Adolf Hitler - The World's Most Infamous Creationist

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Wrong, the Bible may be taught in school. It has to be taught correctly.
Many feel that Jesus taught Scripture correctly. You cannot overrule Him.
.... All gods would be equal.
That is the antichrist way. We the believers in God disagree. There is One God, and Him only will we serve and no other gods will we allow to be put before Him.

Them's the new rules. Merry Christmas.
 
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Many feel that Jesus taught Scripture correctly. You cannot overrule Him.

Here is your error. I would be overruling the foolish people. No one could tell for sure whether or not I was overruling Jesus.

That is the antichrist way. We the believers in God disagree. There is One God, and Him only will we serve and no other gods will we allow to be put before Him.

No, that is the American way. You need to study your constitution.

Them's the new rules. Merry Christmas.

What rules? Now we surely cannot go by your errant interpretation, not if we don't want the students breaking into hysterical laughter every ten minutes. How could they learn anything if the were laughing all of the time.
 
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He commands that actually. No one needs man's permission to preach the gospel!

Commands what? It would seem you mean that he commands that we don't teach the gospel in schools. After all he said "render unto Caesar" and when in school the students' time is really the government's time.
 
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If you cannot define it for the general case you cannot define your term.
General case?? What praytell may that be??

And I thought I linked you an article on the term "clade".

Fine, I will do so again:

Clade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Looking at the basis for clades, we do see this..


"
In genetics, the most recent common ancestor (MRCA) of any set of organisms is the most recent individual from which all organisms in the group are directly descended. The term is often applied to human genealogy.
The MRCA of a set of individuals can sometimes be determined by referring to an established pedigree. However, in general, it is impossible to identify the specific MRCA of a large set of individuals, but an estimate of the time at which the MRCA lived can often be given. Such time to MRCA (TMRCA) estimates can be given based on DNA test results and established mutation rates as practiced in genetic genealogy, or by reference to a non-genetic, mathematical model or computer simulation."

Most recent common ancestor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


This is clearly present state mutation rates they are talking about. No matter how you look at it, it is always this belief set in godless dreamer so called sciences.

I have no reason to assume that our present nature and it's mutations represent how things evolved and adapted in the past...where it matters.
 
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Commands what?
Go and preach the gospel in all the world.

We ought to obey God rather than man.

That's what I'm talkin bout.

It would seem you mean that he commands that we don't teach the gospel in schools. After all he said "render unto Caesar" and when in school the students' time is really the government's time.
More importantly the kids are God's! Render unto God the things that are His!
 
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Go and preach the gospel in all the world.

We ought to obey God rather than man.

That's what I'm talkin bout.

More importantly the kids are God's! Render unto God the things that are His!

You keep on making the mistake of assuming that the Bible is the word of God.

With all of the errors in the Bible that is extremely blasphemous.
 
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General case?? What praytell may that be??

The general case is the example I gave you. Where you have group A and group B. In the general case you do not know ahead of time what the species are. If your definition is correct it will work regardless of the two groups chosen.

Looking at the basis for clades, we do see this..


"
In genetics, the most recent common ancestor (MRCA) of any set of organisms is the most recent individual from which all organisms in the group are directly descended. The term is often applied to human genealogy.
The MRCA of a set of individuals can sometimes be determined by referring to an established pedigree. However, in general, it is impossible to identify the specific MRCA of a large set of individuals, but an estimate of the time at which the MRCA lived can often be given. Such time to MRCA (TMRCA) estimates can be given based on DNA test results and established mutation rates as practiced in genetic genealogy, or by reference to a non-genetic, mathematical model or computer simulation."

Most recent common ancestor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


This is clearly present state mutation rates they are talking about. No matter how you look at it, it is always this belief set in godless dreamer so called sciences.

I have no reason to assume that our present nature and it's mutations represent how things evolved and adapted in the past...where it matters.

Sorry, you have given no evidence at all for a "former state". Without evidence you cannot claim anything.

Once again you lose.
 
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The general case is the example I gave you. Where you have group A and group B. In the general case you do not know ahead of time what the species are. If your definition is correct it will work regardless of the two groups chosen.

To apply a rule on current nature animals across the board, one would need to involve, as you do, (in reproduction capabilities for example) processes and things of this nature!

Let's put a stress test on your claim here then.

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So, what could this creature reproduce with!!??

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And this one..?

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Good luck on the test.
 
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To apply a rule on current nature animals across the board, one would need to involve, as you do, (in reproduction capabilities for example) processes and things of this nature!

Let's put a stress test on your claim here then.

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So, what could this creature reproduce with!!??

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And this one..?

bird-fossil.jpg


Good luck on the test.


Go ahead. There are other methods of course besides just reproduction. That was the last choice in my system. Of course a whale could not breed with a mouse. If you have to ask that sort of question then you really have no business playing this game. My system works for animals that are fairly close.

I could have also said that cheetahs and lions cannot breed at all, rather than the dogs and cats example. If there are major structural differences obviously the two would be different species.

Yet you cannot explain with your undefined "kinds" why lions and cheetahs cannot breed, and my definition of "species" works in saying since they cannot breed they are more widely separated than lions and tigers.

That would not be obvious at first glance.
 
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The Nazi's "Positive Christianity" has nothing in common with orthodox Christianity. The Nazis tried to co-opt Christianity and replace it with a cult. It really is a slander against Christians to say that Nazism was a Christian movement.

Positive Christianity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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How could they learn anything if the were laughing all of the time.
You said a mouthful there, Sub!

I've only been saying that here for almost eight years now.

You guys are a PERFECT example.
 
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Who said religions were not divisive? every one a nut job.
As brother Mack Ford is fond of saying:

"I may be a religious nut, but I'm screwed on to the right Bolt!"
 
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We know why it feels 'right', we also know why that feeling isn't telling you the truth.
Psalm 34:8 O taste and see that the LORD is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him.

Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Hebrews 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,


That's an impressive list:

1. once enlightened
2. tasted of the heavenly gift
3. made partakers of the Holy Ghost
4. tasted the good word of God
5. tasted the powers of the world to come

Only a fool would experience all that and turn his back on it because the science bus showed up.

In fact, it would take someone "professing himself to be wise" to pry himself away from all that.
 
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1. once enlightened
2. tasted of the heavenly gift
3. made partakers of the Holy Ghost
4. tasted the good word of God
5. tasted the powers of the world to come

Only a fool would experience all that and turn his back on it because the science bus showed up.

In fact, it would take someone "professing himself to be wise" to pry himself away from all that.

Unless you're willing to provide specific definitions, you've just described the human experience, and it's not unique to Baptists, but experienced by all cultures and societies since recorded history.
 
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Psalm 34:8 O taste and see that the LORD is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him.

Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Hebrews 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,


That's an impressive list:

1. once enlightened
2. tasted of the heavenly gift
3. made partakers of the Holy Ghost
4. tasted the good word of God
5. tasted the powers of the world to come

Only a fool would experience all that and turn his back on it because the science bus showed up.

In fact, it would take someone "professing himself to be wise" to pry himself away from all that.

i know many Hindus that have tasted all of that
 
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