Little Ice ages proof up in smoke

[dad]

So you're making up term to mean something that doesn't really make much sense at all, and the term you make up happens to exactly correspond in words to a normal term yet have an entirely different meaning. Lovely.



I prefer good quality tobacco. Not unmitigated horse manure.

Try to focus on the topic, which is a busted fable of a comet doing stuff. I do not believe in ice ages all that much...let's see you prove the one billions of years ago! Yes there was one after the flood. There was still a lot of ice around apparently when the mammoths were here, no? If you don't want to call that an ice age, fine.

 

[dad]

That's because the impact wiped out the dinosaurs - not initiated the little ice age, or global warming periods - caused simply by the sun's cyclic variance.

http://www.climate4you.com/images/VostokTemp0-420000 BP.gif

Not the one in the OP, because there were mammoths.

The little ice age was merely a fluctuation of the sun.

When I talked about little ice ages that was more to mean 'other' claimed ice ages, besides the big one we usually think of.

 

[dad]

So what about computers, medicine, materials, transport, construction, electronics etc? Are they delusions from hell? Was the research and discovery of of the cause of disease and antibiotics delusions from hell?

They have nothing at all to do with the same state past that is used to model the antichrist scenarios in the name of science.

Sorry, not sure what you mean. No relation to what?

real knowledge has no relation to the first lifeform or any of the far past dreamlands of so called science.

Didn't say I did. Recognising the benefits of something isn't putting it above God and isn't worship.

Putting it first and above His word is worship. If God says He created the world, and manscience says it was a result of a little speck growing real fast, and expanding faster than an airbag in an accident, then we must believe one over the other.

I just find it odd that you say science is the great shame of history but enjoy all its benefits.

Science of this world and time can be OK. It is the alternate creation stories and such that are baseless, and ill inspired.

 

[Aureus]

Try to focus on the topic, which is a busted fable of a comet doing stuff. I do not believe in ice ages all that much...let's see you prove the one billions of years ago! Yes there was one after the flood. There was still a lot of ice around apparently when the mammoths were here, no? If you don't want to call that an ice age, fine.

That ice age, with the mammoths, is still ongoing.

 

[dad]

That ice age, with the mammoths, is still ongoing.

Great. So show your proof there was a previous one billions of years ago. No use talking about the comets that never really dun what science claimed.

 

[Split Rock]

The problem is the ungodly little puddle of criteria they use to draw all their ungodly, and later to be proven false...models of the past on!

Science---the great SHAME of all history.

You really need to stop using the fruits of Science, dad. I am worried about your immortal soul. Please find a deserted island in the Pacific somewhere, where you will be safe from the ungodly SHAME of Science... and not be tempted to continually use it's fruits like you do. Please do this soon.

 

[Loudmouth]

Nothing is against my hypothesis that poor pathetic little manscience can cook up!

What evidence, if found, would be inconsistent with a different state past?

 

[Loudmouth]

Great. So show your proof there was a previous one billions of years ago. No use talking about the comets that never really dun what science claimed.

Show us a single piece of evidence that is inconsistent with a same state past.

 

[dad]

You really need to stop using the fruits of Science, dad. I am worried about your immortal soul.

No one uses any fruits of the so called science that has told us about alternate creation models. No one at all anywhere ever.

Please find a deserted island in the Pacific somewhere, where you will be safe from the ungodly SHAME of Science... and not be tempted to continually use it's fruits like you do. Please do this soon.

They tested nukes on some deserted Islands in the Pacific if I recall. Nowhere is safe from science.

 

[dad]

Show us a single piece of evidence that is inconsistent with a same state past.

The bible!. As far as rocks and atoms and fossils and all that go, it just depends how we look at them. They are all consistent with a different state past. Got anything but religious belief to preach here? No...you may not claim any of the evidence for you whacked out same state past! None at all.

 

[Doveaman]

Scientists propose a possible reason why something happened.

Later research finds evidence that contradicts this.

A new possible conclusion is proposed based on the evidence now available.

That's how science works, guys - not sure what the problem is here?

The problem is that scientists have no confidence in their own conclusions. So why should we?

 

[florida2]

The problem is that scientists have no confidence in their own conclusions. So why should we?

What do you mean?

Scientists are as confident as they can be in their conclusions based on the evidence they have available.

It's essential that they are able to adapt according to new evidence and discoveries.

 

[Nithavela]

Don't you know, Florida? If you make an error once and admit it and take action to correct it, you'll always be cast in doubt of being wrong again, right?

5 The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. 6 The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled.

Whoops, where did that come from?

 

[DogmaHunter]

The problem is the ungodly little puddle of criteria they use to draw all their ungodly, and later to be proven false...models of the past on!

Science---the great SHAME of all history.

People like you don't deserve the interwebs. Or central heat. Or electricity.

You should go live in a cave. I hear there's some room in Tora Bora, now that Osama's not there anymore.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Show us a single piece of evidence that is inconsistent with a same state past.

The bible!.

 

[dad]

People like you don't deserve the interwebs. Or central heat. Or electricity.

People who pretend that these things have any connection to the creation lies of manscience desrve contemptable laughter and disdain.

You should go live in a cave. I hear there's some room in Tora Bora, now that Osama's not there anymore.

Men will seek caves to try to hide from God soon. That won't work. Actually I hear they will be praying that the mountains will fall on them and kill them, they will be so scared.

Meanwhile, if the antichrist leadership of the US wants to move to a cave, I think it would do the world some good.

 

[DogmaHunter]

The problem is that scientists have no confidence in their own conclusions. So why should we?

Scientists don't drive cars, take planes, use cellphones, take meds, ... etc?

 

[Split Rock]

The problem is that scientists have no confidence in their own conclusions. So why should we?

It depends on the conclusion. we have high confidence in some conclusions, such as common descent, and lower confidence in other conclusions, such as where the moon came from.

Your confidence in creationism, on the other hand, is too great. It clouds any ability to see its errors.

 

[Loudmouth]

The bible!

Please explain how someone could not have written the Bible in a same state past.

As far as rocks and atoms and fossils and all that go, it just depends how we look at them. They are all consistent with a different state past.

How are they inconsistent with a same state past?

Got anything but religious belief to preach here? No...you may not claim any of the evidence for you whacked out same state past! None at all.

Why am I not allowed to use evidence to support a same state past?

 

[Split Rock]

No one uses any fruits of the so called science that has told us about alternate creation models. No one at all anywhere ever.

Tell that to people who take vaccines or antibiotics.

They tested nukes on some deserted Islands in the Pacific if I recall. Nowhere is safe from science.

LOL, dad... good one. But not to worry.... there are plenty of islands that the militaries of the world know nothing about. Just build yourself a raft (be sure to not use any products of "manscience") and take it out to sea. Pick an azimuth and hopefully you will find an island with fresh water and coconut trees. Don't forget your KJV1611 bible.

Bon voyage!