Yeah ok haha. If you don't think we can understand these written dialogs then.... oky doky. You're just making your religion into whatever you want it to be.
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Yeah ok haha. If you don't think we can understand these written dialogs then.... oky doky. You're just making your religion into whatever you want it to be.
We have very clearly written dialogs of this god telling people to burn women, telling his people he would make them eat their children, telling people that he would send rapists to rape them and kill their babies, or stories of him sending bears to kill children, or him sending angels to kill thousands of children for someone else's wrong doing or him telling people to kill homosexuals outright.
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I'm serious.
Even science will tell you that this world is not what it seems: Time is an illusion, and matter is actually light. Just as I said...light and magic. But if you are inside the creation, you are in no position to perceive the reality of the matter. It all has been told openly...but on a need-to-know basis, so that every generation has an equal opportunity. As strange as it sounds, it is all a marvelous plan NOT to actually hurt or kill anyone. It's all just an enactment in a universe created just for that purpose.
Test the whole idea if you want. Every claim or complaint can be explained...by what I just told you. I would be happy to elaborate on any individual points you would like to examine.
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No that's dumb... we have a book that is the foundation of Christianity and this book says god works in rape, fire and murder.
If you believe in a different god that is not based upon this book then ok... but this book clearly condones crimes against humanity which is why I told Job that anyone can arrive at not believing in it
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If science can be used to enlighten us on this big misunderstanding... then your position that we cannot perceive the reality of it is silly. You are trying provide evidence while arguing that we cannot know in the same hand
You are basically saying that you can establish anything you believe but that no one can establish anything you disagree with...
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The book is NOT about humanity....His story [history] is about humanity, and it is just a story, made up, "created" story...just like the book says.
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"The bible isn't about humanity, history is about humanity, its made up like the bible says"
This is incoherent and provides no meaning to our discussion.
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Look, incoherent fantasy babble makes some people feel special, but if you intend to discuss something then you really need to set that aside and be responsible for a moment and actually talk about something in a coherent manner and not just grope your feels. Okay?
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Using science to enlighten created fictitious characters in a make believe (make...believe...get it?) story, would be like using Donald Duck to check Mickey Mouse's pulse.If science can be used to enlighten us on this big misunderstanding... then your position that we cannot perceive the reality of it is silly. You are trying provide evidence while arguing that we cannot know in the same hand
You are basically saying that you can establish anything you believe but that no one can establish anything you disagree with...
Everything is either true or false. Test it. But don't expect that even devout theologians will know what I have revealed here. The crucified their own. That's just the way revelation is...and history.
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blah blah blah herka shmerka... if you aren't going to be coherent then just stop. I am not interested in what you can "reveal" to me... if you can't communicate responsibly then you can't reveal anything.
Using science is never like using Donald Duck... because science is real and Donald Duck isn't.
Your position that we cannot possibly perceive the truth of something contradicts your most recent claim that everythig is either true or false. You're using mystical fantasy babble.
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I submit you have a problem with miracles, don't you?
I'm surprised that not even an Internet scientist has spoken up and handled this one.DeanW said:
(Actually I'm not. I'm sure they were told to keep quiet.)
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haha.. well yes... I have a problem with talking animals and miracles that undermine the very principles and rules you claim that we must use against you.
Animals can have virgin births... but humans do not and this story says god caused it, not that science did.
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"Donkeys"?
And you had how much formal theology taught you?
May I ask where?
Was it Bockstop University?
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Any of you Internet scientists here want to correct this guy's thinking?
I mean ... I know he's on your side ... but for science's sake would someone like to say something?
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Parthenogentic reproduction is not what the bible describes and the research done on it the mid 1900's did not result in evidence that it's actually ever happened.
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