Short Timer said in post 4781:
Did the OT saints that Jesus resurrected, some of which appeared in Jerusalem, go to heaven with Jesus when he ascended wearing their glorified bodies????
Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
Note that the original Greek word (egeiro: G1453) translated as "arose" in Matthew 27:52 can refer to recently-dead people's bodies being resuscitated back to mortal life, like how Jesus "raised (egeiro)" the recently-dead Lazarus (John 12:1), who was one of Jesus' followers (John 11:11, cf. John 15:14), back to mortal life, by crying out with a loud voice (John 11:43-44). The dead saints who were raised sometime later when they heard Jesus cry out with a loud voice on the Cross (Matthew 27:50-52, John 5:25), and who came out of their graves after Jesus' physical resurrection (Matthew 27:53), could have also been recently-dead followers of Jesus. Their bodies were resuscitated back to mortal life, like happened with Lazarus (John 12:1). For the resurrection of Jesus' followers into immortal physical bodies won't happen until his 2nd coming (1 Corinthians 15:21-23,52-53; 1 Thessalonians 4:15-16, Revelation 19:7 to 20:6), which won't happen until immediately after the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24 (Matthew 24:29-31; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8, Revelation 19:7 to 20:6).
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Short Timer said in post 4795:
My Bible says the unsaved and Tares cast into hell at the second coming are not resurrected until the GWT, or after the Mill Reign is over.
Regarding the parable of the wheat and the tares (Matthew 13:24-30,36-43), in Matthew 13:38 the good seed are the elect, and the tares are the nonelect, the human children of Satan, who can't ever believe in Jesus (John 8:42-47). Matthew 13:40-42 won't occur at the 2nd coming, but at the great white throne judgment (Revelation 20:11-14), after the future millennium and subsequent events (Revelation 20:7-10), when the unsaved will be cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:15). In Matthew 13:43, the kingdom of the Father is after the great white throne judgment, when a new earth (a new surface of the earth) will be created, and God the Father will descend from heaven in the literal city of New Jerusalem to live with the church on the new earth (Revelation 21:1-3).
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Short Timer said in post 4807:
Angels are not "Brothers" to "Sons of Son" i.e. "Prophets".
Note that Revelation 22:9 can be read as follows:
Revelation 22:9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am
thy fellowservant, and [the fellowservant] of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
That is, the angel in Revelation 22:8-9 wasn't saying that he was a human, but was simply saying that he also was a servant of God, along with John, the prophets, and all other obedient humans.
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Short Timer said in post 4821:
They're brothers because they are both "Sons of God" and being "Prophets", makes them brothers or Sons of God.
which angels can never be, or even hinted at being.
Note that angels are sons of God:
Job 1:6 ¶Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
Job 2:1 ¶Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.
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Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy . . .
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Short Timer said in post 4837:
The second coming is mentioned throughout the OT, but if Jesus/church was a mystery, as scripture say, why wouldn't the Mystery of the Rapture of Jesus/church not also be a mystery coming not mentioned or known????
Are you thinking of the following verse?
1 Corinthians 15:51 ¶Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed . . .
If so, note that Paul didn't call the rapture-coming itself a mystery in 1 Corinthians 15:51, for Jesus had already clearly taught the rapture-coming in the Gospels (John 14:3b, Matthew 24:30-31, Mark 13:26-27, cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:1). Instead, the mystery explained in 1 Corinthians 15:51-55 (cf. John 11:26) is the instantaneous changing of living believers into immortal physical bodies, at the same, 2nd-coming time that the
bodies of dead believers will be resurrected from their graves into immortal physical bodies (1 Corinthians 15:51-55; 1 Corinthians 15:21-23, Romans 8:23-25). It is only after this 2nd-coming resurrection and changing that the rapture (the catching up together/gathering together) of all believers will occur (1 Thessalonians 4:16b-17; 2 Thessalonians 2:1, Matthew 24:30-31, John 14:3b).
Also, there was a contrast between the Old Testament prophecies regarding the Messiah's/the Christ's coming, with some of them showing him coming to be meekly crucified for our sins (Isaiah 53, Psalms 22), and others showing him literally descending from heaven to wage war and to physically reign on the earth (Zechariah 14, Micah 4:1-4). But note that nothing in the Old or New Testament requires a future (to us), pre-tribulation coming of Christ versus only a post-tribulation coming of Christ. For all the as-yet-unfulfilled Old and New Testament prophecies regarding Christ's coming will be fulfilled at or sometime after his post-tribulation coming.