[PERMANENTLY CLOSED]"Pigs in a blanket" Black Lives Matter Chant During Police Escorted March

[Red Fox]

The "All Lives Matter" reaction reminds me of children who would complain because there was a Father's Day and a Mother's Day but no Childrens Day. Every day is Children's Day...

Well put, IMHO.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

BLM is the new WBC.

 

[HannahT]

The "All Lives Matter" reaction reminds me of children who would complain because there was a Father's Day and a Mother's Day but no Childrens Day. Every day is Children's Day...

(shrugs) lol I thought the same thing about the individuals that booed and hissed when some politician said it too.

 

[Sistrin]

The sheriff here in Houston, his life matters more than other's do. Didn't read the link in this post?

That link led to another in a long line of screeds issued by GOPLifer, whom you still seem to believe is the end-all and be-all of political commentary. However as is usually the case, Lifer shoots himself in the foot early and often.

Sentence two of the GOPLifer article reads, quote:

"We still know nothing about the killer’s motives, but spokesmen from the police and prosecutor’s office immediately leveraged the incident to criticize groups that have protested police violence."

There are only two types of people who as yet do not know the motive of the shooter, idiots and partisan hacks. The same is true of the shooter in Virginia. Goforth was selected as the target because he was a cop, and this constant refrain from the left of wringing their hands and proclaiming they can't find a motive is disingenuous at best if not borderline moronic.

From paragraph five of the GOPLifer article, quote:

"Those who suffer from Deputy Goforth’s death can expect one critical consolation that has eluded many black victims of police violence. They will have access to justice."

This is promoting the same narrative which, directly or indirectly, led to the death of Officer Goforth. It is the narrative which insist the entire Criminal Justice System has been intentionally constructed to unfairly punish black offenders. It is rubbish. The American left is zealous in its efforts to excuse and defend black offenders as victims as opposed to perpetrators, and always blames the system whenever a ruling is reached which does not fit their narrative. The Central Park Jogger case is a prime example, as is the case of convicted cop killer Mumia Abu-Jamal. Jamal was sentenced to death in 1995 but of course is still alive and well and hailed by the left as a wrongly imprisoned journalist. This notion that black offenders are railroaded through the system by white racist at all levels is ludicrous, and can only be supported by lies such as "hands up, don't shoot."

Or by crap such as this. From paragraph seven of Lifer's article:

"No one from the police union or the prosecutor’s office will smear Deputy Goforth or his family."

Why should they? This is such an incredibly lame attempt to equate the family of Officer Goforth with the family of Michael Brown. Recall that Brown's father jumped up on a car and started repeatedly screaming "Burn this expletive deleted down!"I looked for video of Goforth's father doing the same, but guess what Lifer fans, I didn't find any.

But the idiocy continues, quote:

"His killer will not be defended or praised by public officials."

Michael Brown was killed by a police officer in fear of his life and acting to protect that life. Goforth was executed by a black guy intentionally looking to target a cop. The difference is profound, but doesn't end there. Immediately following the death of Brown the liberal media fabricated a story that Brown was shot by a racist white cop who got up that morning and decided to go kill himself a black guy. That narrative has been proven again and again to be a lie, but it is still promoted to this day. However the truth is the only guy who got up and decided to go kill himself someone based solely on how he looked was the shooter of Officer Goforth. Go ahead, try and deny that.

I could go on, but the bottom line remains the same. GOPLifer is as much a Republican or a Conservative as Al Franken or Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz. He is a mole, a commentator who ranges from spouting disingenuous propaganda to outright lies in promoting the liberal agenda. You should really stop posting his work here, it does nothing to support whatever position we are supposed to guess you embrace.

And yes, before you ask, I posted a link on Lifer's page to this post.

 

[TerranceL]

BLM is the new WBC.

Looking like it.

WBC holds up signs celebrating the death of gays and non-gays alike and the BLM calls for the death of cops.

Black Lives Matter organizer Rashad Turner says there’s a big difference between rhetorical chanting and somebody’s actions.

“It definitely wasn’t a threat. I don’t know if they would have received it differently if we would have said on a stick. We’re there chanting, using our voices,” Turner said.

Sharp rhetoric from opposite sides that doesn’t appear to have stopped with a single march.

“To pick on one chant out of four hours of marching or protest, I don’t have any more comments for them,” Turner said.

Calling for the death of cops, "wasn't a threat".

At least he's bright enough to understand that chanting is done using the voice.

