Thoughts ...

[Noxot]

it is almost sin to exist in this world or to speak of God.

 

[x141]

Images create a process in us that brings about the consensus of the whole.

 

[Noxot]

Images create a process in us that brings about the consensus of the whole.

sometimes it feels like some of the "lost ones" are so much wiser and know what they are doing. a lot of the music i listen to is highly spiritual though they themselves might not realize it. they will eventually.

but it is more than that, it is very personal and it is amazing. it's like reality shapes itself for me. right in front of all of us is the incorporeal reality that the atheist constantly says does not exist. so many atheist are JUST LIKE some christians are.

I might have to start hanging out here more again, I have not been around here much in a while. at least Christians can relate with me about God. but many christians and atheist are trapped in the same hurdle to overcome - understanding via the first adam alone.

seemingly repeating myself forever even though I don't want to. everyone wants the same thing, but what do they want? I would say that even really evil people are only repeating externally what we often do to ourselves internally. so I see it as a cry of the spirits death that the world goes through.

even truth must be crucified for the sake of following him but we all fear the unknown. the unknown must not always be the unknown, may we who seek God be receptive enough to receive the things he desires to give to us.

in a reality where God is not I already know what I must do - I must destroy myself immediately. in a reality where God is - I could never do enough.

youtube.com/watch?v=zWpdQrDLpU0

 

[x141]

The soul because of it's business is slow to pick up what the spirit has all along known. I never get tiered of the revelatory words people speak even when they have no conception as to what it was they have said.

 

[Noxot]

The soul because of it's business is slow to pick up what the spirit has all along known. I never get tiered of the revelatory words people speak even when they have no conception as to what it was they have said.

hah, try talking to atheist on youtube. they are hellbent in believing only what science and human logic can teach them. I enjoy listening to an atheist philosopher on youtube and I can agree with him on many things. honestly if I remained a mere religious christian i would have forsaken Christianity for atheism by now. or I would have blown my brains out to end the outer vanity, cause it's really not worth existing for, not without God.

here is something he said today.

youtube.com/watch?v=L3S7Vi7YcrE

 

[x141]

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow what is laid before him.” Missao Tolstoy

… which leaves both the slow witted man and most intelligent man a victim of the same truth.

 

[Noxot]

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow what is laid before him.” Missao Tolstoy

… which leaves both the slow witted man and most intelligent man a victim of the same truth.

I just want to know one thing forever and ever

my dimness and brightness are for the same purpose

" a long time ago we discovered that nothing could stop us! this hasn't torn us apart so nothing ever will!" ~slipknot - 'goodbye'

 

[x141]

If that were not true ... the tree of knowledge would have had only a single fruit, and the parable of two sons, would have been a parable of only one son.

 

[Noxot]

If that were not true ... the tree of knowledge would have had only a single fruit, and the parable of two sons, would have been a parable of only one son.

"I am one, I am all, i'm above and beyond" slipknot - 'liberate'

those words speak the truth so plainly. time to go to sleep and play in a different ( yet the same ) reality for a bit. later.

 

[x141]

When God reveals his son in us, he reveals him as us.

 

[x141]

Those who understand the cross as it relates to soul find the point mute to pick it up.

 

[x141]

(For what it’s worth) For the last two days we have been caught between two opinions (concerning self), which equates to the wilderness as it does to the holy place of Moses’ tabernacle, which in picture Solomon’s was the collective yet failed attempt of man to build God a house which became rejected, as much as this was a picture of Jesus from the place of a truth cast down, and the consecutive pictures of this same truth that flow out of the first garden culminating in everything before Christ appeared. I will not belabor assembling the book to show all the truths that, though hid in plain sight becomes obscured by the details.

Perception (3) comes in many forms and is plagued by duality, not only in scripture but in the one who beholds the truth as something that is separate from self. Jesus’ disciples, turned Apostles (who themselves were pictures of truths that relate to the process in us as it was in them (along with a 13th) were waiting for the day that we have now arrived in the beginning of. In the most holy place all labor ceases (in relationship to thought), which what is without the city that is unable to enter in is one of the many pictures of.

 

[FanthatSpark]

Now see, there you go again getten all deep, lol. That translates to this one as reinserting concept first where like a child we once knew love but self got in the way in knowledge without conceptual thinking. Agape understood brings the vessel full circle in appliance to all. That's self too ... where Heb: 4:12 connected to 1 Cor 13 further connected to Rom:12 2-3 are in one, however, truth may be lost in the process of reality/duality/perceptions/knowledge where these 3 mean something different in non conceptual thinking... Jesus/God/Love . This leaves a believer stuck in the muck of details trying to separate the three from source to manifestation through self as the judge/duality. These are the straddlers of law and grace not known there is no mixing the two for Spirit lives there not... Any who....

This thread is turning monstrous in size agreed?

 

[x141]

Yes it is, and after all we are on deeper fellowship, and as always you hit the nail on the head ...

God will bring us all to a consensus of himself, he is the only one who can, but as Jesus said inevitably the process will bring us to a time that has never been since the world was, and by God never be again.

 

[x141]

The only path to God is through his son, and the only way to know God as your Father is to be his son.

 

[Noxot]

God said to cleave to him. cleave is a very good word. one of my favorite words.

 

[x141]

Religion is the path of there and back again. Every path that begins in heaven leads to heaven, which I mean (as I do in all things) in the broadest sense, as words defined by spirit only, and not mixed with that which is outside of the city, meaning our mind. By nature, the soul creates an image out of everything it receives, the two seeds that start and end the process in the form of a word, that turns into a voice of many waters come from within, and from without, a choice between the two breeding in the soul a duality as to self, in scripture (one caught or lifted up between heaven and earth), coming in the form of an inheritance divided, a picture of the process of the truth we have always been revealed in the journey.

Jesus having been made all things to us becomes the truth of who we are, and whose face it is upon the throne from which this duality flees, there being no place found for it, or the prince of this world cometh, and he has no place in me (or as the feminine/soul of confusion the testimony of the harlot who rides the beast that her husband is not dead, referring to Adam as the image of a beast/serpent that tills the ground/eats dust all the days of its life/from whence he came.

Planes of existence will be found to be unending in the realm of matter (energy, frequency, vibration) as they are in the realm of consciousness when seeded only from within, which then defines where we are as a pasture we are lead to eat of freely, but one must break the barrier of the plane they think they are defined by at the cost of one’s own soul/thoughts/will/emotions. Nothing of the old gets into the new, but instead becomes redefined by the new, which is an ongoing truth every time we see his/our face.

Most will not remain in the most holy place, preferring to stand outside (glimpsing truth from a distance) of where they already are (even though nothing is out of order).

If we contemplate the earthly truth, that everything we know from scientist about the beginning and expansion of the universe has culminated in a moment in which I began to write this, or the moment one begins to read this, it shows everything from the beginning to the present moment we are experiencing, from where we are presently perceiving things from is for us a culmination of the process of the whole down to every decision a human being has ever made.

 

[x141]

Seek Him, find Him, seek Him more, find Him more.

Hosea 6:3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know ...'

 

[x141]

Defiling yourself with a woman is found in the words "she gave me of the tree, and I did eat" in relationship between our soul and a seed from without it.

 

[Noxot]

I tried for like, two hours to tell a agnostic the difference between me and the atheist and himself, but I don't know how to tell them since they have to taste and see for themselves.

the utter vanity of their seeking of truth and of their understanding about reality compared to Gods heart is not something a person can understand until something happens, which I don't know what it is and so I don't know how to tell them. if only they would see him, then they would understand.