Why does the earth rotate?

[ananda]

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WHAT?!?

Then why did you post (#67)...
This was the link:
http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/08/200-proofs-earth-is-not-spinning-ball.html

Those "200 proofs" that you tried to use to support you theory were written by Eric Dubay! Why are you now saying you have no knowledge of his data? Did you not even bother to read his "200 proofs"? Did you just get the link from somewhere else and figure "this sounds good, I think I'll post a link to it, even though I don't know what it's really all about"?

You seem to misunderstand that I distinguish (multiple times, in this thread alone) between 1. direct personal knowledge of data and 2. faith in the second-hand data or interpretations given by others.

I do not have all of the direct personal knowledge of data provided by Eric Dubay or his proofs or those of "Bryan Chan", "Ranulph Fiennes", "NASA", etc.. However, based on the direct personal knowledge and experience I do have of the world around me, I have faith that much of Eric's second-hand interpretations given by him is likely accurate, and that the second-hand interpretations given by the spherical-earth conspirators are likely inaccurate.

 

[The Barbarian]

(railroad tracks shown)

Yes, and they converge on a small point likely a mile or two away (according to the eye's judgment)

That would make things rather difficult for trains, wouldn't it? As a person who put himself through college as a gandy during the summer months, I can tell you that the gauge remains constant over the entire line. They may appear to converge, but I assure you, they do not.

Your real name wouldn't be Riley Sinder, would it?

 

[Jimmy D]

Yes, but the actual rails do not converge there, do they? The train would fall off if they did.

If you could build a 93 million mile long parallel train track, it would look just the same.

So can we agree that the distance that your eye's judgment tells you where the rails meet is not very accurate? (Since they never meet at all.)

Checkmate!

 

[ananda]

Yes, but the actual rails do not converge there, do they? The train would fall off if they did.

If you could build a 93 million mile long parallel train track, it would look just the same.

So can we agree that the distance that your eye's judgment tells you where the rails meet is not very accurate? (Since they never meet at all.)

Your model and assumption is that the sun is a tiny dot 93 million miles away. The heliocentric model and assumption is that the sun is 870,000 miles in diameter, and it is painfully obvious that it is not merely a distant, tiny dot in the sky. The heliocentric sun's "train tracks" would not converge in the same way as your picture shows.

Are you saying that the sun violates basic trigonometry?

 

[ananda]

(railroad tracks shown)

That would make things rather difficult for trains, wouldn't it? As a person who put himself through college as a gandy during the summer months, I can assure you that the gauge remains constant over the entire line. They may appear to converge, but I assure you, they do not.

Your real name wouldn't be Riley Sinder, would it?

I have no idea who Riley Sinder is, and you can see my response regarding the Sun's diameter in my previous post.

 

[essentialsaltes]

The heliocentric sun's "train tracks" would not converge in the same way as your picture shows.

Yes, they would. Why wouldn't they? What's different about train track parallel lines and sunbeam parallel lines? Parallel lines are parallel lines.

You should take an art class in perspective.

 

[ananda]

Yes, they would. Why wouldn't they? What's different about train track parallel lines and sunbeam parallel lines? Parallel lines are parallel lines.

You should take an art class in perspective.

I have taken art classes in perspective. Have you?

Which model are you proposing as true?

 

[AV1611VET]

All I know is what my personal senses tell me, and they tell me that the spherical-earther conspirators are most likely wrong and suffering from mass delusions.

Your personal senses can be manipulated.

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

 

[essentialsaltes]

I have taken art classes in perspective. Have you?

Which model are you proposing as true?

Let's just focus on the parallel lines for a moment. If a mile or two of parallel tracks can converge into a point, how would making the parallel lines longer change their appearance? The most distant parts of the track have already converged to a point. If the tracks were 100 miles long or a 100 million miles long, it would look the same.

 

[essentialsaltes]

How many buildings line this street?

A dozen?
A hundred?
A million?

If the street had 100 million buildings along it, how would the view look different from a street with 100 buildings?

 

[AV1611VET]

If the street had 100 million buildings along it, how would the view look different from a street with 100 buildings?

Why is that girl sitting on the sidewalk with her legs out in the street?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Why is that girl sitting on the sidewalk with her legs out in the street?

She is tired from carrying her shopping bags down a street with 100 million shops.

 

[AV1611VET]

She is tired from carrying her shopping bags down a street with 100 million shops.

100 million shops and she only has two bags???

(Probably got mugged! )

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

Easy to prove no one can prove a same state past. Just try! Or watch when someone 4lse tries and fails, as they will inevitably do.

I think you have managed to prove no one can prove a same state past to your satisfaction. However, the rest of us don't worry about that and go ahead accepting that the laws of physics have been constant for millions and billions of years. You can't prove we are inconsistent to do that.

 

[ananda]

Your personal senses can be manipulated.

Yes, I believe that the senses and brain can be manipulated in various ways by others, but not the consciousness. The latter possesses the capability through volitional intention to critically analyze the information provided to it by the senses and brain.

 

[The Barbarian]

100 million shops and she only has two bags???

Either you don't have a girlfriend, or you've never been shopping with her.

 

[ananda]

Let's just focus on the parallel lines for a moment. If a mile or two of parallel tracks can converge into a point, how would making the parallel lines longer change their appearance? The most distant parts of the track have already converged to a point. If the tracks were 100 miles long or a 100 million miles long, it would look the same.

I'm not talking about the axis relative to the ground (lengthwise into the distance), but about the axis relative to the width of the sun.

 

[ananda]

How many buildings line this street?

A dozen?
A hundred?
A million?

If the street had 100 million buildings along it, how would the view look different from a street with 100 buildings?

Again, you're focusing on the length (into the distance). I am focusing mainly on the width.

A small building in the distance appears insignificant. A gigantic building (width) in the distance can cover the whole illustration.

 

[dad]

I think you have managed to prove no one can prove a same state past to your satisfaction. However, the rest of us don't worry about that and go ahead accepting that the laws of physics have been constant for millions and billions of years. You can't prove we are inconsistent to do that.

So your christian perspective on how the earth started spinning is (correct me if I am wrong here) that after a big bang sometime, an object collided with earth?

Let's see what meets your satisfaction!

 

[florida2]

Again, you're focusing on the length (into the distance). I am focusing mainly on the width.

A small building in the distance appears insignificant. A gigantic building (width) in the distance can cover the whole illustration.

To insert another problem with your idea - a 30 mile wide sun would not function - it simply would be nowhere near large enough for nuclear fusion to take place, yet we know it does every single second. Are nuclear physicists also part of this great conspiracy and faked their theories?

Also, what's on the other side of the Earth?

Is the moon flat? Are the other planets flat?