Take your pick and call a spade a spade

[CabVet]

That's a matter of opinion.

Yep, I am of the opinion that Jesus' Bible was the same one that every other Jew had at the time. He shared everything with the disciples, his visions, temptations, even the vision of his own death. If he had an exclusive God-inspired Bible that nobody else did, I think he would have told them.

 

[NannaNae]

Yes, soil which is made up of decomposed organic matter. How is this possible in an 6 day old universe in which organic matter had only been around for 2 days?

ah do you know that plants get their food/ sugar from the sun right? and did you know that seeds start best in sterile soils.. now they grow best in hummus rich soils but those just had to wait a minute for a dino to pass by and it was get hummused..

i have a green house full of aquaponics and you can grow and plant floating on a raft in nutrient rich water and you would be surprised how big they can get with NO soil!

check out U tube for some better understanding of plants..

God said he water the world pre flood from underneath so he invented aquaponics only needed fish / hydroponics only needed nutrient in water.. .. surprize!!

 

[AV1611VET]

Yep, I am of the opinion that Jesus' Bible was the same one that every other Jew had at the time. He shared everything with the disciples, his visions, temptations, even the vision of his own death. If he had an exclusive God-inspired Bible that nobody else did, I think he would have told them.

And your point is?

 

[CabVet]

I knew someone would bring that up, LOL.

Fine, I'll just shorten the question:

So Adam couldn't have done any rock-splitting?

What for?

 

[Paulos23]

ah do you know that plants get their food/ sugar from the sun right? and did you know that seeds start best in sterile soils.. now they grow best in hummus rich soils but those just had to wait a minute for a dino to pass by and it was get hummused..

i have a green house full of aquaponics and you can grow and plant floating on a raft in nutrient rich water and you would be surprised how big they can get with NO soil!

check out U tube for some better understanding of plants..

God said he water the world pre flood from underneath so he invented aquaponics.. surprize!!

That...is a strech....

 

[CabVet]

And your point is?

That Jesus didn't use the KJV.

 

[CabVet]

That...is a strech....

That's what is needed to rationalize to creation story.

 

[TLK Valentine]

So Adam couldn't have done any rock-splitting to make a house, prior to the Fall?

hey, "no erosion" is your fantasy, not mine -- although I can certainly understand why you'd want to distance yourself from it now.

Besides, what would he have needed a house for?

 

[NannaNae]

God invented technology and science a long time before man.
that is where man learned technology ..
from him in the garden..
hydroponics , aquaponics that is simple easy real easy real science stuff . the miracle of a seed , now that is real technology!
all man had to do was just have to add some of that miracle we call water and light to a seed and it grows..!
water is awesome and nothing of life can exist with out it!
God is great!

 

[CabVet]

God invented technology and science a long time before man.
that is where man learned technology ..
from him in the garden..
hydroponics , aquaponics that is simple easy real easy real science stuff . the miracle of a seed , now that is real technology!
all man had to do was just have to add some of that miracle we call water and light to a seed and it grows..!
water is awesome and nothing of life can exist with out it!
God is great!

What? So God invented technology and kept it from us just so we could suffer through ages of disease before we invent it ourselves? Is that how great he is? Also, water is not a miracle, it's a substance.

 

[Astrophile]

The leader of the nine muses (fallen angels), which includes Urania (?), the goddess of science.

Urania was the muse of astronomy.

 

[AV1611VET]

Urania was the muse of astronomy.

I can't pinpoint which one is specifically in charge of science.

What with Satan being the author of confusion and all ... I'm not surprised.

 

[NannaNae]

I can't pinpoint which one is specifically in charge of science.

What with Satan being the author of confusion and all ... I'm not surprised.

rotf..

 

[TLK Valentine]

I can't pinpoint which one is specifically in charge of science.

What with Satan being the author of confusion and all ... I'm not surprised.

Wouldn't that make you the ghostwriter of confusion?

 

[TLK Valentine]

God invented technology and science a long time before man.
that is where man learned technology ..
from him in the garden..
hydroponics , aquaponics that is simple easy real easy real science stuff . the miracle of a seed , now that is real technology!
all man had to do was just have to add some of that miracle we call water and light to a seed and it grows..!
water is awesome and nothing of life can exist with out it!
God is great!

