If I'm an Atheist and I am not a bad person, will I go to hell?

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I deny Jesus as a savior of mankind, but I do think historically speaking, he was a real person. I find it extremely unlikely there is a God of any kind, even more unlikely a god that actually "loves" his creation and for some reason cares so much if people love him back. And to make it clear too, I don't believe in the devil either. I'm an honest and caring person, I've never done an "evil" thing my entire life. With that all said, would I go to hell?
 
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Well it depends on which party you talk to.

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I'm sensing a Wryetui appearance and I don't know why.

"Hell" is a very well worn concept though and I truly don't believe in something so vividly described by many but never seen by one.
 
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I deny Jesus as a savior of mankind, but I do think historically speaking, he was a real person. I find it extremely unlikely there is a God of any kind, even more unlikely a god that actually "loves" his creation and for some reason cares so much if people love him back. And to make it clear too, I don't believe in the devil either. I'm an honest and caring person, I've never done an "evil" thing my entire life. With that all said, would I go to hell?
Sorry buddy, but you're headed for the fiery pit. You were created with doubts, and those doubts ensure you'll suffer for eternity. God created you to go to hell, which btw he lovingly created for you. See you down there.
 
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I deny Jesus as a savior of mankind, but I do think historically speaking, he was a real person. I find it extremely unlikely there is a God of any kind, even more unlikely a god that actually "loves" his creation and for some reason cares so much if people love him back. And to make it clear too, I don't believe in the devil either. I'm an honest and caring person, I've never done an "evil" thing my entire life. With that all said, would I go to hell?

Welcome to CF.

According to many (perhaps most) Christians, you are destined for Hell. You must be Saved, and "works" aren't enough.


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Maybe youll be sent to an atheist heaven where they dont believe in miracles, but in eternal first person computerised faith simulators.

It won't be heaven without D&D simulators. Just saying.


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I deny Jesus as a savior of mankind, but I do think historically speaking, he was a real person. I find it extremely unlikely there is a God of any kind, even more unlikely a god that actually "loves" his creation and for some reason cares so much if people love him back. And to make it clear too, I don't believe in the devil either. I'm an honest and caring person, I've never done an "evil" thing my entire life. With that all said, would I go to hell?

If you've never done an evil thing in your whole life, you're the first (other than for Jesus whose divine nature explains that).

But if you have never done anything wrong in your whole life and this continues until death, there is a chance that you'd be saved regardless of a lack of Faith in Christ. Christianity would admit that. But of course, this won't happen.
 
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I deny Jesus as a savior of mankind, but I do think historically speaking, he was a real person. I find it extremely unlikely there is a God of any kind, even more unlikely a god that actually "loves" his creation and for some reason cares so much if people love him back. And to make it clear too, I don't believe in the devil either. I'm an honest and caring person, I've never done an "evil" thing my entire life. With that all said, would I go to hell?

I would tend to agree in general with your statement.

With that said, it will depend on who you talk to on what they claim would happen to you. I would think, most Christians would say you were going to hell, because you have not accepted Jesus as your savior and that is required for eternal life. You will come across some Christians, who will say a loving God would not do that and you will have the opportunity for eternal life, but these are the minority, IMO.

At the end of the day, what is the benefit of being Christian, if those who don't agree with your beliefs, get the same benefits as you when you die? For this reason, most need to state non believers and those of other religions, are doomed.
 
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If you've never done an evil thing in your whole life, you're the first (other than for Jesus whose divine nature explains that).

But if you have never done anything wrong in your whole life and this continues until death, there is a chance that you'd be saved regardless of a lack of Faith in Christ. Christianity would admit that. But of course, this won't happen.
This seems unnecessarily defeatist. Perhaps he has not even so much as coveted his neighbour's ass.
 
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At the end of the day, what is the benefit of being Christian, if those who don't agree with your beliefs, get the same benefits as you when you die? For this reason, most need to state non believers and those of other religions, are doomed.
I don't think Christianity would exist today if perks had been made available to non members

Looks like I am doomed!
Me too. But God would understand if he had met her
 
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This seems unnecessarily defeatist. Perhaps he has not even so much as coveted his neighbour's ass.

