Revelation chronological or not?

[Postvieww]

Is the book of Revelation written in chronological order from start to finish or not? If not how does it flow? What are your reasons? I know there are a lot of opinions on this. I would like to hear yours.

 

[tranquil]

Revelation is not exactly chronological, but appears to be somewhat "instantaneous" - within the context of the "Day of the Lord".

The "Day of the Lord" is when the blessings of the Mosaic covenant are poured out. Good people get to live in the New Jerusalem (not really being whisked into the sky). This occurs in parallel to the curses that are poured out to the wicked. The 7 headed Satan/ dragon and the False Prophet arise after the "Day of the Lord". The wrath of God is giving wicked people the king that they deserve.

Seals 1-6 are of indeterminate timing, except to say that the Great Tribulation occurs during all or some of these. (This takes us up to Rev 7)

Seal 6 is where "the day of His wrath has come". People, the 144,000, are sealed. (at Nisan 15/ Passover)

Trumpets 1-7 occur during this "day of wrath/ day of the Lord". Trumpet 5 is 5 months long, Trumpet 6 is 1 year, 1 month, 1 day, 1 hour. From Nisan 1 to Nisan 1 is the "year of the Lord". Rosh Hashanah is the 'day of the Lord'. This could also mean 1 year, so technically Nisan 1 to Rosh Hashanah to Rosh Hashanah = 1.5 solar years just like Trumpet 5 and 6 describe.

Revelation 10 starts at the day of the Lord. The mighty angel gives the temple to the Gentiles for 42 months.

Rev 11, the "holy city" is trampled for 42 months. The only "holy city" is the New Jerusalem. The New Jerusalem "comes down" at the beginning of the Day of the Lord.

Rev 12, the birth of Zion occurs at the "day of the Lord". The woman is in the wilderness for time, times, and a half time.

Rev 13, the 7 headed Satan arises immediately after the Day of the Lord. Then immediately after the 7 headed dragon is the False Prophet. The "beast" and the False Prophet are "Gog and Magog" (the 7th is of the 8th)

Rev 14, the sealed 144,000 are on Mt. Zion at the beginning of the Day of the Lord. Why are they sealed at the beginning of the Day of the Lord? The sealing occurs at Passover, Nisan 15. That is the 15 day delay that is occuring with the 4 angels waiting for the wrath to start at Rev 7:1-3.

Rev 14's 1st angel says, God's judgment has come (start of the Day of the Lord's wrath). The 2nd angel says that Babylon has fallen. (start of the Day of the Lord judgment). The 3rd angel warns people not to take the mark of the Beast (the 7 headed dragon and False Prophet arise after the Day of the Lord is done). Then the Harvest commences (after the fall of Babylon, the angels are gathering the saints. First the Philadelphia church then Laodiceans later.)

Rev 15, 16 the bowls of wrath/ cups of wrath are poured out (starting at the Day of the Lord). Bowl 6, Armageddon occurs during the "day of the Lord"

Rev 16
The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East. 13 Then I saw three impure spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 They are demonic spirits that perform signs, and they go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty.
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Armageddon is what kills the beast and false prophet. Gog and Magog arise afterwards - the 7 headed dragon (the beast) and the false prophet come back to life.

Rev 17, the beast arises (after the day of the Lord) and the great prostitute will ride the 7 headed dragon for 42 months. The 10 kings burn her with fire.

Rev 18, Babylon has fallen and become a cage for unclean birds (martial law and the surveillance state). The angel says to come out of her to avoid the plagues that have been issued. (Babylon falls at the Day of the Lord's wrath and rises again afterwards.)

Rev 19, the marriage of the Lamb has come. The feast starts when people come out of Babylon that has fallen. They don't take the mark of the false prophet and beast that arise immediately after the 'day of the Lord".

Rev 20, Satan is bound by the Rev 10 mighty angel for "1000 years". We know from 2 Peter 3:8 that a "day with the Lord" is like a 1000 years. Satan is bound for the "day of the Lord". After the Day of the Lord (which can last up to 1.5 solar years), the 7 headed dragon and false prophet come back to life and arise out of the abyss (which is Rev 13). These 2 are Gog and Magog. (the 7th king is of the 8th = Gog is of Magog).

Rev 21, the New Jerusalem comes down during the day of the Lord.