The problem is that technology exists to help man overcome obstacles -- need to travel? Invent the wheel. Need to lift something heavy? Invent the pulley. Etc., etc...

What obstacles would God need to overcome, or man, living in perfect world (Eden/Heaven) need to overcome?

 

[TLK Valentine]

I knew someone would bring that up, LOL.

Fine, I'll just shorten the question:

So Adam couldn't have done any rock-splitting?

According to you -- no, he couldn't.

But of course, that's just your opinion; you could be wrong.

 

[CabVet]

I can't pinpoint which one is specifically in charge of science.

What with Satan being the author of confusion and all ... I'm not surprised.

I am surprised you don't attribute (or equate) science to satan.

 

[SkyWriting]

In the view point of the creationist, Satan runs the world (and all the kingdoms in it). The bible states that Satan tried to tempt Jesus trying to offer him all the worldy kingdoms...the bible also says that Jesus is the cornerstone (note that it does not say Jesus is the capstone). So, who is the capstone? Satan.

The bible has said Satan runs ALL the kingdoms of the world.....I believe this is why Evolution theory has "won". The very FIRST mention of Satan was when we he DECEIVING eve. He is a deceiver. He controls ALL the kingdoms...this includes most of "falsely called" science too.

Nothing of evolution can be tested by the common man. It's all cloak and deception and the media and scientific entities are glad to support it.

I'm afraid you are mis-speaking. The vast overwhelming majority of Evolution
(the study of how organisms change over time) is correct and testable.
A few theories exist as to how changes to DNA are guided by biology to some
extent or are actually random.

This is where experimentation and testing will determine if the "random" changes
to DNA are actually random or not. Still, many fields use experimental results for
illuminating what changes do take place and why.

What you are speaking out against is a small sub-set of evolution that dwells in
the untestable reaches of the past. Namely, the theory of common origins.
If there was such a concept as "Scientific History", it would be a field of study.
There is no such thing. Science cannot discover the past.

Science can create fiction that seems to fit the facts, sometimes closely,
and other times only in concept and theory.

Darwin had a very loose concept of past events and his books were simply
science oriented fiction. Some of it has been supported by other theorists,
some not. But it's all fiction. Like any Sci-Fi, it is all based loosely on
interpreted evidence.

But getting back to "evolution", most of it can be confirmed by
experiments. Origins cannot.

 

[CabVet]

I'm afraid you are mis-speaking. The vast overwhelming majority of Evolution
(the study of how organisms change over time) is correct and testable.
A few theories exist as to how changes to DNA are guided by biology to some
extent or are actually random.

This is where experimentation and testing will determine if the "random" changes
to DNA are actually random or not. Still, many fields use experimental results for
illuminating what changes do take place and why.

What you are speaking out against is a small sub-set of evolution that dwells in
the untestable reaches of the past. Namely, the theory of common origins.
If there was such a concept as "Scientific History", it would be a field of study.
There is no such thing. Science cannot discover the past.

Science can create fiction that seems to fit the facts, sometimes closely,
and other times only in concept and theory.

Darwin had a very loose concept of past events and his books were simply
science oriented fiction. Some of it has been supported by other theorists,
some not. But it's all fiction. Like any Sci-Fi, it is all based loosely on
interpreted evidence.

But getting back to "evolution", most of it can be confirmed by
experiments. Origins cannot.

You give the impression of authority, have you ever studied evolution in an academic setting? Which ones of Darwin's "books" are you talking about?

Also, science does study historical events. Your misconception that it doesn't comes from the fact that your understanding of science is that which is taught in middle school.

 

[SkyWriting]

God invented technology and science a long time before man.
that is where man learned technology ..
from him in the garden..
hydroponics , aquaponics that is simple easy real easy real science stuff . the miracle of a seed , now that is real technology!
all man had to do was just have to add some of that miracle we call water and light to a seed and it grows..!
water is awesome and nothing of life can exist with out it!
God is great!

Well, no. Technology that results from the accumulation of science
is strictly from man, and based on worldly experiences.

God is spirit, and has no connection with our world as we know it.
Jesus did visit, but the world is chaff and will be burned. God will
have nothing to do with it in the end. Satan is the god of this World.

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world has blinded the minds


Topical Bible: Satan: The Prince: The God of This World