CHRISTIAN DAYCARE WORKERS FIRED FOR REFUSING TO CALL A LITTLE GIRL A BOY

[Cute Tink]

Letting homosexuals adopt children is child abuse. Good thing for this little girl that she's a girl, not a boy, because then that abuse might extend to the homosexuals sodomizing the boy.

Homosexual is not the same as child molester. This post is beyond ignorant.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Yeah, seriously! You seem to want some lines blurred and seem so tolerant of someone wanting something, but you don't seem to accept the fact that once a line is crossed, then other demands can be made.

So what's wrong with making demands?

So then they want laws changed, even if it makes people in society uncomfortable for the sake of their own comfort.

And who made society's "comfort" such a high priority?

 

[Aldebaran]

Homosexual is not the same as child molester. This post is beyond ignorant.

But taking a little girl and trying to turn her into a boy is definately child abuse. The fact that 2 homosexual men would do this to a little girl is not surprising to me. It is one example of the abuse that occurs when homosexuals are recognized as "married" and then are allowed to adopt children.

 

[bhsmte]

Let me clarify my problem with my understanding of your position: You are suggesting that a medical doctor, without psychological training, be able to evaluate the credentials of a therapist chosen by the parents based upon his subjective criteria, arbitrarily dismiss the diagnosis of the therapist and assign the family to another therapist of his choosing. Then, if the parents don't agree with the doctor, report them so the government can do the same.

All based on a very loose determination of the child being "abused".

And you wonder why I might have a problem with it?

Let me get this straight.

You don't think your average primary care physician, when presented with a concern about a child, is not capable of referring the child to a therapist with qualifications to work with and evaluate children?

I hate to break it to you, but primary care physicians, are the most broadly trained of any physician type and they have to be, because it is their duty, to refer patients to qualified experts when called for.

To think a primary care physician, is not capable of doing so, is wrong.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

My third point being: They want everyone else to allow them to do whatever they please, even if it violates the law. So then they want laws changed, even if it makes people in society uncomfortable for the sake of their own comfort. Doesn't changing the law to allow men into women's restrooms sound very much like what I just said? So it's very much relevant, because it is exactly what is being suggested.

Men can currently go into women's restrooms. As far as I'm aware, that has never been illegal.

 

[TLK Valentine]

But taking a little girl and trying to turn her into a boy is definately child abuse.

Not necessarily.

The fact that 2 homosexual men would do this to a little girl is not surprising to me. It is one example of the abuse that occurs when homosexuals are recognized as "married" and then are allowed to adopt children.

So if a heterosexual couple did this, then you'd be surprised?

 

[Cute Tink]

But taking a little girl and trying to turn her into a boy is definately child abuse. The fact that 2 homosexual men would do this to a little girl is not surprising to me. It is one example of the abuse that occurs when homosexuals are recognized as "married" and then are allowed to adopt children.

No evidence whatsoever has been brought to this discussion that would indicate they are forcing anything on the child.

Are you drawing this conclusion solely on the basis that they are gay, or are you withholding the evidence you are using to decide that?

 

[Sammy-San]

I can guarantee you, if two male parents had their young child visit a doctor for a checkup and they insisted the doctor call a girl a boy, red flags would come up and the doctor would be obliged to contact CPS.

Now, an investigation may show the child is not being damaged, but whenever a child is involved in something of his nature, it would raise questions.

I'm not saying I agree with the lifestyle, but how is being transgender considered neglectful?

 

[Cute Tink]

Let me get this straight.

You don't think your average primary care physician, when presented with a concern about a child, is not capable of referring the child to a therapist with qualifications to work with and evaluate children?

No. That's not what I said. I posted about how wrong it is that you want a doctor to have the authority to dismiss the diagnosis of a therapist and assign another therapist based on arbitrary and subjective criteria or giving the government the authority to do the same.

 

[His Disciple]

No evidence whatsoever has been brought to this discussion that would indicate they are forcing anything on the child.

