When did evolution begin?

[Loudmouth]

You say that with such authority. You must know all.

We have the transcripts.

http://www.youngearth.org/index.php...m/21-transcript-of-ken-ham-vs-bill-nye-debate

It isn't hard to show that the opening post misunderstood what Nye was saying.

 

[Loudmouth]

They are the works of the sons of God, prehistoric people who were the most advanced people Nature could produce. When I think of them, I picture an American Indian who lived in harmony with the Earth. But something was terribly wrong. Darkness/Death kept destroying them and after millions of years, their numbers were only around a million.

Suddenly, the Ark arrived and brought Humans (Adam's descendants) to the area of the Cradle of Human Civilization on this Planet, exactly where God told us they arrived. Human civilization on this Earth can be traced to the arrival of Noah in the mountains of Ararat and HISTORY agrees. http://www.fsmitha.com/h1/map00-fc.html

Noah's grandsons married and produced children with the prehistoric people who were already here when Noah arrived some 10k years ago. The rest is History since Humans (descendants of Adam) were made with an intelligence like God's Gen 3:22 and NO other creature was made this way. Today, there are some 7 Billion Humans (descendants of Adam) on our Planet. See the difference?

Evidence for any of this?

 

[Ben West]

That isn't evidence. You don't understand evidence

Then post some evidence of the magical abilities of mindless evolution to produce Human intelligence in prehistoric people. I promise not to laugh. Amen?

 

[Loudmouth]

Then post some evidence of the magical abilities of mindless evolution to produce Human intelligence in prehistoric people. I promise not to laugh. Amen?

Before we move on, are you admitting that you have no evidence?

 

[OliviaMay]

Then post some evidence of the magical abilities of mindless evolution to produce Human intelligence in prehistoric people. I promise not to laugh. Amen?

Evolution isn't magic. Since you don't comprehend the difference between observable reality and magic no much point in conversation honestly.

 

[Ben West]

Evidence for any of this?

I've already posted the historic evidence which YOU nor any other scientist has been able to refute. All I've seen so far is disagreement with history and solid evidence which can be studied and it destroys your false ideas of How and When we became Human. Amen?

 

[Loudmouth]

I've already posted the historic evidence which YOU nor any other scientist has been able to refute.

There is nothing to refute since you produced no evidence that Noah or Adam founded those civilizations.

 

[Ben West]

Evolution isn't magic. Since you don't comprehend the difference between observable reality and magic no much point in conversation honestly. Do you like cartoons?

No. I like the Truth which doesn't require magic the way Godless Evolution does. Tell us again the process which skips the inheritance of superior intelligence from beings with a superior intelligence. It CANNOT be Apes. Amen?

BTW, Please don't try to convince me that Humans evolved from the common ancestor of Apes since that is the biggest Satanic Lie ever told. Amen?

 

[OliviaMay]

No. I like the Truth which doesn't require magic the way Godless Evolution does. Tell us again the process which skips the inheritance of superior intelligence from beings with a superior intelligence. It CANNOT be Apes. Amen?

BTW, Please don't try to convince me that Humans evolved from the common ancestor of Apes since that is the biggest Satanic Lie ever told. Amen?

I find that cold ice packs help migraines. Amen?

 

[Ben West]

There is nothing to refute since you produced no evidence that Noah or Adam founded those civilizations.

Noah's great grandson was the builder of Babel, the FIRST Human city on this Earth. He was the son of Cush and a prehistoric woman and the FIRST generation of Humans (descendants of Adam) on this Planet. Gen 10:10 This is evidence that long periods of time and magical positive mutations does NOT produce the superior intelligence we find in Humans compared to ANY other creature. It happens when the sons of God (prehistoric people) and Adam's descendants marry and have children exactly as Gen 6:4 explains. Human intelligence MUST be inherited from another Human. That's the scientific Truth. Amen?

 

[Ben West]

Before we move on, are you admitting that you have no evidence?