 

[HannahT]

Yes. Just like when you are with your family at the diner, the phrase, "We should all get to eat what we ordered" is the truth. However, if it's coming from your spouse after the kitchen gave you the wrong order (while everyone else got the right order) and you said, "I should get to eat what I ordered", it might come across as dismissive and mean. "What, does she think I don't think they should get what they ordered? They already got what they ordered; everyone else is doing just fine!" Fundamentally, this is the problem here:



It doesn't. It just doesn't. In a vacuum, with absolutely no cultural context, it's an equitable, reasonable statement. But we aren't in a vacuum, and given the context, it's what your hypothetical spouse said to you at your hypothetical restaurant: a dismissive response to a group of the populace saying, "Hang on, we're being treated unfairly", dismissing their claims as irrelevant and saying "we all should be treated fairly" as if their problems didn't matter.

The problem here is that everyone else already is being treated fairly, and nothing in #BlackLivesMatter devalues anyone else's life. What, do you think the people saying "Save the rainforest" mean "Save only the rainforest and slash and burn all the others"? No, they're drawing specific attention to a specific issue. Same deal with #BlackLivesMatter. Of course the people saying that understand that white lives matter too. EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT WHITE LIVES MATTER. Even the police. At the same time, it seems like people don't understand that black lives matter. Not in the same way, anyways.

I think part of it was the delivery, because they certainly didn't give the impression of what you speak of.

I know where I live MANY people of all backgrounds are extremely concerned about certain black neighborhoods, because of the violence. The gangs just plain took over those areas, and they terrorize those that live there. Majority of people have found ways of getting out, and majority of those were blacks also. Who could blame them? It's a war zone.

It's hard to get anything in there as far as stores or other things, because the insurance rates are sky high there. Why? The break-ins, vandalism, hold ups, muggings, etc. Once upon a time even the police didn't like going there, although that has changed. If you want a cab? Good luck! They won't come! Yet, those wimpy 'protest' organizers won't acknowledge that reality...it goes against their 'police brutality' theme. They don't want to deal with that - its easier to grab a microphone at a political rally.

The politicians in that city are worthless, and yet they are encouraged to keep voting them IN. I haven't seen hardly anything happen to help improve their lifes, and yet they certainly do have lip service to make you think they do. Children can't play outside, or use the neighborhood park...without a huge risk of getting shot! Yep, those gun control laws are do them so much good...no doubt they appreciate it (yes, sarcasm).

Those are the individuals people think of when these pantywaist 'protest' organizers claim no one feels black lifes matter, and need to be reminded of it. I mean please. They can't even be honest enough to say they are just plain to afraid to go in there, and help those poor souls. I mean what is easier? Yelling RACIST in cop's face, or making progress where lifes don't matter LITERALLY...and you could risk getting blown away? Hmm.

That's why it falls on deaf ears, because they don't help, don't organize, and won't acknowledge that those lifes DON'T matter in those neighborhoods...even though people have been having FITS for years and years over it. Yes, those poor, ignorant white souls have been pitching fits and helping fund things in those neighborhoods (along with black individuals and every other background). Yet, please give us the lectures again about how WE don't think THEY matter! Condemning everyone isn't helping anything, and yet that is all we hear.

Many think they need to get their priorities straight, and help the many MANY more people that could truly use their energy! Yet, they are to busy lecturing us about how we don't think black lifes matter...and need to be reminded. To me? It's disingenuous to say the least. I think their cowards in that aspect.

So, it seems there is a lack of understanding going both ways. Many feel they are devaluing those lifes, and feel they don't seem to matter to them. They sure do a good job running away from the subject from what I have seen in interviews.

 

[Skaloop]

I think part of it was the delivery, because they certainly didn't give the impression of what you speak of.

I know where I live MANY people of all backgrounds are extremely concerned about certain black neighborhoods, because of the violence. The gangs just plain took over those areas, and they terrorize those that live there. Majority of people have found ways of getting out, and majority of those were blacks also. Who could blame them? It's a war zone.

That's a gang problem, not a black person problem.

 

[Korah]

The good news is that the 300 people in that march were dwarfed by the 30,000 people at "All Lives Matter" in Birmingham.
'All Lives Matter' march draws more than 20,000 to Birmingham | AL.com

"It's about taking our church out in the streets," Beck said. He said marchers came from as far away as China, Dubai and the Netherlands.

