US swaps 5 Gitmo prisoners for US soldiers release, but many questions remain

[theophilus777]

You're the one whom is trying to argue over semantics.


In any case:
Soldier: We Were Told To ‘Keep Quiet’ About Bergdahl Leaving Afghan Base « CBS DC

I think that adds even more to this latest Obama Scandal.

Holy cow! Yes, it adds a lot more. I smell a rat, but I only wish I knew where and what it was.

 

[theophilus777]

Again, I ask, if my claim was "false" then who do you think was the government of Afghanistan between '96 and '01?

A band of thugs making a mess out of things does not a legitimate Gov't make.

 

[Armoured]

A band of thugs making a mess out of things does not a legitimate Gov't make.

Doesn't answer my question. Who was the government of Afghanistan between '96 and '01 if not the Taliban?

 

[GarfieldJL]

Getting back on topic, if people would like to see who decided to trade 5 high-ranking terrorists for.

Exclusive: Afghan villagers recall when Bergdahl stumbled into their midst - The Washington Post

 

[Veritas]

You're the one whom is trying to argue over semantics.


In any case:
Soldier: We Were Told To ‘Keep Quiet’ About Bergdahl Leaving Afghan Base « CBS DC

I think that adds even more to this latest Obama Scandal.

Come on, Garfield. These aren't scandals. They're just made up "faux outrage" designed to make Obama look bad. And they're racist......

 

[theophilus777]

Getting back on topic, if people would like to see who decided to trade 5 high-ranking terrorists for.

Exclusive: Afghan villagers recall when Bergdahl stumbled into their midst - The Washington Post

He left in a haze, probably high on hash.

Well lets get him back and into a drug rehab, then.

 

[JustOneWay]

I guess "we leave no soldier behind" is a meaningless phrase.

 

[GarfieldJL]

I guess "we leave no soldier behind" is a meaningless phrase.

Seriously, if the Obama administration honestly thought that, then the Marine that is in a Mexican Prison right now for making a wrong turn on a highway would be back in the United States.

Let's be honest about this, Obama wanted to release these 5 high-ranked terrorists, and he thought this would give him political cover.

 

[Armoured]

Seriously, if the Obama administration honestly thought that, then the Marine that is in a Mexican Prison right now for making a wrong turn on a highway would be back in the United States.

Let's be honest about this, Obama wanted to release these 5 high-ranked terrorists, and he thought this would give him political cover.

Because an off duty guy committing a crime in a foreign country is totally comparable to a PW captured while serving in a war zone.

 

[theophilus777]

I guess "we leave no soldier behind" is a meaningless phrase.

Ever since Nam, yep.

 

[JustOneWay]

Seriously, if the Obama administration honestly thought that, then the Marine that is in a Mexican Prison right now for making a wrong turn on a highway would be back in the United States.

There is flawed logic in this. Negotiations take some time, and we do not know what is going on behind the scenes.

Let's be honest about this, Obama wanted to release these 5 high-ranked terrorists, and he thought this would give him political cover.

More flawed logic. You have an opinion, and that is all it is.

 

[MachZer0]

Because an off duty guy committing a crime in a foreign country is totally comparable to a PW captured while serving in a war zone.

Bergdahl was a hostage, not a PW/POW

 

[Armoured]

Bergdahl was a hostage, not a PW/POW

Either way, still very different to the situation in Mexico.

 

[GarfieldJL]

Because an off duty guy committing a crime in a foreign country is totally comparable to a PW captured while serving in a war zone.

Taking a wrong turn and being unable to turn around, and thus ended up on the US-Mexican border is not a criminal act. The old signs that used to indicate the turns have since been replaced after this story gained national attention.

Or how about that wife of an American citizen whom is slated to be executed for being a Christian in Sudan?

Fact of the matter is, the only thing that was in Obama's calculations was that this would further his political agenda.

 

[MachZer0]

Either way, still very different to the situation in Mexico.

Except you got it backwards. Bergdahl was very likely committing a crime whereas Tahmooressi was not

 

[Armoured]

Taking a wrong turn and being unable to turn around, and thus ended up on the US-Mexican border is not a criminal act. The old signs that used to indicate the turns have since been replaced after this story gained national attention.

Or how about that wife of an American citizen whom is slated to be executed for being a Christian in Sudan?

Fact of the matter is, the only thing that was in Obama's calculations was that this would further his political agenda.

Cherry pick all you like, but neither of those cases are of someone taken prisoner while serving in a warzone. They were both on their own time doing their own thing.

edit: enjoying watching the usual suspects with their mantra of "personal accountability" falling over themselves to excuse the guy in Mexico.

 

[theophilus777]

Cherry pick all you like, but neither of those cases are of someone taken prisoner while serving in a warzone. They were both on their own time doing their own thing.

Sorry, but the guy just traded was NOT on his own time. Apparently he WAS doing his own thing, which is a problem all by itself.

 

[Vylo]

Seriously, if the Obama administration honestly thought that, then the Marine that is in a Mexican Prison right now for making a wrong turn on a highway would be back in the United States.

Let's be honest about this, Obama wanted to release these 5 high-ranked terrorists, and he thought this would give him political cover.

You know they are in talks about that, but when the guy was off duty, him being a marine doesn't mean much. It is the same as if you or me went down there.

 

[Armoured]

Except you got it backwards. Bergdahl was very likely committing a crime whereas Tahmooressi was not

So what? Where is it written that the army's and nation's duty of care to serving personnel doesn't apply if they're accused of a crime?

 

[GarfieldJL]

Cherry pick all you like, but neither of those cases are of someone taken prisoner while serving in a warzone. They were both on their own time doing their own thing.

edit: enjoying watching the usual suspects with their mantra of "personal accountability" falling over themselves to excuse the guy in Mexico.

If you had watched On The Record, you would know just how messed up the roads in the area were...