Sabbath was made for man

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Who was Adam's neighbor in the garden?




okay.

Adam had a neighbor? Really? Who?

 

[lightofredemption]

Jesus is the Sabbath and the fulfillment of the day given as a sign of His Rest

 

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Jesus is the Sabbath and the fulfillment of the day given as a sign of His Rest

And welcome to CF.

 

[Elder 111]

Jesus is the Sabbath and the fulfillment of the day given as a sign of His Rest

So Jesus was made for man? Mark 2:27.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

So Jesus was made for man? Mark 2:27.

He was sent to show the common Jews how to correctly keep the sabbath, since the Judean rulers weren't........

Lazarus and the Rich Man - Here a little, there a little - Commentary
JESUS VS THE LAWLESS JUDEAN RULERS

Mat 12:5
'Or did ye not read in the Law, that on the sabbaths the priests in the temple do profane the sabbath, and are blameless?

Revelation 14:11
And the smoke of the tormenting of them is ascending into Ages to-Ages.......... [Luke 16:24,26]


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[BobRyan]

Originally Posted by lightofredemption

Jesus is the Sabbath and the fulfillment of the day given as a sign of His Rest
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So Jesus was made for man? Mark 2:27.

Jesus never said "I am the Sabbath".

Jesus did call the Commandments of God "the Word of God" in Mark 7:6-13 and condemn the religious leaders that sought to set aside one of God's Commandments.

How nice then - that we have the choice of going with Christ actually said - as our belief... our doctrine.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

Adam had a neighbor? Really? Who?

Starts with "E"

Ends with an "e"

Has a "v" in the middle of the name -- (at least in English)

 

[Cribstyl]

Originally Posted by lightofredemption

Jesus is the Sabbath and the fulfillment of the day given as a sign of His Rest

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Jesus never said "I am the Sabbath".

Jesus did call the Commandments of God "the Word of God" in Mark 7:6-13 and condemn the religious leaders that sought to set aside one of God's Commandments.

How nice then - that we have the choice of going with Christ actually said - as our belief... our doctrine.

in Christ,

Bob

If Jesus did say:
Mat 11:28
Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Mat 11:29
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.


The Sabbath was a sign of the rest we find by believing in Christ.

Heb 3:18
And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
Heb 3:19
So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

 

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Starts with "E"

Ends with an "e"

Has a "v" in the middle of the name -- (at least in English)

Do you really mean my single neighbor lady is really my wife? Interesting indeed.

 

[Sophrosyne]

Thanks but no thanks. I'll stick to the Bible, thank you. I believe what it says and there isn't room for or evidence that the Sabbath was made for mankind.

One could contend that if one were only existing in the flesh (mankind) then the Sabbath would apply. Christians are spiritual so we are ALSO spiritkind thus the Sabbath is no longer applicable when one denies the flesh (mankind) one denies the Sabbath. The Lord of the Sabbath took possession of it for all those who are in him we have no need of it.

 

[BobRyan]

There is nothing moral about the sabbath. (resting 1/7 days)

1. someone said "there is nothing moral about eating an apple from this tree or that tree".

We all saw how well that argument played out. Too late to revisit that idea as if the result were not already "in".

2. Christ said "The Sabbath was made for mankind" Mark 2:27 -- of course not everyone believes Him on that point

3. God said "the Seventh day is The Sabbath of the Lord Thy God" not "A day in seven is Your sabbath". God said "Tomorrow is THE Sabbath" Exodus 20 not "pick any day you like".

And of course - we all knew that.

in Christ,

Bob

 

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1. someone said "there is nothing moral about eating an apple from this tree or that tree".

We all saw how well that argument played out. Too late to revisit that idea as if the result were not already "in".

2. Christ said "The Sabbath was made for mankind" Mark 2:27 -- of course not everyone believes Him on that point

3. God said "the Seventh day is The Sabbath of the Lord Thy God" not "A day in seven is Your sabbath". God said "Tomorrow is THE Sabbath" Exodus 20 not "pick any day you like".

And of course - we all knew that.

in Christ,

Bob

Then Moses must be a liar.