It's pretty disguising when people defend perverts abusing children. So, it's your argument a young child can give consent? Pedophiles around the world want to give you a hug.

 

[Sistrin]

From the OP:



The transgender agenda...

There is no religious right to force your beliefs on the child.

There is no right to force your beliefs on the other children in the school or their parents. But the LGBT crowd will insist on doing just that.

 

[Cute Tink]

It's pretty disguising when people defend perverts abusing children. So, it's your argument a young child can give consent? Pedophiles around the world want to give you a hug.

I think you might want to invest in some reading comprehension classes.

Homosexual is not the same as child molester. That you think they are the same is blatantly ignorant.

I don't defend perverts abusing children. Homosexuals aren't perverts abusing children.

 

[Cute Tink]

There is no right to force your beliefs on the other children in the school or their parents. But the LGBT crowd will insist on doing just that.

No belief is being forced on the other children or the parents.

 

[bhsmte]

No evidence whatsoever has been brought to this discussion that would indicate they are forcing anything on the child.

Are you drawing this conclusion solely on the basis that they are gay, or are you withholding the evidence you are using to decide that?

When a child is examined in a doctors office and they have unusual bruising, there is also no evidence directly pointing to the parents. Even if the child is asked, they will likely initially protect the parents, even if they are being abused, because they likely fear them.

Now, chances are, a mandatory reporter is going to investigate this bruising further, because of the concern it causes them and a need to find out the source. It may be, the child plays rough and got the bruising that way, or it could be, the child is being abused and you can't get to the bottom of it, without further investigation.

Same applies to young child presenting themselves (or parents saying the child should be called as the opposite gender). It would cause some concern and need to be investigated further.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

There's a famous case where parents tried to force a normal kid to be trans. It never stuck and he eventually killed himself. I can't remember the case unfortunately.

I remember a case where the parents did the opposite, that you are describing. Then the teen killed her self. Leelah Alcorn

 

[Sammy-San]

It has more to do with recognizing abnormal and knowing when to investigate, to assure the child is ok.

People who are "mandatory reporters" who are presented with this type of situation and didn't prompt an independent investigation, could and would lose their license, if something bad was to happen to the child.

The tricky thing is-who/what defines neglect? I don't know of any law that explicitly states allowing a child being transgender is neglect. Situations like this seem like legal grey areas.

 

[Cute Tink]

When a child is examined in a doctors office and they have unusual bruising, there is also no evidence directly pointing to the parents. Even if the child is asked, they will likely initially protect the parents, even if they are being abused, because they likely fear them.

Now, chances are, a mandatory reporter is going to investigate this bruising further, because of the concern it causes them and a need to find out the source. It may be, the child plays rough and got the bruising that way, or it could be, the child is being abused and you can't get to the bottom of it, without further investigation.

Same applies to young child presenting themselves (or parents saying the child should be called as the opposite gender). It would cause some concern and need to be investigated further.

Again, to relate it to this case, what evidence is there that this child is suffering any sort of abuse?

Being trans is not a sign of abuse or neglect. You are even willing to allow officials to disregard a diagnosis of a therapist on a subjective and arbitrary basis, so I have a really hard time believing that this position is really about the well being of the child, but a disagreement with the diagnosis.

 

[bhsmte]

The tricky thing is-who/what defines neglect? I don't know of any law that explicitly states allowing a child being transgender is neglect. Situations like this seem like legal grey areas.

No one is claiming neglect, when there is reason to investigate further. They are simply saying, something is giving them concern and it needs to be investigated. It would be up to the investigation, to determine if there is any type of abuse going on.

 

[Cute Tink]

No one is claiming neglect, when there is reason to investigate further. They are simply saying, something is giving them concern and it needs to be investigated. It would be up to the investigation, to determine if there is any type of abuse going on.

They are stating that there is cause to believe there may be abuse or neglect, in the case of your argument, even if they have a diagnosis.

 

[TLK Valentine]

There is no right to force your beliefs on the other children in the school or their parents.

If I had a nickel for every Christian I wished knew this...