The EU, the kingdom partly strong, partly broken

[Straightshot]

"Please drop out of this thread and go there and make all the arguments you want"


I will stay with this tread if I chose and have more comments on the subject matter

 

[Douggg]

"Please drop out of this thread and go there and make all the arguments you want"


I will stay with this tread if I chose and have more comments on the subject matter

Then please stick to the subject matter of this thread regarding the EU, a kingdom party strong partly broken. These are the verses referenced.

Daniel 2:41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.

42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. [a perfect description of the EU]

43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another [In the EU are different cultures which Nigel Farage says cannot mix as one people], even as iron is not mixed with clay.

 

[Straightshot]

Well I don't think so and have stated it with position from a biblical perspective

And this is definitely related to the very subject matter and the EU is not on the Image chart

All of the 5 represented are Middle Eastern kingdoms including neo-Babylon forward:

 

[Douggg]

Well I don't think so and have stated it with position from a biblical perspective

And this is definitely related to the very subject matter and the EU is not on the Image chart

All of the 5 represented are Middle Eastern kingdoms including neo-Babylon forward:

The Roman Empire was the power occupying the land of Israel at the time of Jesus. It is all through the New Testament. It followed the Greeks occupying the land of Israel. That's in all the history books, plus the bible.

Rome is located in Italy, which is in the EU, not in the middle east. The EU is a superstate power which has the military to carry out the beast's agenda.

Personally, I don't even know why you are making such a blatantly erroneous argument.

The EU is the kingdom partly strong, partly broken, a continuation of the iron legs of the Roman Empire occupiers of the land at the time of Jesus, following the Greeks, and the EU will be the kingdom of the ten kings in power when Jesus returns.

 

[Brian45]

But the bible is not making a point of it. If the bible makes a point of 5+5 then we should take it into account. What the bible makes a point of is ten, not divided in two fives.

Ten horns upon the beast in Revelation. And ten horns upon the beast in Daniel 7. Nothing in there about 5 + 5.

Daniel 2 - Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay. As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle. And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.

Douggg I don't think that either of us can prove absolutely that the above scripture is not referring to the 5+5 toes , but given that there are two legs two feet with 5+5 toes I would say that the odds were on my side.

 

[Straightshot]

"Personally, I don't even know why you are making such a blatantly erroneous argument"


Yes you do, you just do not believe the same

.... and I think you are wrong

 

[Douggg]

Daniel 2 - Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay. As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle. And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.

Douggg I don't think that either of us can prove absolutely that the above scripture is not referring to the 5+5 toes , but given that there are two legs two feet with 5+5 toes I would say that the odds were on my side.

I am just saying that in the text of the bible, nowhere does it make that distinction of the ten kings broken into separate groups of 5 each, which can be proven if you want to start at the front of the bible and read through to the end.

It is always one kingdom of ten kings. It would also be helpful if you used the KJV instead of the NIV.

 

[Douggg]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugX8NDYkqC0

Nigel Farage: United States of Europe insane politics



The EU, a kingdom partly strong, partly broken (Daniel 2).

Nigel Farage is fighting a losing battle as bible prophecy indicates that ultimately there will be a ten king (form) of the EU which the little horn will emerge out of.

The little horn removes three of the ten kings, which if Mr. Farage became one of those ten kings - he would likely be one of those removed.

 

[Riberra]

Doug, here something to complete your research about the Little horn and more...you will tanks me later !

Prophecies of Daniel 2 & 7

The Little Horn of Daniel 7 - Bible Prophecy

The Bible Prophecies of Daniel 2 & 7

 

[Douggg]

Doug, here something to complete your research about the Little horn and more...you will tanks me later !

Prophecies of Daniel 2 & 7

The Little Horn of Daniel 7 - Bible Prophecy

The Bible Prophecies of Daniel 2 & 7

Thanks for not diverting my thread. If you want to discuss the contents and concepts at those links, then please open a new thread, and I will be happy to participate.

 

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[5thKingdom]

But the bible is not making a point of it. If the bible makes a point of 5+5 then we should take it into account. What the bible makes a point of is ten, not divided in two fives.