Actor Chuck Norris, a conservative activist known for his martial arts, action movies and TV show "Walker, Texas Ranger," marched about two rows behind Beck. Alveda King, a niece of civil rights activist the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., marched in the front row. Bishop Jim Lowe, pastor of the predominantly black Guiding Light Church in Birmingham, co-organized the march with Beck and marched with him at the front. As a child, Lowe attended Sixteenth Street Baptist Church, where the march started, a headquarters church for the civil rights movement in Birmingham. Lowe and his sisters were in the church when a KKK bomb blew up the church and killed four little girls on Sept. 15, 1963.

"Love is the answer," Lowe said as he marched. "God is the answer."

Some Birmingham police officers said the crowd could have been as large as 25,000 to 30,000. It may have been the largest march in Birmingham since the civil rights marches of 1963.​

Hey, a new Civil Rights March in Alabama! It's about time after 50 years! This crowd was even bigger, helped along by having so many Whites now joining in advocating civil rights. Blacks are not the only good people!

 

[TerranceL]

Hey, a new Civil Rights March in Alabama! It's about time after 50 years! This crowd was even bigger, helped along by having so many Whites now joining in advocating civil rights. Blacks are not the only good people!

There were plenty of whites marching during the 50's too.

 

[Red Fox]

There were plenty of whites marching during the 50's too.

That's what I was about to say, from what I learned about the Civil Rights Movement of that time.

 

[katherine2001]

Either all lives matter or they don't. Or some matter more than others.

"All lives matter" treats everyone equally valueable. I don't know about the movement itself, but from a coalition building standpoint, it certainly is attractive to a larger segment of the population than just saying one particular group's lives matter.

Unfortunately, for at least some who champion "all lives matter" don't believe that black lives are as valuable as white lives. That is entirely clear when a fairly large segment don't believe that Blacks (and other minorities) should be treated the same as Whites.

 

[MehGuy]

All this talk of 'all lives matter' is a red herring. The 'black lives matters' movement is not saying that the other lives don't matter, it is about how the black community has been singled out and punished more than the others.

Yep.

I guess some white people can't handle the fact that they're not the center of attention for once. As far as black people joining the movement, I have no idea what the attraction is.

Not to say the All Lives Matter movement won't do any good.

 

[TerranceL]

That's what I was about to say, from what I learned about the Civil Rights Movement of that time.

Which is one of the dumber things that the BLM group has done taking over the mic twice when Sanders was speaking, the man marched with MLK. He's not the one you want to be silencing.

 

[TerranceL]

Unfortunately, for at least some who champion "all lives matter" don't believe that black lives are as valuable as white lives. That is entirely clear when a fairly large segment don't believe that Blacks (and other minorities) should be treated the same as Whites.

That's some hilarious reaching there, I don't know if you understand this but the "All" in "All lives matter" includes blacks.

 

[Sistrin]

Unfortunately, for at least some who champion "all lives matter" don't believe that black lives are as valuable as white lives.

Which means you would have to acknowledge the reverse is also true, that "at least some" in the BLM movement do not believe white lives are as valuable as black lives. How does that fit into your paradigm?

That is entirely clear when a fairly large segment don't believe that Blacks (and other minorities) should be treated the same as Whites.

The rule of law applies to all. If members of the American left want to call a cop killer a "wrongfully imprisoned journalist" or disingenuously wail about their inability to identify an obvious motive that is a reflection of the warped sensibilities of the American left, not the Criminal Justice system.

 

[Red Fox]

Unfortunately, for at least some who champion "all lives matter" don't believe that black lives are as valuable as white lives. That is entirely clear when a fairly large segment don't believe that Blacks (and other minorities) should be treated the same as Whites.

That's what I was trying to say in my earlier post here in this thread. I know from personal experience that it is true.

 

[HannahT]

That's a gang problem, not a black person problem.

I see. Gang Brutality isn't an issue for them. (eye rolls)

 

[Red Fox]

Which is one of the dumber things that the BLM group has done taking over the mic twice when Sanders was speaking, the man marched with MLK. He's not the one you want to be silencing.

I didn't agree with that at all. I thought the members of the movement who did that were wrong.

 

[stamperben]

That's a gang problem, not a black person problem.

And the gang problem is a drug problem. Legalize it or de-criminalize it. Then this "black on black" meme can die.

 

[TheBarrd]

No one is saying that black lives do not matter.
Except, perhaps, other black people. A black person who has been killed is much more likely to have been killed by another black person than by a white cop.
I'd be much more willing to sympathize with their BLM movement, if there wasn't so much black violence going on.
Honestly...have you ever thought what it might be like, being a white cop who had to deal with black violence? You might shoot first and ask questions later...if it were your life at risk.
Just sayin'