Rev 22, is indeterminate timing.

 

[vinsight4u]

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[beck12]

Its in complete order, nothing not in order.

 

[n2thelight]

Is the book of Revelation written in chronological order from start to finish or not? If not how does it flow? What are your reasons? I know there are a lot of opinions on this. I would like to hear yours.

Nope.........


Revelation 1:10 "I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,"

This verse is the key to understanding the book of Revelation. Without a clear and full understanding of it, the entire book just will not make sense. The sequence of order will seem strange.

"I"; this is John speaking and telling us where he was. "I was in the Spirit", not in his flesh body; "on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet". John is taken forward in time, "in the Spirit", to the day of the Lord. The "Day of the Lord" is not referring to Sunday or Saturday. This is the same "Day of the Lord" Paul speaks about in I Thessalonians 5:2, as "coming as a thief in the night". Later in II Thessalonians 2:2-3 Paul makes it clear that at the "Day of the Lord" Christ's return will not happen until "after there will be a great falling away first; and "that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition". Satan must be revealed in his role as the Antichrist first, before that seventh trumpet can sound, the last trumpet.

The time, or day, John was taken to was beyond our time frame, however we are living in the generation that will see it come to pass, and live through what John saw and lived, while in the Spirit. There is only one day that is called "The Day of the Lord" in all the Scriptures.

Isaiah 2:12 "For the day of the Lord of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low."

This is the day that our Lord returns. This is the day "God's cup of wrath" is poured out upon His enemies. So John was taken in the Spirit to the last day of this earth age, before the start of the age of the Millennium. If you are still in your flesh body, that day hasn't happened yet, and it is still future to us.

Every verse that you read in Revelation from this verse to the end of chapter twenty two, will be viewed from the Lord's day, either looking backwards or forwards a short period of time. If you don't come to that point of time in your understanding with John, the rest of what he is saying just will not make sense.

 

[BABerean2]

Forcing the book into a totally chronological sequence produces some of the strange endtime viewpoints we hear on this forum.

Chapter 6 would seem to be a summary of events.
The wrath of the Lamb in chapter 6 means the Lamb is present and has a reference to the events at Armageddon where the mighty men hide from the wrath of the Lamb. The islands and mountains being moved out to their places would seem to indicate a worldwide catastrophic event which would kill all Flesh.

Chapter 12 is a review of Church History. It details the birth of Christ. There is also the possibility that the 3 1/2 years in this chapter is a reference to Joseph taking Jesus and Mary to Egypt. There seems to be a reference to the Flood toward the end of the chapter. It also indicates at least part of the trib is the wrath of Satan against the people of God.

Chapter 14 is a picture of the wheat and tares harvest.

The most confusion is produced by the reference to the Gog/Magog battle in Rev. chapter 20, which is a retelling of the battle of Armageddon. The mountains are destroyed, there is large hail, and the birds eat the flesh of those killed in both battles. The mountains can only be destroyed one time.

Many produce a literal 1,000 year time when people continue to die and sin still exists after the return of Christ. Some of us have a very difficult time seeing Christ preaching at a funeral after He has already destroyed death and sin at the cross.

A local Baptist minister stated his belief that Chapters 1-11 give the Main Events, while Chapters 12-22 give the Details. His idea seems to give a more logical solution to the proper interpretation.

 

[rdclmn72]

The visions are mostly non-chronological.

 

[vinsight4u]

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[Choose Wisely]

Revelation is not exactly chronological, but appears to be somewhat "instantaneous" - within the context of the "Day of the Lord".

The "Day of the Lord" is when the blessings of the Mosaic covenant are poured out. Good people get to live in the New Jerusalem (not really being whisked into the sky). This occurs in parallel to the curses that are poured out to the wicked. The 7 headed Satan/ dragon and the False Prophet arise after the "Day of the Lord". The wrath of God is giving wicked people the king that they deserve.

Seals 1-6 are of indeterminate timing, except to say that the Great Tribulation occurs during all or some of these. (This takes us up to Rev 7)

Seal 6 is where "the day of His wrath has come". People, the 144,000, are sealed. (at Nisan 15/ Passover)

Trumpets 1-7 occur during this "day of wrath/ day of the Lord". Trumpet 5 is 5 months long, Trumpet 6 is 1 year, 1 month, 1 day, 1 hour. From Nisan 1 to Nisan 1 is the "year of the Lord". Rosh Hashanah is the 'day of the Lord'. This could also mean 1 year, so technically Nisan 1 to Rosh Hashanah to Rosh Hashanah = 1.5 solar years just like Trumpet 5 and 6 describe.