 

[Elder 111]

One could contend that if one were only existing in the flesh (mankind) then the Sabbath would apply. Christians are spiritual so we are ALSO spiritkind thus the Sabbath is no longer applicable when one denies the flesh (mankind) one denies the Sabbath. The Lord of the Sabbath took possession of it for all those who are in him we have no need of it.

Where this Christians are spiritual come from? Prove that!

 

[BobRyan]

There is nothing moral about the sabbath. (resting 1/7 days)

1. someone said "there is nothing moral about eating an apple from this tree or that tree".

We all saw how well that argument played out. Too late to revisit that idea as if the result were not already "in".

2. Christ said "The Sabbath was made for mankind" Mark 2:27 -- of course not everyone believes Him on that point

3. God said "the Seventh day is The Sabbath of the Lord Thy God" not "A day in seven is Your sabbath". God said "Tomorrow is THE Sabbath" Exodus 20 not "pick any day you like".

And of course - we all knew that.

And of course the much-anticpated made-up fiction that will be brought in response to -- "God said "Tomorrow is THE Sabbath" Exodus 20 not "pick any day you like"."

Then Moses must be a liar.

Apparently - attacks against the Law of God must resort to some sort of fiction to make their case appear to stand. To each his own.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[mercy1061]

If Jesus did say:
Mat 11:28
Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Mat 11:29
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.


The Sabbath was a sign of the rest we find by believing in Christ.

Heb 3:18
And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
Heb 3:19
So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

When Yeshua promised rest, who was he speaking to? When Moses gave the law who was he talking to?

 

[Sophrosyne]

Where this Christians are spiritual come from? Prove that!

Galatians 3:2 This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?

Galatians 3:5 So then, does He who provides you with the Spirit and works miracles among you, do it by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?

Romans 8:4 so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death.

Romans 7:6 But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.

Galatians 5:18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law.

 

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Where this Christians are spiritual come from? Prove that!

You're only arguing to be arguing here. You believe the law is spiritual and in spiritual Israel.

 

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And of course the much-anticpated made-up fiction that will be brought in response to -- "God said "Tomorrow is THE Sabbath" Exodus 20 not "pick any day you like"."




Apparently - attacks against the Law of God must resort to some sort of fiction to make their case appear to stand. To each his own.

in Christ,

Bob

Are you saying that the Book of the Law and the prophets are works of fiction? I thought that is exactly what your doctrines are based on. Those doctrines are supported by the work of fiction called the Bible.

 

[VictorC]

Apparently - attacks against the Law of God must resort to some sort of fiction to make their case appear to stand.

I remind you that BobRyan and his Adventist fellows are the ones campaigning against the Law of God every time you contradict its testimony. On the other hand, affirming the reliability of its testimony as the Apostle Paul did will lead you out of the SDA church, as it has an overwhelming number of former Adventists who leave over doctrinal disparities they can't reconcile with the Bible.

 

[Cribstyl]

1. someone said "there is nothing moral about eating an apple from this tree or that tree".
We all saw how well that argument played out. Too late to revisit that idea as if the result were not already "in".

Are you saying that eating an apple from a tree has to do with morality? It does not. Would you qualify Abraham to sacrifice of Isaac a moral a moral commandment too? Whatever is not of faith is sin. Was it moral for Rahab to lie?

2. Christ said "The Sabbath was made for mankind" Mark 2:27 -- of course not everyone believes Him on that point

First off, Jesus said: "Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath". The point Jesus was making is: man is not to be enslaved by the Sabbath, but the Sabbath is for man benefit. The idea to insert 'mankind' is to support a false doctrine.

It is also a significant point that Jesus was responding only to the Pharisees who accused Him of breaking the Sabbath. They did not believe on Him at all.

3. God said "the Seventh day is The Sabbath of the Lord Thy God" not "A day in seven is Your sabbath". God said "Tomorrow is THE Sabbath" Exodus 20 not "pick any day you like".

You'll get no argument from me that the seventh day is the Sabbath.........
Was it not Moses who said:
Exo 16:23
And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.