Defeatist? Not in the least. But it's certainly a mistake, if not self-deception, to think that anyone has never done anything wrong. To be sure, he used the word "evil," by which I think he meant what a lot of people mean. That is to say, that they haven't murdered, cheated, stolen, etc. The really big "wrongs." However, that isn't the whole of the issue. Telling lies, thinking ill of someone, gossiping, failing to help someone in need because of not wanting to inconvenience yourself, and much more in this vein are also wrongs or sins that represent a falling short of what God expects--and this is all clearly outlined in Scripture, too. It's not just the strict letter of the law as outlined in the Ten Commandments that form Jesus' system of morals.
 
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Well it depends on which party you talk to.

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I'm sensing a Wryetui appearance and I don't know why.

"Hell" is a very well worn concept though and I truly don't believe in something so vividly described by many but never seen by one.
I see what you did there.

Well, it depends on what you understand by Hell. If you think Hell is a place where you will burn forever because God sent you there as a punishment for not believing in Him stop thinking it, because that is a deformed idea of what Hell is, constructed by the ignorance of some people and sadly widely spread everywhere. Hell means to be out of communion with God, you see, God created man to live in communion with Him, but man fell from that communion because of the original sin, and kept falling over the centuries with more sins, then, God, seeing that we couldn't be in communion again with Him without His help, God sent His only Son to the earth so He could help us, when He incarnated, the divine nature of Christ and the human nature that inherited from His mother Mary united, and so we united too, our human nature healed through Christ, and Christ, when He died, death couldn't contain Him because He was God, so He broke forever the gates of Hades and the power death had in us humans and gave us the opportunity that, us uniting to Him, could heal the same way and return into that communion through Christ, and this time, the communion will be perfect, because in the beginning, Adam and Eve did not have perfect communion because they were not challenged, they needed to be tested and so all the humanity with them, so we could wish God's love and communion with Him, if not, we would have had just a robotic experience with our Creator. Will you go to Hell? No one can answer that to you, certainly only God judges, but, in order to return into communion with God you need to unite to Christ, to cleanse of sin and to heal of His effects, that's essential.
 
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Defeatist? Not in the least. But it's certainly a mistake, if not self-deception, to think that anyone has never done anything wrong. To be sure, he used the word "evil," by which I think he meant what a lot of people mean. That is to say, that they haven't murdered, cheated, stolen, etc. The really big "wrongs." However, that isn't the whole of the issue. Telling lies, thinking ill of someone, gossiping, failing to help someone in need because of not wanting to inconvenience yourself, and much more in this vein are also wrongs or sins that represent a falling short of what God expects--and this is all clearly outlined in Scripture, too. It's not just the strict letter of the law as outlined in the Ten Commandments that form Jesus' system of morals.
My bolding.

You believe God expects a perfection that no man has ever achieved. God created us to fail. To fall short of his expectations. Born sick and ordered to be well. And then he demands we beg for forgiveness?

This whole idea is so deeply horrible, as well as totally illogical. It mystifies me how anyone can actually believe it
 
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My bolding.

You believe God expects a perfection that no man has ever achieved.
I believe that God, being the epitome of goodness, has standards. Some theology-minded people would say that he, as perfection, cannot co-exist in eternity with sin. So, it's not as though God anticipates perfection from us--and is disappointed when he doesn't get it. It's more a matter of goodness and wrong themselves. If any of us was indeed sinless, then (to follow up the comment made earlier) we'd deserve heaven on our own merits.
 
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I believe that God, being the epitome of goodness, has standards. Some theology-minded people would say that he, as perfection, cannot co-exist in eternity with sin. So, it's not as though God anticipates perfection from us--and is disappointed when he doesn't get it. It's more a matter of goodness and wrong themselves. If any of us was indeed sinless, then (to follow up the comment made earlier) we'd deserve heaven on our own merits.
Why create beings that, by their nature, will never satisfy your standards, only to punish them for constantly falling short of standards they could never hope to achieve?
 
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Why create beings that, by their nature, will never satisfy your standards, only to punish them for constantly falling short of standards they could never hope to achieve?

But the main theme of the Bible is that God has determined to save Men, not discard or punish them, and this strictly out of his own goodness and not at all because of their own merits.
 
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But the main theme of the Bible is that God has determined to save Men, strictly out of his own goodness and not at all because of their own merits.
He may be determined to save men but he does it in such a way that excludes billions for not having the right opinion on the origins of the universe.
 
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