Sabbath was made for man

[Gibs]

Right on par you are. Unfortunately that isn't what was said. You changed the subject. ehehehehehawhe Oh an BTW ol' Bob doesn't keep the Sabbath as outlined on the stone tablets.

Well that call is up to the LORD the judge but I am of the thinking that Bob fulfills it as God would have him. Bob may have a come back or may have to you on that one already as I notice that is one of your favorite quips.

I know Bob to be a very honest and a Christian square shooter.

Nothing God desires of us is impossible or galling when it is our love and desire to please Him!

 

[Gibs]

Nobody really "keeps" the Sabbath as you would have to turn off all power and turn off the water and gas to your house and stay at home and nobody here has ever admitted to doing so here. The fact you are posting on the Sabbath yourself shows you breaking it also.

Ah, now you are making a burden of the Sabbath as the Jews of old did in Christ's day.

Yes we prepare for it in the preparation day so as much of our time as possible is spent with Him in Spirit.

Back then the farmers had animals to feed and care for and that had to be done and was not breaking the Sabbath.

Christ did things that they in their burden making accused Him of breaking it, but it was not true.

Now a lot less work is done to do the same.

 

[Sophrosyne]

Ah, now you are making a burden of the Sabbath as the Jews of old did in Christ's day.

Yes we prepare for it in the preparation day so as much of our time as possible is spent with Him in Spirit.

Back then the farmers had animals to feed and care for and that had to be done and was not breaking the Sabbath.

Christ did things that they in their burden making accused Him of breaking it, but it was not true.

Now a lot less work is done to do the same.

I'm not doing a thing, the rules state you can't work nor require anyone to work on your behalf on the Sabbath. If you were truly serious about keeping it instead of pretending like the SDA and others here proclaiming we should "keep" such a mockery of the Sabbath as they do why should we take you or them seriously. If anyone knows how to keep the Sabbath I would think a Jew would know..... not you. I seriously doubt any serious Jew who was to seriously keep the Sabbath would but scoff at your effort.

By being online you are contributing to others working on the Sabbath which is breaking it. So it is ok for you to contribute to others breaking the Sabbath by them working but not you working? Oh the hypocrisy.

I'm pretty much done with you here, I can't take your ramblings seriously as even some of the hard core SDA at least don't post here on the Sabbath.

 

[BobRyan]

You changed the subject. ehehehehehawhe Oh an BTW ol' Bob doesn't keep the Sabbath as outlined on the stone tablets.

Making stuff up as you do in that last accusation - is not a compelling form of Bible study - for the objective unbiased reader.

I think we all knew that.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

Ah, now you are making a burden of the Sabbath as the Jews of old did in Christ's day.

Yes we prepare for it in the preparation day so as much of our time as possible is spent with Him in Spirit.

Back then the farmers had animals to feed and care for and that had to be done and was not breaking the Sabbath.

Christ did things that they in their burden making accused Him of breaking it, but it was not true.

Now a lot less work is done to do the same.

Good point. Those at war with Christ our Creator's Sabbath Commandment are the first to try and make it a burden and argue as Christ warned against in Matt 5 the case of trying to get others not to keep the Word of God as stated in His Law.

But in Mark 7:6-13 Christ addresses the issue of trying to get man-made tradition to set aside the Commandment of God which Jesus there calls "The WORD of God"

Pretty much everyone here is aware of Mark 7 by now.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

Galatians chapter 2 verse 21 If righteousness could be gained by the law Christ died for nothing.
Galatians chapter 5 verse 6 The only thing that counts if faith expressing itself in love.

Honoring your Father and Mother (Eph 6:1-2) and Keeping the Commandments of God (1Cor 7:19) including the 4th commandment Heb 4, Rev 14:7 - is not about earning your way to heaven. It is about the New Covenant Heb 8 - where the Law of Jer 31:31-33 is written of the heart and mind.

Real 1 john 5:1-4 and tell me if it fits your doctrine.

1 John 5

Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves Him who begot also loves him who is begotten of Him. 2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. 4 For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith. 5 Who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?

Note in Rev 14:12 the saints are those who "KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus".

I am sure you and I would both agree on that.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[from scratch]

Well that call is up to the LORD the judge but I am of the thinking that Bob fulfills it as God would have him. Bob may have a come back or may have to you on that one already as I notice that is one of your favorite quips.

First off I didn't make an accusation, I stated the observable facts.

I know Bob to be a very honest and a Christian square shooter.

Where did I say he wasn't?

Nothing God desires of us is impossible or galling when it is our love and desire to please Him!

You're right. So why not fully comply?

 

[from scratch]

Ah, now you are making a burden of the Sabbath as the Jews of old did in Christ's day.

Yes we prepare for it in the preparation day so as much of our time as possible is spent with Him in Spirit.

Back then the farmers had animals to feed and care for and that had to be done and was not breaking the Sabbath.

Christ did things that they in their burden making accused Him of breaking it, but it was not true.

Now a lot less work is done to do the same.

Why do you make your beast of burden work on the Sabbath? Is it really because its not a recognizable jack ass or horse?

 

[from scratch]

Making stuff up as you do in that last accusation - is not a compelling form of Bible study - for the objective unbiased reader.

I think we all knew that.

in Christ,

Bob

What exactly did I make up?

 

[Gibs]

I'm not doing a thing, the rules state you can't work nor require anyone to work on your behalf on the Sabbath. If you were truly serious about keeping it instead of pretending like the SDA and others here proclaiming we should "keep" such a mockery of the Sabbath as they do why should we take you or them seriously. If anyone knows how to keep the Sabbath I would think a Jew would know..... not you. I seriously doubt any serious Jew who was to seriously keep the Sabbath would but scoff at your effort.

