Jesus never issued a blanket condemnation of judgment, judgeing is not wrong.

[Bluelion]

YES IT IS!!! lol


Are you saying that I'm not a Christian? That is judgmental, you are judging, and you are being a hypocrite. BTW Would you would say the same thing to Stephen? Paul? Or even to Jesus himself? They all judged far more then I ever did. Check out the pic in my signature! Actually both you and Bluelion are MORE JUDGMENTAL then I am! At least I didn't tell you two that you aren't Christians. Here you guys are telling me I am not a Christian because I pointed out your hypocrisy. I pointed out your hypocricy and rebuked the "don't judge" heresy, I didn't say you guys where not Christians. And you two are trying to say you didn't judge me. You two are insinuating I am not a Christian.

READ ACTS 6 AND 7!!!!

You seem to be tempting people to call you not a Christian maybe because that would cause them to break the rules. your judgement shall be measured back to you.That is what is happening, however he was not judging you, he was speaking truth and there is a difference between truth and judgement that is what he was saying, but you keep telling me I have a log in my eye, but your the blind man running around shouting everyone else is blind.

 

[Wearecommandedtojudge]

Thing I hate is lies.

Then stop lying!

Also when people pull one liners from 6 or 7 post and put it all together to make in appear as one single post, well that is just wickedness.

You told me I had no proof that you judged me so I went back to your previous posts and took some of the parts in which you judged

He doesn't want to learn he want people to say yeah your a good judge.

Noooo. I don't want a pat on the back. I am just standing against those who claim judging is wrong especially the hypocrites who say judging is wrong and then proceed to judge people for judging

I never said judging was wrong what i said was we are not to judge using our own reasoning, but we are to use the judgement God has given in the Bible to judge. That way it is God's judgement not ours and as such they can hold up to anything.

Then what was your problem with me and what I said? Why did you protest when I said it was not wrong to judge? Also how is it not judging to tell me I'm not a Christian?

 

[Wearecommandedtojudge]

You seem to be tempting people to call you not a Christian.

You two already did. Also you two are the blind ones. You claim judging is wrong and then not only judge him for judging but then insinuate he isn't a Christian.

If you had been with God you would not have falsely accused me. .

Like I said I didn't falsely accuse you. What I said was the truth. This is a false accusation on your part. Oh and you are judging me, for something I didn't even do no less. Both you and bobberry insinuated that I am not a Christian. I am not going to report either of you two to an admin or mod or whatever as I don't care that you have broken the forum rules by saying that I am not a Christian. I am just telling you that it is extremely wicked. I forgive and like I said I am not going to the admin if you think that is what I am implying. I am not implying any such thing. I didn't ever mean to imply any such thing.

As far as violating the forum rules. The New Testament dose that plenty of times. If you were to copy and paste the NT to this forum it itself would violate those rules many many many times. If Jesus, Paul, or Stephen where members they probably wouldn't be for long. Yes you two did violate the forum rules but I am not reporting you. I care that you two are violating scripture not the rules of this forum.

 

[Alithis]

..methinks we have a past poster ..with anew name and account
with a bone to pick who has returned with battle axe in hand ..

hey ,i sense what i sense ..how would i know lol

 

[Wearecommandedtojudge]

..methinks we have a past poster ..with anew name and account
with a bone to pick who has returned with battle axe in hand ..

No I am not a past poster with a battle axe to grind. Sorry, but you are wrong. I am a new member and am a metaphorical axe who wants to grind this destructive and dangerous "judge not" heresy into powder.

"Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms;" just a little humor

..
hey ,i sense what i sense ..how would i know lol

Your senses are not that attuned yet my young apprentice. - Ben Kenobi

Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. (John 7:24)

 

[Bluelion]

Then stop lying!


You told me I had no proof that you judged me so I went back to your previous posts and took some of the parts in which you judged


Noooo. I don't want a pat on the back. I am just standing against those who claim judging is wrong especially the hypocrites who say judging is wrong and then proceed to judge people for judging



Then what was your problem with me and what I said? Why did you protest when I said it was not wrong to judge? Also how is it not judging to tell me I'm not a Christian?

You don't listen i said from the start we use Gods judgement not our own, however you use your own, so it does not hold up.

If some one said those words you were not a Christian post the quote where the words are said. I challenge you to do so. Like I said you have no proof, you just accuse people.