Revelation 10 starts at the day of the Lord. The mighty angel gives the temple to the Gentiles for 42 months.

Rev 11, the "holy city" is trampled for 42 months. The only "holy city" is the New Jerusalem. The New Jerusalem "comes down" at the beginning of the Day of the Lord.

Rev 12, the birth of Zion occurs at the "day of the Lord". The woman is in the wilderness for time, times, and a half time.

Rev 13, the 7 headed Satan arises immediately after the Day of the Lord. Then immediately after the 7 headed dragon is the False Prophet. The "beast" and the False Prophet are "Gog and Magog" (the 7th is of the 8th)

Rev 14, the sealed 144,000 are on Mt. Zion at the beginning of the Day of the Lord. Why are they sealed at the beginning of the Day of the Lord? The sealing occurs at Passover, Nisan 15. That is the 15 day delay that is occuring with the 4 angels waiting for the wrath to start at Rev 7:1-3.

Rev 14's 1st angel says, God's judgment has come (start of the Day of the Lord's wrath). The 2nd angel says that Babylon has fallen. (start of the Day of the Lord judgment). The 3rd angel warns people not to take the mark of the Beast (the 7 headed dragon and False Prophet arise after the Day of the Lord is done). Then the Harvest commences (after the fall of Babylon, the angels are gathering the saints. First the Philadelphia church then Laodiceans later.)

Rev 15, 16 the bowls of wrath/ cups of wrath are poured out (starting at the Day of the Lord). Bowl 6, Armageddon occurs during the "day of the Lord"

Rev 16
The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East. 13 Then I saw three impure spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 They are demonic spirits that perform signs, and they go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty.
​

Armageddon is what kills the beast and false prophet. Gog and Magog arise afterwards - the 7 headed dragon (the beast) and the false prophet come back to life.

Rev 17, the beast arises (after the day of the Lord) and the great prostitute will ride the 7 headed dragon for 42 months. The 10 kings burn her with fire.

Rev 18, Babylon has fallen and become a cage for unclean birds (martial law and the surveillance state). The angel says to come out of her to avoid the plagues that have been issued. (Babylon falls at the Day of the Lord's wrath and rises again afterwards.)

Rev 19, the marriage of the Lamb has come. The feast starts when people come out of Babylon that has fallen. They don't take the mark of the false prophet and beast that arise immediately after the 'day of the Lord".

Rev 20, Satan is bound by the Rev 10 mighty angel for "1000 years". We know from 2 Peter 3:8 that a "day with the Lord" is like a 1000 years. Satan is bound for the "day of the Lord". After the Day of the Lord (which can last up to 1.5 solar years), the 7 headed dragon and false prophet come back to life and arise out of the abyss (which is Rev 13). These 2 are Gog and Magog. (the 7th king is of the 8th = Gog is of Magog).

Rev 21, the New Jerusalem comes down during the day of the Lord.

Rev 22, is indeterminate timing.

I agree with a lot of what you are saying. Tell me.....are you pre trib....post trib...pre wrath.........or what?

 

[tranquil]

I agree with a lot of what you are saying. Tell me.....are you pre trib....post trib...pre wrath.........or what?

There is a New Jerusalem in heaven and on earth. The New Jerusalem on earth is almost ready to be unveiled...

IMO, God doesn't whisk people away to heaven like in "Left Behind". The "rapture" is merely your choice to not worship the beast or false prophet. You "rapture" yourself - by going to the wilderness/ leaving Babylon.

The wicked condemn themselves by staying in Babylon. The righteous are blessed by God because they leave Babylon. Babylon is where the torment will be. That's where the plagues are - spiritual and physical. Yes, it will be rough for a little while outside of Babylon, but will be nothing compared for what is in store for those that stay. Their fate is sealed, and it won't be pretty.

The "mark of the beast" is the "line in the sand" for everyone to make a choice. Technically, one could be "raptured" now - in this I mean one could try to exist outside of Babylon right now. The homeless are in New Jerusalem right now.

