.

You cannot admit that molesting evidence with godless baseless beliefs is not evidence. Not my problem. We go by what you post...clearly you are unable to secure a loan in the actual idea dept.

Whether a God exists or not does should not matter when we are looking at evidence. And I have no need to molest the evidence. I am not a creationist after all. You have demonstrated that you do not understand the nature of evidence, but I am more than happy to help you in that lack.

 

[dad]

Movement is DEFINED as distance covered in a unit of time. You have to have both space and time for movement.

That is fishbowl rules. The future, and the spiritual, and the physical affected by the spiritual does not obey fishbowl rules.

 

[dad]

The evidence you clearly molest, by your manyposts we see this. Be open minded.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The evidence you clearly molest, by your manyposts we see this. Be open minded.

Not once. Please how me one and how I supposedly molested evidence.