[PERMANENTLY CLOSED] A problem at the bottom of reason

[Chriliman]

Do you hear voices?

I don't hear audible voices. God gives me understanding that is undeniable.

 

[Davian]

I don't hear audible voices.

How do you 'listen' to him then?

God gives me understanding that is undeniable.

Yet it is inconsistent with what other Christian say. Why is that?

 

[Chriliman]

How do you 'listen' to him then?

Yet it is inconsistent with what other Christian say. Why is that?

No two Christians are at exactly the same point in their walk with Christ. We all learn from each other and teach each other, but ultimately the truth comes from God. If you see inconsistencies, it's because one Christian is learning something new and may be reluctant to admit they were wrong, but as soon as they do, God will strengthen their faith.

 

[madera23]

Interesting...I have a question for you. What if God desires to have you as a part of His reality? Are you going to put your desire to have God in your reality above God's desire to have you in His reality?

double talk.

 

[madera23]

How do you 'listen' to him then?

Yet it is inconsistent with what other Christian say. Why is that?

He listens to his thoughts and entities speak to him without his knowledge.
Its pretty sad, he's a pretty nice guy otherwise.
He has a religious spirit in him. he is your typical so called Christian.
Madera

 

[madera23]

I don't hear audible voices. God gives me understanding that is undeniable.

No Chriliman your understanding is coming from what you read Not from the Holy Spirit. Nothing new, same old, same old.
madera

 

[Chriliman]

No Chriliman your understanding is coming from what you read Not from the Holy Spirit. Nothing new, same old, same old.
madera

I thought we made peace? We agreed that I would continue listening to God and so would you, can we agree to this?

 

[Davian]

No two Christians are at exactly the same point in their walk with Christ. We all learn from each other and teach each other, but ultimately the truth comes from God. If you see inconsistencies, it's because one Christian is learning something new and may be reluctant to admit they were wrong, but as soon as they do, God will strengthen their faith.

So it just looks like you are making it up as you go along.

 

[madera23]

No two Christians are at exactly the same point in their walk with Christ. We all learn from each other and teach each other, but ultimately the truth comes from God. If you see inconsistencies, it's because one Christian is learning something new and may be reluctant to admit they were wrong, but as soon as they do, God will strengthen their faith.

Who is them? I notice it is always them and not you.
If anyone is learning from another they are on the wrong path.
Perhaps you are the wrong one?
Your faith comes from words, not God.
I wish I could get you to understand that the religious path is not God's path.

 

[madera23]

So it just looks like you are making it up as you go along.

Exactly.

 

[Chriliman]

So it just looks like you are making it up as you go along.

I can see why it would appear I'm just making it up, when you do not have access to the Truth. However, you can choose to access the truth at any time by humbly asking Jesus into your life. This will always be the main message of Christianity

 

[Chriliman]

Who is them? I notice it is always them and not you.
If anyone is learning from another they are on the wrong path.
Perhaps you are the wrong one?
Your faith comes from words, not God.
I wish I could get you to understand that the religious path is not God's path.

My only concern here is that you treat everyone who claims to be Christian as if they are not Christian and even if they honestly try to show you they are Christian you still deny that they are Christian. I just don't think this is how Christians should act towards each other.

I've tried many times to make amends with you, but you just wont accept it for some reason. It seems the only way you'll accept it is if I say I'm not a true Christian (which I'll never do as I'm sure you'll never do), which I honestly can't imagine any Christian actually wanting another Christian to admit they are not Christian, it goes against what Christians should stand for, which is unity in the body of Christ. If a Christian wants to be identified as a Christian and they know they must accept Jesus into their lives, then let them be and don't pester them, but rather show them the true love and compassion of Christ. I wouldn't think this would be difficult for a Christian to understand.

Can we agree to disagree, at least?

 

[Davian]

I can see why it would appear I'm just making it up, when you do not have access to the Truth.

I do not accept your religious opinion as truth.

However, you can choose to access the truth at any time by humbly asking Jesus into your life. This will always be the main message of Christianity

Do you write letters to Santa?

 

[Davian]

Exactly.

Perhaps. Then again, a tire that looks flat may be just flat.

(bracing myself for the "it's only flat on the bottom" counter-argument")

 

[madera23]

I thought we made peace? We agreed that I would continue listening to God and so would you, can we agree to this?

I don't know about you, but, I am at peace. How easily you get disturbed.
What on earth did we agree to?
How can anyone stop you from listening to what ever you are listening to?
You sound like a child.
I am trying to help you, not hurt you.
Yu need to stop reading your bible and you will see you can't do that because it has you addicted.
God does not addict, God frees.
madera

 

[Chriliman]

I don't know about you, but, I am at peace. How easily you get disturbed.
What on earth did we agree to?
How can anyone stop you from listening to what ever you are listening to?
You sound like a child.
I am trying to help you, not hurt you.
Yu need to stop reading your bible and you will see you can't do that because it has you addicted.
God does not addict, God frees.
madera

I agree, God does free, amen to that! However, I should be free to read my Bible as I feel lead by the Holy Spirit, wouldn't you agree? If you don't feel lead by the Holy Spirit to read your Bible, thats fine.

 

[madera23]

I agree, God does free, amen to that! However, I should be free to read my Bible as I feel lead by the Holy Spirit, wouldn't you agree? If you don't feel lead by the Holy Spirit to read your Bible, thats fine.[/QUOTE


My only concern here is that you treat everyone who claims to be Christian as if they are not Christian and even if they honestly try to show you they are Christian you still deny that they are Christian. I just don't think this is how Christians should act towards each other.

Would lying to one another make us better Christians?

 

[Chriliman]

Would lying to one another make us better Christians?

Nope, definitely not.

 

[madera23]

Nope, definitely not.

Hi Kriliman,
I am going to stop this conversation.
I don't want to hurt you and I won't lie.
So have a good life.
Madera

 

[paulm50]

I wouldn't rely on priests for ultimate truth, after all they are only man. I would always rely on God for ultimate truth.

My approach to. Which is why I reject some of the bible. I was written by men and some is disproven, some in opposition to the way we and the world is made, and some clearly the wishes of men over the rest of the community. Especially women.

Thanks Madera, I'll listen to God from now on

That's the best way. Just be sure it's not your imagination influences by reading words of men.