Babylon will fall soon, and then Satan will be reborn and will say, you are either with me or against me. And that will be our cue to leave. That will be my "rapture", if I survive. And who will be out in the wilderness? All the people that won't worship Satan...

So, to answer your question, the "rapture" occurs when Babylon falls at the Day of the Lord.

 

[iamlamad]

Revelation is not exactly chronological, but appears to be somewhat "instantaneous" - within the context of the "Day of the Lord".

The "Day of the Lord" is when the blessings of the Mosaic covenant are poured out. Good people get to live in the New Jerusalem (not really being whisked into the sky). This occurs in parallel to the curses that are poured out to the wicked. The 7 headed Satan/ dragon and the False Prophet arise after the "Day of the Lord". The wrath of God is giving wicked people the king that they deserve.

Seals 1-6 are of indeterminate timing, except to say that the Great Tribulation occurs during all or some of these. (This takes us up to Rev 7)

Seal 6 is where "the day of His wrath has come". People, the 144,000, are sealed. (at Nisan 15/ Passover)

Trumpets 1-7 occur during this "day of wrath/ day of the Lord". Trumpet 5 is 5 months long, Trumpet 6 is 1 year, 1 month, 1 day, 1 hour. From Nisan 1 to Nisan 1 is the "year of the Lord". Rosh Hashanah is the 'day of the Lord'. This could also mean 1 year, so technically Nisan 1 to Rosh Hashanah to Rosh Hashanah = 1.5 solar years just like Trumpet 5 and 6 describe.

Revelation 10 starts at the day of the Lord. The mighty angel gives the temple to the Gentiles for 42 months.

Rev 11, the "holy city" is trampled for 42 months. The only "holy city" is the New Jerusalem. The New Jerusalem "comes down" at the beginning of the Day of the Lord.

Rev 12, the birth of Zion occurs at the "day of the Lord". The woman is in the wilderness for time, times, and a half time.

Rev 13, the 7 headed Satan arises immediately after the Day of the Lord. Then immediately after the 7 headed dragon is the False Prophet. The "beast" and the False Prophet are "Gog and Magog" (the 7th is of the 8th)

Rev 14, the sealed 144,000 are on Mt. Zion at the beginning of the Day of the Lord. Why are they sealed at the beginning of the Day of the Lord? The sealing occurs at Passover, Nisan 15. That is the 15 day delay that is occuring with the 4 angels waiting for the wrath to start at Rev 7:1-3.

Rev 14's 1st angel says, God's judgment has come (start of the Day of the Lord's wrath). The 2nd angel says that Babylon has fallen. (start of the Day of the Lord judgment). The 3rd angel warns people not to take the mark of the Beast (the 7 headed dragon and False Prophet arise after the Day of the Lord is done). Then the Harvest commences (after the fall of Babylon, the angels are gathering the saints. First the Philadelphia church then Laodiceans later.)

Rev 15, 16 the bowls of wrath/ cups of wrath are poured out (starting at the Day of the Lord). Bowl 6, Armageddon occurs during the "day of the Lord"

Rev 16
The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East. 13 Then I saw three impure spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 They are demonic spirits that perform signs, and they go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty.
​

Armageddon is what kills the beast and false prophet. Gog and Magog arise afterwards - the 7 headed dragon (the beast) and the false prophet come back to life.

Rev 17, the beast arises (after the day of the Lord) and the great prostitute will ride the 7 headed dragon for 42 months. The 10 kings burn her with fire.

Rev 18, Babylon has fallen and become a cage for unclean birds (martial law and the surveillance state). The angel says to come out of her to avoid the plagues that have been issued. (Babylon falls at the Day of the Lord's wrath and rises again afterwards.)

Rev 19, the marriage of the Lamb has come. The feast starts when people come out of Babylon that has fallen. They don't take the mark of the false prophet and beast that arise immediately after the 'day of the Lord".

Rev 20, Satan is bound by the Rev 10 mighty angel for "1000 years". We know from 2 Peter 3:8 that a "day with the Lord" is like a 1000 years. Satan is bound for the "day of the Lord". After the Day of the Lord (which can last up to 1.5 solar years), the 7 headed dragon and false prophet come back to life and arise out of the abyss (which is Rev 13). These 2 are Gog and Magog. (the 7th king is of the 8th = Gog is of Magog).

