80,000 Russian troops staged at Ukraine - what now, Obama?

[Jeffwhosoever]

"Ukraine officials yesterday accused Russia of conducting a large military build-up near the country’s border that raises the threat of an invasion.

Andriy Parubiy, secretary of Ukraine’s national security and defence council, said Russia had deployed more than 80,000 troops, up to 270 tanks and 140 combat planes close to the border, creating the “threat of a full-scale invasion from various directions”.

Mr Parubiy said the Russian troops were as close as two or three hours’ drive from Kiev, the Ukrainian capital."

Russia ‘massing 80,000 troops on Ukrainian border’ - The Scotsman

also

"(Reuters) - China's top envoy to Germany has warned the West against punishing Russia with sanctions for its intervention in Ukraine, saying such measures could lead to a dangerous chain reaction that would be difficult to control"

China warns of dangerous Russia sanctions 'spiral' | Reuters

What now, Obama? Still think we need to reduce the size of our Army significantly?

 

[USincognito]

What now, Obama? Still think we need to reduce the size of our Army significantly?

Are you suggesting we go to war with Russia over Crimea?

Also: Ukraine crisis: Angela Merkel accuses Putin of 'stealing' Crimea - Telegraph

 

[iluvatar5150]

Are you suggesting we go to war with Russia over Crimea?

I'd like to know this, too.

 

[nightflight]

Its not our business.

 

[Jeffwhosoever]

I'd like to know this, too.

No, I am not suggesting war, at this time.

 

[iluvatar5150]

No, I am not suggesting war, at this time.

Then what are you suggesting?

 

[Jeffwhosoever]

It's a dangerous situation made worse by Putin's perception that our leadership is weak, and I'm not just talking POTUS. Seeing China back Russia is also troubling. Now is not the time to reduce our Army by tens of thousands of active troops.

 

[USincognito]

It's a dangerous situation made worse by Putin's perception that our leadership is weak, and I'm not just talking POTUS. Seeing China back Russia is also troubling. Now is not the time to reduce our Army by tens of thousands of active troops.

Yeah, it's totally different than in 2008 when Putin invaded - and I mean seriously invaded - Northern Georgia. Back when we had a strong President and a strong leadership position... right?

And what are we going to do with those tens of thousands of active troops? Go to war with Russia over Crimea?

The question remains unanswered.

 

[Boondock_Saint]

Obama has no leverage but continually says he does. It makes sense he shouldn't give away his cards. I will give him that. But making idle threats to Putin is just crazy. This is turning into Obama's Syria blunder all over again.

 

[High Fidelity]

It's a dangerous situation made worse by Putin's perception that our leadership is weak, and I'm not just talking POTUS. Seeing China back Russia is also troubling. Now is not the time to reduce our Army by tens of thousands of active troops.

Why? Neither country is capable of anything remotely threatening to the US outside of nuclear or economic capabilities.

 

[HonestTruth]

Hey Jeff - Bush's army failed to stop Putin when Russia invaded Georgia.

So what's the difference ???

 

[nightflight]

No Russian ever called me cracker.

 

[Bedford]

Hey Jeff - Bush's army failed to stop Putin when Russia invaded Georgia.

So what's the difference ???

THAT'S A TECHNICAL FOUL

We are not allowed to bring up past Presidents and their action/inaction even if it is relevant to the discussion

 

[nightflight]

Funny, the assumption that just because one opposes Obama's policies, that he/she must've been a Bush supporter.

Guess that binary thinking works for some.

 

[Bedford]

Funny, the assumption that just because one opposes Obama's policies, that he/she must've been a Bush supporter.

Guess that binary thinking works for some.

Funnier is that nobody here assumed that another has to be a Bush supporter.

 

[Forest Wolf]

If this horrible situation has to occur, I'd rather read about it than read our troops are being dispatched to get into it.
It's not our business.

 

[Forest Wolf]

No Russian ever called me cracker.

A Russian called me cracker once.
Actually, he called me Saltine.

Which was a real bummer because I thought I'd at least be confused with putting on the Ritz.

Levity! Har har!

 

[nightflight]

Funnier is that nobody here assumed that another has to be a Bush supporter.

Then why bring up Bush? Why not bring up, say, Carter and ask why he didn't stop the Soviets from invading Afghanistan?

Why bring up Bush?

 

[dogs4thewin]

Yeah, it's totally different than in 2008 when Putin invaded - and I mean seriously invaded - Northern Georgia. Back when we had a strong President and a strong leadership position... right?

And what are we going to do with those tens of thousands of active troops? Go to war with Russia over Crimea?

The question remains unanswered.

I THINK what Jeff is saying is that we need to have those troops should we NEED to go to war at some point not that we declair war right now.

 

[JoyJuice]

It's a dangerous situation made worse by Putin's perception that our leadership is weak, and I'm not just talking POTUS. Seeing China back Russia is also troubling. Now is not the time to reduce our Army by tens of thousands of active troops.

What are you talking about?

No matter what Russian invasions, and there have been quite a few, they don't think about who is or isn't in office.