Important Facts about Evolution

[AV1611VET]

Nope, you are loaded with superstitious beliefs.

Don't worry, your grandkids' grandkids should be free of them.

At least I don't have a picture of Adolf Hitler on my wall.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Says the guy who believes a 5.57byo planet has only existed for 6ky, a Hebrew creation myth involved English speaking characters, and Noah lived in NJ.

4.57 byo planet. Small correction compared to AV's error.

 

[Subduction Zone]

At least I don't have a picture of Adolf Hitler on my wall.

Who does? I guess that would give it away too much if you did that AV

 

[AV1611VET]

Sorry AV, dealing with pleadings of insanity does involve due process and following the legal requirements.

As a clarification, a person can be psychologically unstable, have a form of mental illness and not meet the legal requirements of insanity, which is a higher threshold then plain old psychological issues.

What happened to "crazy" in this conversation, anyway?

You guys are backpedaling so fast, I can't catch up.

 

[HitchSlap]

4.57 byo planet. Small correction compared to AV's error.

Thanks for pointing this out. Will edit.

 

[AV1611VET]

Says the guy who believes a 5.57byo planet has only existed for 6ky, a Hebrew creation myth involved English speaking characters, and Noah lived in NJ.

Well, maybe a Jack Kevorkian of the Cockoo's Nest will ease you guys social dilemma one of these days, eh?

 

[Subduction Zone]

What happened to "crazy" in this conversation, anyway?

You guys are backpedaling so fast, I can't catch up.

"Crazy" is a slang term. It is not a legal term. A person may be both legally sane, i.e. knowing the difference between right and wrong, and still be crazy. No back pedaling necessary.

 

[RickG]

At least I don't have a picture of Adolf Hitler on my wall.

The only one I've seen here on the CF was by a creationist.

 

[HitchSlap]

Well, maybe a Jack Kevorkian of the Cockoo's Nest will ease you guys social dilemma one of these days, eh?

I have no idea what you're even trying to say here.

 

[AV1611VET]

And once again typical creationist hypocrisy shines through. You are enjoying the benefits of civilized society while deriding some of the costs of it.

Yes, even though you may not like it due process is sometimes a necessary "evil" (and it really is not evil, it only delays justice in some cases).

Did the Auca Indians put your "crazy martyrs" through due process?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Well, maybe a Jack Kevorkian of the Cockoo's Nest will ease you guys social dilemma one of these days, eh?

What social dilemma?

 

[HitchSlap]

Did the Auca Indians put your "crazy martyrs" through due process?

Right. Because it's perfectly reasonable to invade someone's home and impose your way of life and beliefs on others ... so long as it's in Jebus' name?

 

[AV1611VET]

"Crazy" is a slang term.

"Martyr" isn't though -- despite what you may think.

 

[Subduction Zone]

"Martyr" isn't though -- despite what you may think.

I never came even close to saying it was.

Nice attempt at a strawman argument.

 

[AV1611VET]

I never came even close to saying it was.

Nice attempt at a strawman argument.

So I take it, if Salman Rushdie dies of old age, he's okay.

But if Ayatollah's bountry hunters catch up to him, then he will be made "crazy" ... right?

 

[Split Rock]

It's always interesting how those who use the Bible in the same sentence as "men" almost always feel the need to add the qualifier "fallible."

Hmmm... I haven't noticed it being popular to do so.. I think of myself as a "trend-setter" in this regard. LOL. The reason I like to add the adjective "fallible" is because creationists normally present the bible as infallible divine revelation. If it has been touched by man, it is most certainly not infallible. That is my point.

Is there a subset of mankind, known as "infallible men"?

No there is not, buddy.... and that is precisely my point. The writing, translation and interpretation of scripture is no more infallible than the scientific process is. This is why I take assertions of infallible divine revelation with a "grain of salt," as you like to say.

 

[Split Rock]

What was the Force used in evolution?

The impetus is imperfect replication of DNA, reproduction and selection. Not sure what you mean by "force."

 

[toolmanjantzi]

The Bible has hundreds of errors in it, what have you been smoking?

Obviously not enough. Your theology has errors not the bible. First example of that is the fact you think I can tell you anything to make you a believer; yet at the same time you believe your disbelief is due to your wisdom.

1 Corinthians 1:27 (KJV) But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

 

[toolmanjantzi]

Physics? What are you nattering about now?

Define "Nattering".

 

[toolmanjantzi]

I don't understand. Evolution is a natural process. How is any force involved? Dizredux

Natural? Planets with life on them are made everyday? That's your idea of natural.