Rev 21, the New Jerusalem comes down during the day of the Lord.

Rev 22, is indeterminate timing.

This post is mostly human reasoning that cannot be backed up by scripture.
Why not just believe John?

The "Day of the Lord" is an extended period of time that begins right after the rapture (the rapture is the trigger for the Day of the Lord) and goes on through at least the 1000 year reign of Christ.

The 70th week is INSIDE the Day of the Lord.

The Day of the Lord begins at the 6th seal, right after the pretrib rapture. The 70th week begins at the 7th seal - the 30 minutes of silence.
The 7th trumpet marks the exact midpoint of the week.
The 7th vial ends the 70th week.
The trumpet judgments (the first six) are in the first half of the 70th week.
The vial judgments come some unknown time in the last half of the 70th week. God will use the vials to shorten the days of great tribulation.

The 1260 plus 30 days, or 1290 days points to an event 30 days after the end of the 70th week - not some time inside the 70th week. Same with the 1335 days.

Events found in any given chapter of Revelation (after chapters 1-3) will come to pass AFTER the events of any previous chapter, and before the events of later chapters (with minor exceptions for parentheses).

All seals will be broken and opened before any trumpet judgments come.
All trumpet judgments will be sounded before any vials are poured out.

The seals, trumpets and vials are numbered and will CERTAINLY take place in their ordered number.

Any theory that must rearrange John's God given chronology is immediately suspect and will be proven wrong.

Finally, if someone imagines that something is not in the right order, it is up to them to prove it by scripture if they can.

 

[rollinTHUNDER]

This post is mostly human reasoning that cannot be backed up by scripture.
Why not just believe John?

The "Day of the Lord" is an extended period of time that begins right after the rapture (the rapture is the trigger for the Day of the Lord) and goes on through at least the 1000 year reign of Christ.

The 70th week is INSIDE the Day of the Lord.

The Day of the Lord begins at the 6th seal, right after the pretrib rapture. The 70th week begins at the 7th seal - the 30 minutes of silence.
The 7th trumpet marks the exact midpoint of the week.
The 7th vial ends the 70th week.
The trumpet judgments (the first six) are in the first half of the 70th week.
The vial judgments come some unknown time in the last half of the 70th week. God will use the vials to shorten the days of great tribulation.

The 1260 plus 30 days, or 1290 days points to an event 30 days after the end of the 70th week - not some time inside the 70th week. Same with the 1335 days.

Events found in any given chapter of Revelation (after chapters 1-3) will come to pass AFTER the events of any previous chapter, and before the events of later chapters (with minor exceptions for parentheses).

All seals will be broken and opened before any trumpet judgments come.
All trumpet judgments will be sounded before any vials are poured out.

The seals, trumpets and vials are numbered and will CERTAINLY take place in their ordered number.

Any theory that must rearrange John's God given chronology is immediately suspect and will be proven wrong.

Finally, if someone imagines that something is not in the right order, it is up to them to prove it by scripture if they can.

Sheesh! And you claim that the other guy was just posting human reasoning not backed with scripture. I sure would like to know what you call your mess.

 

[NannaNae]

I vote for basically chronological.
there is an insert that is an overview of the plan from all time before he starts his wrath. and some details that happen before the terrible time of his wrath.
the insert/ overview / and weighing ....
is his reasoning for the judgement, kind of .

 

[Rev20]

Is the book of Revelation written in chronological order from start to finish or not? If not how does it flow? What are your reasons? I know there are a lot of opinions on this. I would like to hear yours.

Revelation chapters 5 and 12 seem to eliminate any possibility that the book is chronological.

 

[Rev20]

There is a New Jerusalem in heaven and on earth. The New Jerusalem on earth is almost ready to be unveiled...

New Jerusalem is the Church, and has existed since at least the day of Pentecost:

"And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved." -- Acts 2:46-47​

This is the church, which Paul explained in the present tense, not future:

"But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel." -- Heb 12:22-24​

 

[Postvieww]

Revelation chapters 5 and 12 seem to eliminate any possibility that the book is chronological.

I get your point for chapter 12 please explain for chapter 5?

 

[Interplanner]

As for Lamad, he should start with the fact that Pentecost was called the day of the Lord and procede from there.

 

[iamlamad]

Forcing the book into a totally chronological sequence produces some of the strange endtime viewpoints we hear on this forum.