Ten horns upon the beast in Revelation. And ten horns upon the beast in Daniel 7. Nothing in there about 5 + 5.

But Dougg already knows what he said (above) is not Biblical.


When Dougg talks about the TEN HORNS of Daniel 7...
he is talking about PEOPLE living in the LAST KINGDOM on earth before the Lord Returns.


And when Dougg talks about the TEN TOES of Daniel 2...
he is talking about PEOPLE living in the LAST KINGDOM on earth before the Lord Returns.


And when Dougg talks about the [B]TEN KINGS [/B]of Revelations 17...
he is talking about PEOPLE living in the LAST KINGDOM on earth before the Lord Returns.


And when Douggg talks about the TEN VIRGINS of Matthew 25...
he is talking about PEOPLE living in the LAST KINGDOM on earth before the Lord Returns.


Therefore...


The TEN HORNS = the same people as the TEN TOES... and
the TEN TOES = the same people as TEN KINGS... and
the TEN KINGS = the same people as the TEN VIRGINS


Poor Douggg does not want to accept this Biblical FACT....
because it immediately destroys his pretense about the European Union.


Douggg pretends he can intentionally ignore the HARMONY OF SCRIPTURE
because God did not provide a verse that says "Douggg, please be aware that:
Ten Horns = Ten Toes = Ten Kings = Ten Virgins"


However... regardless of how hard Douggg pretends, he still cannot even begin
to show how these PEOPLE are NOT the same people in the LAST KINGDOM
before the Lord's Return.


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Now... to the question of 5 = 5....
Read Matthew 25.... these PEOPLE living in the LAST KINGDOM before His Return
are Ten HORNS/TOES/KINGS/VIRGINS.... but they are SEPARATED into TWO GROUPS of 5....
there are 5 Wise Virgins (saved/wheat) and there are 5 Foolish Virgins (unsaved/tares)


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Douggg has an agenda.
He NEEDS to prove the EU = TEN HORNS
Therefore, he intentionally ignores passages showing WHO these people are...
because the Biblical FACT that Ten Horns = Ten Toes = Ten Kings = Ten Virgins
does not harmonize with Dougggs pretending - so he rejects Biblical FACT.


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If Douggg REALLY wanted to find TRUTH
He would START with the BIBLICAL FACT that these are the SAME PEOPLE....
But Douggg will continue to intentionally ignore this fact.


But maybe I am wrong...


Douggg.... since you want to pretend that TEN HORNS doe NOT represent the SAME PEOPLE
as TEN TOES or the SAME PEOPLE as the TEN KINGS and the TEN VIRGINS.....


Maybe you could explain WHO each group represents - and WHY they are not the SAME PEOPLE...
Can you do that Douggg?


Can you explain WHO is represented by the TOES and the KINGS and the VIRGINS..... and,
can you explain WHY these KINGDOMS are not inhabited by the SAME PEOPLE?


Because... if you cannot harmonize your pretense with the WHOLE BIBLE...
then your pretense is already PROVEN to be un-Biblical and just a fantasy.

Go ahead Douggg.... show us how you can HARMONIZE these passages.

 

[Straightshot]

My comment

7 kingdoms [heads] over time

10 contemporary kings ruling together in conjunction with the final 7th still pending

Satan's beast in the little horn of Daniel's visions [the 11th king] is the one who rises up among the other 10 kings and confederates the same at the time of the end

This is a Middle Eastern setting out in front of us still pending

 

[Douggg]

The EU, superpower, partly strong partly broken

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8xAXJx9WJ8

 

[Douggg]

When Dougg talks about the TEN HORNS of Daniel 7...
he is talking about PEOPLE living in the LAST KINGDOM on earth before the Lord Returns.

If you continue this route, I am going to have to report it to the moderators.

NO, it is You ,not me, talking about the ten horns being the "last kingdom". The ten horns are ten kings of the end times fourth kingdom.


I am not going to address every LIE you made in your last post about me. Speak for yourself, and don't LIE that it is me saying your position.

And stop preaching to me about finding truth. Stop personalizing the topics. And stick to the topic of this thread, which is the EU, partly strong, party broken.

Stop trying to highjack this thread. Open your own thread.