No, since all of the evidence discovered by Science and History agrees with God's Holy Word IF you have the proper interpretation. Don't believe me? Just ask a specific question I show you the agreement. The one thing I cannot show this agreement with is the False ToE because it's a lie. Amen?

 

[Subduction Zone]

No. I like the Truth which doesn't require magic the way Godless Evolution does. Tell us again the process which skips the inheritance of superior intelligence from beings with a superior intelligence. It CANNOT be Apes. Amen?

BTW, Please don't try to convince me that Humans evolved from the common ancestor of Apes since that is the biggest Satanic Lie ever told. Amen?

You are projecting. You believe in magic. Evolution works just well with well known physical laws.

By the way, how do you explain the total lack of the extreme population bottlenecks that should exist for your beliefs?

 

[Loudmouth]

No, since all of the evidence discovered by Science and History agrees with God's Holy Word IF you have the proper interpretation.

Where is the scientific evidence that Adam and Noah did what you claim they did?

 

[Loudmouth]

Noah's great grandson was the builder of Babel, the FIRST Human city on this Earth. He was the son of Cush and a prehistoric woman and the FIRST generation of Humans (descendants of Adam) on this Planet.

WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE FOR THESE CLAIMS????

 

[Subduction Zone]

No, since all of the evidence discovered by Science and History agrees with God's Holy Word IF you have the proper interpretation. Don't believe me? Just ask a specific question I show you the agreement. The one thing I cannot show this agreement with is the False ToE because it's a lie. Amen?

You do not seem to understand the concept of evidence. There are mountains of scientific evidence that support the theory of evolution, there is none that supports creationism. I can help you to understand the concept of scientific evidence. It is a type of evidence that tries to get rid of personal bias.

 

[Oncedeceived]

You do not seem to understand the concept of evidence. There are mountains of scientific evidence that support the theory of evolution, there is none that supports creationism. I can help you to understand the concept of scientific evidence. It is a type of evidence that tries to get rid of personal bias.

Mountains of evidence for evolution but seriously lacking evidence from evolution for many of the claims that are made about it.

There is evidence that supports creationism.

Personal bias is rampant in all areas of human endeavors and science is not immune.

 

[Loudmouth]

Mountains of evidence for evolution but seriously lacking evidence from evolution for many of the claims that are made about it.

Such as?

There is evidence that supports creationism.

Such as?

Personal bias is rampant in all areas of human endeavors and science is not immune.

The only thing that is rampant is empty assertions being made by you.

 

[Bvangelical]

Nye's observations support the biblical account that those fossils were created when nearly all life perished during the Flood. There is zero evidence for evolution as being discussed here.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Well.....this is a Christian forum

Alright, in that case Scripture says "Pray without ceasing." and that's why the internet doesn't exist.

"Animal" is simply a term to denigrate mankind.

I'm not denigrating mankind by saying we're animals. I don't find the idea of being an animal offensive or shameful, just true. If truth offends you then that sounds like a personal problem that you need to work on in your free time.

Made in God's image makes us very different from the other of God's creation.

But it doesn't make us non-animals.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[paulm50]

Bill Nye "The Science Guy" assures us that the particular fossils found in the successive layers of sediments, wherever they are found around the earth, do not appear in the previous or later sediment layers. If this is true none of those particular life forms, unique only to those sediment layers, evolved at all, but were destroyed when that period ended.

So, if evolution did occur to those species it must have occurred during the very brief period between those time frames, for which there is no fossil evidence. And the change would have been quite drastic.

Or, if evolution did occur during the forming of those layers the evolved species within all perished when that period abruptly ended, thus interrupting the whole evolutionary process.

So, if everything perished in the previous layer, what was left to evolve in succeeding layers?

The animals not removed because of the Earth's changes.

Sometimes the changes were very fast, sometimes slow. A species ability to cope or adapt or not, decided it's future, or lack of it.