By being online you are contributing to others working on the Sabbath which is breaking it. So it is ok for you to contribute to others breaking the Sabbath by them working but not you working? Oh the hypocrisy.

I'm pretty much done with you here, I can't take your ramblings seriously as even some of the hard core SDA at least don't post here on the Sabbath.

Dear Sophosyhe,

The necessaries are legal to do in the Sabbath. We have no more necessary legal work to do in the Sabbath than in the beginning. If you were hungry and needed fed I would for sure rustle you up some grub if I had any at all to share, or if your car broke down or you were stuck in a snowdrift I certainly would help you.

I worked as a journeyman electric line man for around 46 yrs. and many times in the Sabbath I put electric back on so folks could live and the livestock fed etc., necessary legal work in the Sabbath. I did the same for the Sunday folks also.

No I am not breaking the Sabbath by being here on the net with you or others anymore than if I stepped outside and talked with a gent in the next house.

Again, you make an unreasonable burden of the Sabbath.

Jesus is our example of keeping Sabbath and He was accused, yes of breaking it by some of the Jews as I am.

 

[Gibs]

Why do you make your beast of burden work on the Sabbath? Is it really because its not a recognizable jack ass or horse?

My ole beast of burden, my vehicle is fed before Sabbath and I don't kick him in the posterior to shop or go to work, none of that stuff, only to go to Church meeting and walking is bad when kicking it is easy, no harder than getting up in the morning and he don't groan or complain under my weight because I am very thin and light.

That is legal in the Sabbath same as getting out your grub that you prepared preparation day.

 

[Gibs]

I really like this short verse from Mark 7:, it says so much and is so concise and can't be twisted to mean otherwise!

Mr 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

Time is now to reckon with that one verse!

 

[from scratch]

My ole beast of burden, my vehicle is fed before Sabbath and I don't kick him in the posterior to shop or go to work, none of that stuff, only to go to Church meeting and walking is bad when kicking it is easy, no harder than getting up in the morning and he don't groan or complain under my weight because I am very thin and light.

That is legal in the Sabbath same as getting out your grub that you prepared preparation day.

Your jack ass eats only when working. Doesn't mater when you put the food out. The deal is your jack ass is working on the Sabbath against a clear thus saith the Lord and written with His very own finger. It doesn't matter how light the load is.

 

[from scratch]

I really like this short verse from Mark 7:, it says so much and is so concise and can't be twisted to mean otherwise!

Mr 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

Time is now to reckon with that one verse!

Who's rejecting the commandment of God? God changed the rules just like He said He would. I didn't say God, Himself changed. I said very clearly the rules were changed just like God promised.

 

[Gibs]

Your jack ass eats only when working. Doesn't mater when you put the food out. The deal is your jack ass is working on the Sabbath against a clear thus saith the Lord and written with His very own finger. It doesn't matter how light the load is.

Ah, Scratch, you see a flesh jack ass eats whether he does anything but pass excrement from eating and it is you who must in the Sabbath feed him.

I know we are not condemned for either, feeding the flesh jack ass or using the mechanical rattle trap jack ass to keep from working harder by walking to Church!

 

[from scratch]

Ah, Scratch, you see a flesh jack ass eats whether he does anything but pass excrement from eating and it is you who must in the Sabbath feed him.

I know we are not condemned for either, feeding the flesh jack ass or using the mechanical rattle trap jack ass to keep from working harder by walking to Church!

According to the law written by the finger of God your mechanical jack ass is forbidden to work on the Sabbath.

 

[Gibs]

Who's rejecting the commandment of God? God changed the rules just like He said He would. I didn't say God, Himself changed. I said very clearly the rules were changed just like God promised.

I have some scriptures here for you and others to ponder,

Joh 1:1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

We see that if God did change any of His Word to us He Himself would be changed!

More, ponder these,

Isa 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
Ps 33:11 The counsel of the LORD standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations.
Ac 5:39 But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.
Heb 6:17 Wherein God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath:
Heb 6:18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:

 

[Gibs]

According to the law written by the finger of God your mechanical jack ass is forbidden to work on the Sabbath.

That would be on the same level as picking up my spoon or fork and making it work to feed me in the Sabbath!

No, that the Spirit of God in me registers, "reject" as Jesus plucked corn in the Sabbath and eat.

Sabbath can be made a burden or found to be a wonderful day of delight to tabernacle with God in the day He hallowed and made Holy, the only day that He set apart in such a way!

 

[BobRyan]

According to the law written by the finger of God your mechanical jack ass ...

What those at war with the Commandments of God claim to know about them is sometimes a puzzle...

My ole beast of burden, my vehicle is fed before Sabbath and I don't kick him in the posterior to shop or go to work, none of that stuff, only to go to Church meeting and walking is bad when kicking it is easy, no harder than getting up in the morning and he don't groan or complain under my weight because I am very thin and light.

That is legal in the Sabbath same as getting out your grub that you prepared preparation day.

Your jack ass eats only when working. Doesn't mater when you put the food out. The deal is your jack ass is working on the Sabbath against a clear thus saith the Lord ....

What those at war with the Commandments of God claim to know about them is sometimes apparent in the language they use.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

I really like this short verse from Mark 7:, it says so much and is so concise and can't be twisted to mean otherwise!

Mr 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

Time is now to reckon with that one verse!

Amen. And for some it is - much-to-be-avoided.

in Christ,

Bob