Chapter 6 would seem to be a summary of events.
The wrath of the Lamb in chapter 6 means the Lamb is present and has a reference to the events at Armageddon where the mighty men hide from the wrath of the Lamb. The islands and mountains being moved out to their places would seem to indicate a worldwide catastrophic event which would kill all Flesh.

Chapter 12 is a review of Church History. It details the birth of Christ. There is also the possibility that the 3 1/2 years in this chapter is a reference to Joseph taking Jesus and Mary to Egypt. There seems to be a reference to the Flood toward the end of the chapter. It also indicates at least part of the trib is the wrath of Satan against the people of God.

Chapter 14 is a picture of the wheat and tares harvest.

The most confusion is produced by the reference to the Gog/Magog battle in Rev. chapter 20, which is a retelling of the battle of Armageddon. The mountains are destroyed, there is large hail, and the birds eat the flesh of those killed in both battles. The mountains can only be destroyed one time.

Many produce a literal 1,000 year time when people continue to die and sin still exists after the return of Christ. Some of us have a very difficult time seeing Christ preaching at a funeral after He has already destroyed death and sin at the cross.

A local Baptist minister stated his belief that Chapters 1-11 give the Main Events, while Chapters 12-22 give the Details. His idea seems to give a more logical solution to the proper interpretation.

"Forcing the book into a totally chronological sequence"

This is a strange way to say it: it is WRITTEN in order. No one has to force anything. ANY theory that must rearrange will be proven wrong.

 

[iamlamad]

Revelation chapters 5 and 12 seem to eliminate any possibility that the book is chronological.

Anyone that would write this clearly has little understanding of the Author's intent of these chapters:

Chapters 4 & 5 fit together to form the CONTEXT and show the TIMING of the first seals. They are NOT out of sequence, because they are a parenthesis: a vision of the past considering the time John saw the vision. The church was perhaps 60 years old, but this was a vision looking back to when Jesus ascended into heaven. We should recognize this as a parenthesis.

Chapter 6 follows chapter 5 with the first 5 seals being broken as soon as Jesus ascended.

Revelation switches from past to the future (even for the first readers) between the 5th and 6th seal, because we are still waiting for the 6th seal.
The 6th seal starts the Day of the Lord and His wrath.

Chapter 7 is an intermission so John can rearrange the setting: two events absolutely must take place before the 7th seal opens the 70th week: the church must be safely in heaven and the 144,000 must be sealed.

Chapters 8 & 9 are the beginning of judgment: the trumpets.

Chapter 10 begins the midpoint intermission: to cover all the events that are close to the midpoint. This intermission goes from chapter 10 to chapter 15, but this intermission is not as clear cut as the first, between the 6th and 7th seal.

Chapter 11 begins with the man of sin entering Jerusalem with his Gentile armies - probably just 3 1/2 days before the exact midpoint of the week.

The two witnesses show up when they do because the man of sin showed up - 3 1/2 days before the midpoint abomination. The rest of their story is written as a parenthesis, with no bearing on chronology. It is a side journey down the last half of the week for the two witnesses. The parenthesis is 11:4 through 11:13. The two witnesses testify only 3 1/2 days before the man of sin will enter the temple and declare he is God: and so stop the daily sacrifices.

Chapter 12 is all about God introducing John to the Dragon, and in particular what the dragon will do in the second half of the week. God must cover the dragon first, because the dragon will be behind everything the Beast does.
However, as God was introducing John to what the dragon would be doing in the future, He chose to show John how the dragon attempted to kill Him as a child - so the first five verses are written as a parenthesis.

Chapter 13 is God introducing John to the Beast and False Prophet.

As you can easily see, all these things are written in the exact order they will take place, except for the parentheses. Even the parenthesis make perfect sense in the places they are written. God, using John as the writer, takes us from the start of the church age to the time Jesus turns everything over to the Father - all in proper chronological order. Therefore, any attempt to rearrange will just scramble and make nonsense of what God has given us as the proper order of events.

 

[iamlamad]

Sheesh! And you claim that the other guy was just posting human reasoning not backed with scripture. I sure would like to know what you call your mess.

What are you saying? You are calling what John wrote a "mess." I am saying it is written by God in the exact order these events will take place. Is that a "mess?" I think you should apologize to God for calling His Revelation a "mess!"