After protests over police violence, Missouri lawmakers push to protect officers

[SummerMadness]

After protests over police violence, Missouri lawmakers push to protect officers

For weeks last summer, hundreds of Kansas City protesters marched around the Plaza, knelt in the streets and chanted for police reform.

They joined a national groundswell of protest against police brutality, galvanized by the image of a Black man in Minneapolis dying with an officer's knee on his neck.

In the Missouri General Assembly, lawmakers have responded. One bill banning police chokeholds, waiting to be heard on the Senate floor, is described by activists as the most promising step forward on statewide police reform in years.

But, for the most part, lawmakers have reacted to Black Lives Matter protests by rallying to strengthen protections for police.

One measure would seal police disciplinary records from public view and add rules for internal investigations that St. Louis' police commissioner said would make it harder to punish officers for misconduct.

 

[Hammster]

Awesome. Glad to see my tax dollars being used properly, and my reps acting responsibly.

 

[SummerMadness]

Awesome. Glad to see my tax dollars being used properly, and my reps acting responsibly.

Do you believe that more laws are needed to shield records of police misconduct from the public? Has access to police disciplinary records been a widespread problem in the country?

 

[Hammster]

Do you believe that more laws are needed to shield records of police misconduct from the public? Has access to police disciplinary records been a widespread problem in the country?

The records will still be available if one has a need.

 

[SummerMadness]

The records will still be available if one has a need.

That was not my question, I asked if you believe that records needed to be shielded because of a pre-existing problem that this new legislation addresses?

 

[iluvatar5150]

Awesome. Glad to see my tax dollars being used properly, and my reps acting responsibly.

Why do so many conservatives, who otherwise distrust the government, seek to afford special protections to the agents of government who wear a badge?

More specifically, why do you cheer the creation of an officers bill of rights when those very protections have been used as cover for misbehavior in other jurisdictions where they've been enacted?

Feel free to answer for yourself or conservatives as a group.

 

[Hammster]

That was not my question, I asked if you believe that records needed to be shielded because of a pre-existing problem that this new legislation addresses?

It appears so, since there’s legislation.

 

[iluvatar5150]

It appears so, since there’s legislation.

By that logic, you must think the Equality Act is addressing a valid concern, too

 

[Hammster]

By that logic, you must think the Equality Act is addressing a valid concern, too

It is. Only, the concern in the Equality Act is because people hate God and His word. Protecting those whose job it is to reign in the evildoers is a good thing.

 

[iluvatar5150]

It is. Only, the concern in the Equality Act is because people hate God and His word.

Well that’s a convenient cop out. (no pun intended)

Protecting those whose job it is to reign in the evildoers is a good thing.

There are a lot of cops who do evil. Our experience in MD has been that these sort of laws do more to protect the cops who do evil. Do you reject that experience as being representative of what MO is proposing? Do you not care? Do you wish to protect evil-doing cops?

 

[Hammster]

Well that’s a convenient cop out. (no pun intended)



There are a lot of cops who do evil. Our experience in MD has been that these sort of laws do more to protect the cops who do evil. Do you reject that experience as being representative of what MO is proposing? Do you not care? Do you wish to protect evil-doing cops?

Do I hate puppies and Christmas?

 

[iluvatar5150]

Do I hate puppies and Christmas?

I have no idea, but I notice you haven’t answered my more substantive questions about these proposals.

 

[Hammster]

I have no idea, but I notice you haven’t answered my more substantive questions about these proposals.

Let me know when you ask one.

 

[LiberalChristian1980]

It is. Only, the concern in the Equality Act is because people hate God and His word. Protecting those whose job it is to reign in the evildoers is a good thing.

A cop who kills someone unnecessarily is human filth, complete evil. This law will protect them.

A cop who harms someone needlessly by using force when none was justified is human filth, completely evil. This law will protect them.

Why do you want to protect human filth in blue uniforms?

 

[keith99]

I think it is worth pointing out that the police commissioner who said it would make it harder to punish cops guilty of misconduct is A COP. That makes his comment a lot more damning.

John Hayden Jr. - Wikipedia

 

[Ana the Ist]

Do you believe that more laws are needed to shield records of police misconduct from the public? Has access to police disciplinary records been a widespread problem in the country?

If it's an issue that concerns BLM then yes...it's a problem that has caused billions in damage, and killed people, and ended businesses.

East St Louis has a higher homicide rate than El Salvador....which people are fleeing.

If you think police are the problem in St Louis your perspective is horribly skewed away from reality.

 

[Hammster]

A cop who kills someone unnecessarily is human filth, complete evil. This law will protect them.

No it won’t.