 

[Wearecommandedtojudge]

If some one said those words you were not a Christian post the quote where the words are said. I challenge you to do so. Like I said you have no proof, you just accuse people.

You two both insinuated that I wasn't a Christian and I already quoted you.

 

[Bluelion]

You two both insinuated that I wasn't a Christian and I already quoted you.

so you admit your lied you said people said those words now you say insinuated, no I did not and It is a subjective response by you.

the quote you are referring to is what Jesus said If God had been with you you would not have falsely judge me, and I told you what i meant by putting that quote, that God was not leading your judgement. The fact you can not seem to stop sinning wildly in your post proves God is not leading you, you have walked out of the light you need to find your way back, which is what people have been trying to help you do.

 

[Legionwrex]

I think everyone should just take a minute to cool off and think before they post. In your anger sin not.

 

[Wearecommandedtojudge]

I think everyone should just take a minute to cool off and think before they post. In your anger sin not.

I didn't post anything here in anger. He didn't anger me. I laughed a few times and did a few facepalms but he did not anger me.

His hypocrisy is ridiculous. He denies doing things he actually did and then accuses me of lying after I quoted him to prove my point. Case in point he just denied insinuating that im not a Christian after he insinuated I was not a Christian and then accused me of lying.

Now he will probably deny accusing me of lying. This is just plain ridiculous.

 

[Wearecommandedtojudge]

 

[Alithis]

No I am not a past poster with a battle axe to grind. Sorry, but you are wrong. I am a new member and am a metaphorical axe who wants to grind this destructive and dangerous "judge not" heresy into powder.

"Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms;" just a little humor


Your senses are not that attuned yet my young apprentice. - Ben Kenobi

Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. (John 7:24)

much remains yet to be seen

in regard to your signature picture .you may be forgetting a most substantial aspect ...
Jesus ,when he was confronted by the accusers and the prostitute said ..he that is WITHOUT sin ..cast the first stone .. you see he knew that woman often got into debt through necessity and that debt was forced out of them and that force often led them into prostitution as a means of paying the debt and (i believe) he knew some of the accusers were the source of that debt and had they forgiven her debt she would not have been forced into her present sinful situation ..

what has that go to do with JESUS whipping the money lenders and c-hangers out of the temple ... ?
well go figure ..they were possibly the ones to whom she owed money also ..they increase debt and force the poor into sinful situations .such is the manner of the wicked and the greedy . AND ...let him who is WITHOUT SIN.. strike with the whip ...
he had every right being that he was without sin....do we?

 

[Bluelion]

I didn't post anything here in anger. He didn't anger me. I laughed a few times and did a few facepalms but he did not anger me.

His hypocrisy is ridiculous. He denies doing things he actually did and then accuses me of lying after I quoted him to prove my point. Case in point he just denied insinuating that im not a Christian after he insinuated I was not a Christian and then accused me of lying.

Now he will probably deny accusing me of lying. This is just plain ridiculous.

This might be News to you but you can not tell a person what they were saying. You can not say i say something unless i in fact directly said it.

That is ok keep accusing me oh great accuser, Jesus said What you do to the least of my Brothers you do to Me. Its not i that judge you but God's judgement He made in the Bible. So you are speaking against God. have fun with that.

 

[98cwitr]

I think it would be good if we acknowledge the difference between judging, and observing. Behavior is observed, and then we place labels on people based on those observed behaviors. Don't miss grace though, for the measure that you judge (not observe), you will be repaid. When you judge, judge yourself also.

 

[Alithis]

the tern ..settle petal . comes to mind

 

[Bluelion]

I think it would be good if we acknowledge the difference between judging, and observing. Behavior is observed, and then we place labels on people based on those observed behaviors. Don't miss grace though, for the measure that you judge (not observe), you will be repaid. When you judge, judge yourself also.

It would be nice if he would admit anything was different than judgment.

I can say i see you are upset, he will said you judged me, no the judgement would be if I said i see you are upset and that is bad, the judgement is it is bad.

Also he won't admit there is a difference between speaking truth and judging. its like he has a blue shirt on, he says I have a black shirt on i say no you have a blue shirt on, he then says you are judging me, and falsely.

But try getting that out of him.

 

[Alithis]

give it time ..as a new poster ..i was at my harshest ..we settle down .slooowwwwwlllyy haha

 

[Bluelion]

give it time ..as a new poster ..i was at my harshest ..we settle down .slooowwwwwlllyy haha

 

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