Take your pick and call a spade a spade

[Delphiki]

Abiogenesis simply says, "Life didn't start from life."

WRONG.

Abiogenesis asks "Where did life come from?"

 

[AV1611VET]

More word games from you. Shouldn't be supprised.

The "word game" comes from the term "abiogenesis."

The term itself is self-explanatory, but it isn't taught that way.

Way to ignore the rest of my post and the points I made that show why you have to divert the discussion.

I'm just trying to stay on topic.

Life came from somewhere,

Life came from God.

... and the only thing outside of life is non-living matter.

That's right.

But 'non-living matter' is not where life came from.

The first life that appeared-- angels --- came from NOTHING, and didn't consist of matter.

Funny thing is, even from the evolution point of view, you are unique.

I'm not interested in "how unique evolution makes me" in this thread.

I didn't come from abiogenesis.

And in my opinion, if you want creationism taken out of schools for reasons you stated, then I think you should want abiogenesis taken out as well.

 

[HitchSlap]

In the view point of the creationist, Satan runs the world (and all the kingdoms in it). The bible states that Satan tried to tempt Jesus trying to offer him all the worldy kingdoms...the bible also says that Jesus is the cornerstone (note that it does not say Jesus is the capstone). So, who is the capstone? Satan.

The bible has said Satan runs ALL the kingdoms of the world.....I believe this is why Evolution theory has "won". The very FIRST mention of Satan was when we he DECEIVING eve. He is a deceiver. He controls ALL the kingdoms...this includes most of "falsely called" science too.

Nothing of evolution can be tested by the common man. It's all cloak and deception and the media and scientific entities are glad to support it.

Who is "Satan"?

 

[AV1611VET]

And you have not shown there is anything creationism contributes to society, today's society.

I don't need to.

That wasn't brought up until after I responded.

Am I going to have to keep reminding you of your original statement?

There is a reason creationism is not taught in schools, much less at the university level, and that is becuase it doesn't predict anything and hasn't provided any advancements in bioliogy or medicen.

How did we get from 'advancements in bioliogy or medicen' to 'anything that contributes to today's society'?

You're moving the goalpost around to make it look like I'm not addressing your original point.

 

[AV1611VET]

WRONG.

Abiogenesis asks "Where did life come from?"

I disagree.

"Abiogenesis" answers where life didn't come from: "not from life."

 

[Queller]

Nothing of evolution can be tested by the common man. It's all cloak and deception and the media and scientific entities are glad to support it.

Lenski's experiments don't provide evidence for evolution?

 

[Queller]

Dust of the ground.

Right. Ground up rocks.

BTW, since soil is partially composed of dead and decayed plant and animal matter, how could there be soil in an earth only 6 days old. That isn't enough time for anything to die and decay to create the soil.

Or is that something else your deceiver god lied about?

 

[AV1611VET]

Who is "Satan"?

The leader of the nine muses (fallen angels), which includes Urania (?), the goddess of science.

 

[AV1611VET]

BTW, since soil is partially composed of dead and decayed plant and animal matter, how could there be soil in an earth only 6 days old.

Adam & Eve walked on pure soil.

 

[TLK Valentine]

It must have eroded quickly then.

(Assuming there was such a thing as erosion back then.)

Magical indestructible rocks, AV?

 

[AV1611VET]

Magical indestructible rocks, AV?

No

 

[TLK Valentine]

And you have not shown there is anything creationism contributes to society, today's society. Thus, proving my point.

Actually, I think he has shown it -- he's shown that creationism contributes nothing.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Adam & Eve walked on pure soil.

Embedded erosion?

 

[TLK Valentine]

No

But rocks that don't erode?

 

[AV1611VET]

Actually, I think he has shown it -- he's shown that creationism contributes nothing.

You're right, there.

Creationism add NOTHING to the equation of where this universe came from.

And until one understands NOTHING, he can't understand creatio ex nihilo.

 

[AV1611VET]

Embedded erosion?

Pure soil.

 

[AV1611VET]

But rocks that don't erode?

Rocks that didn't erode.

(They're eroded now, I'm sure.)

 

[TLK Valentine]

Rocks that didn't erode.

(They're eroded now, I'm sure.)

but they couldn't back then?

 

[florida2]

Rocks that didn't erode.

(They're eroded now, I'm sure.)

So wind and water magically couldn't erode rocks back then?


Wow, that's a new one.

 

[Simmeh]

So wind and water magically couldn't erode rocks back then?


Wow, that's a new one.

You know, there's probably a joke here involving a certain other user's claim that rocks are alive and the idea of "no death before the Fall."