My rock challenge

[Delphiki]

Yes ... your imagination thread pwns the Bible timeline.

(In your mind.)

Just as the bible pwns deep time in your mind. Still no difference here. What's your point?

 

[Loudmouth]

Physical age - existential age = embedded age.

Physical age - stuff you make up = physical age

 

[Delphiki]

Off topic, but while we're doing silly math...

Non-creepy ages in a relationship formula

Y > 7 + X/2

 

[theophilus777]

No AV. With the embedded age argument shows us that God wants us to believe in evolution whether real or not. You can't have it both ways.

Why an embedded age? Why a fossil record in that embedded age that demonstrates evolution?

I still want to know if AV's embedded age applies to fossils, and if so, how so. He gave us a clear timeline of creation w/ embedded age, fall, then fossils.

 

[RickG]

I still want to know if AV's embedded age applies to fossils, and if so, how so. He gave us a clear timeline of creation w/ embedded age, fall, then fossils.

That's the difficult part he can't explain and I finally think he realizes the hole he has dug for himself with embedded age. I don't know why he wants to put the fossil record after the fall if it is embedded.

 

[theophilus777]

That's the difficult part he can't explain and I finally think he realizes the hole he has dug for himself with embedded age. I don't know why he wants to put the fossil record after the fall if it is embedded.

Fossils. Embedded. Ha-ha!

 

[Loudmouth]

I still want to know if AV's embedded age applies to fossils, and if so, how so. He gave us a clear timeline of creation w/ embedded age, fall, then fossils.

He has proclaimed that he will not talk about anything after the creation week.

 

[theophilus777]

Man was created in the 6th day. Jesus rose in the 8th day. So the fossils were embedded ... when God wasn't looking, as He rested on the 7th day?

I see you provided pictorial evidence of the fossils being embedded; Johnny on the spot with the evidence, you are.

 

[PsychoSarah]

Man was created in the 6th day. Jesus rose in the 8th day. So the fossils were embedded ... when God wasn't looking, as He rested on the 7th day?

I see you provided pictorial evidence of the fossils being embedded; Johnny on the spot with the evidence, you are.

If god is all knowing, how would it possibly miss any event?

 

[Kylie]

Then you're quote-mining a term I use.

What is the difference between age and embedded age?

I submit that you not knowing the difference is where your problem lies.

it's nonsense.

Of course, if you feel you can describe it in a meaningful way, you go right ahead.

 

[AV1611VET]

Of course, if you feel you can describe it in a meaningful way, you go right ahead.

No, thanks.

Whether I can or not, it doesn't excuse this doosey of a mistake:

No, according to you, it is 6000 years old.

 

[EternalDragon]

Age is what we measure. Embedded age is a fantasy you dreamt up in order to ignore the facts.

Really? "Age is what we measure"? I thought "they" measured isotope ratios.

Age is something that is assumed based on starting ratios that are also assumed.

 

[DogmaHunter]

No, thanks.

Whether I can or not, it doesn't excuse this doosey of a mistake:

Wrong.

Embedded age implies that a thing is really younger then it looks.

If Shiva creates a human being from scratch and builds it to look like a 30 year old male, then that human would have an embedded age of 30 years, but his actual age would be just a few seconds.

An interesting question is "how would we know?".

Suppose that a god created everything in current form only 10 minutes ago with embedded age and with all are memories embedded in our brains... how could we ever know?

How do you know?

Ow, that's right.... you forfaited your reasoning skills with that sentence in your signature. You just assume and consider it real. Right....

 

[pgp_protector]

No, thanks.

Whether I can or not, it doesn't excuse this doosey of a mistake:

Mistake?
About How. Any times has the Earth orbited the Sun?

 

[AV1611VET]

Wrong.

Not.

Embedded age implies that a thing is really younger then it looks.

No.

Can God create a shirt tomorrow so old it falls apart with age?

If Shiva creates a human being from scratch and builds it to look like a 30 year old male,

"Look like" is where you're getting confused.

Adam "looked like" he was 30 years old, because Adam "was" 30 years old.

... then that human would have an embedded age of 30 years, but his actual age would be just a few seconds.

You're saying he would have an embedded age of 30 because he "looks like" he's 30, and that's not what embedded age is.

Again, Adam looks like he is 30 because he is 30.

An interesting question is "how would we know?".

You would know by subtracting his physical age (30) by his existential age (0) and the difference (30) would be his embedded age.

Suppose that a god created everything in current form only 10 minutes ago with embedded age and with all are memories embedded in our brains... how could we ever know?

That would be Last Thursdaysim.

How do you know?

Ow, that's right.... you forfaited your reasoning skills with that sentence in your signature. You just assume and consider it real. Right....

And you forfeited your reasoning skills with this post.

 

[AV1611VET]

Mistake?

Yes, mistake.

About How. Any times has the Earth orbited the Sun?

This 4.57 billion year old earth has orbited the sun about 6000 times.

 

[Herman Hedning]

Yes, mistake.

This 4.57 billion year old earth has orbited the sun about 6000 times.

Doesn't it have embedded orbits then?

 

[NannaNae]

I create two rocks ex nihilo. I create one with two million years of embedded age and the other with none.

When you study them, your analysis shows that one rock is new and the other rock is old, despite the fact they are both the same age.

Am I being deceptive in making it look like one rock is older than the other?

ok so I got a question for you !

since you brought it up.. please tell us what would it take to make a young rock look like it had
"Embedded age" ? right there in those laws lies the secret to appearances.
and how appearance can be complete lies.

why don't they explain eyewitnesses and recorded history first? why did their fables start billions of years ago ? but they can't tell you about 3200 years ago?. or 2000 years ago? or 2800 years ago? or 4300 years ago .

but they pretend to tell you about billions and billions of years ago with completely 'indisputable' certainty they claim and teach that as facts to little children.

 

[RickG]

Really? "Age is what we measure"? I thought "they" measured isotope ratios.

Age is something that is assumed based on starting ratios that are also assumed.

No assumptions EternalDragon. Assumptions in science, especially dating methods are based on repeatable results, pretty much like you know the sun is going to rise every day. We not only see it happen, we observe how it happens.

May I ask why you criticize something you appear to know little if anything about?

 

[AV1611VET]

Doesn't it have embedded orbits then?

If I was a Day Ager, instead of an Embedded Ager, and believed that the days in Genesis 1 were eons of time, I would say the earth was created six eons ago, but has only gone around the sun two eons, since the sun wasn't created until the fourth eon.