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The Lord's day.

The Lord' s day is Sunday.

  • There is biblical evidence that Sunday is the Lord's day.

  • There is no biblical evidence that Sunday is the Lord's day.

  • I don't care if Sunday is the Lord's day or not.


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re: " Christ rose on the 'eighth' day..."


Mark 16:9 says that it was the first day. There were only seven days in the week. Nowhere does scripture say anything about an eighth day of the week.

LOL! Patristics 101. The day of re-creation (the day of the resurrection), The Lord's day, the eighth day.

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re: " Christ rose on the 'eighth' day..."


Mark 16:9 says that it was the first day. There were only seven days in the week. Nowhere does scripture say anything about an eighth day of the week.
2 Chron 29:17

Now they began on the first day of the first month to sanctify, and on the eighth day of the month came they to the porch of the Lord: so they sanctified the house of the Lord in eight days; and in the sixteenth day of the first month they made an end.

Granted the Bible doesn't promote an 8 day week. Thus the 8th day is the 1st day of the week indicating new beginnings. This is and important aspect of the Bible. I think it is the reason a Jew was to be circumcised on the 8th day after birth. It is when blood first coagulates and can form a scab. Its when Jesus rose form the dead proving new life.
 
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re: "What is the day after the 7th day [of the week]?"

That would be the first day of a new week.
 


re: "Isn't the 8th day and also the first day of the week?"

Using that logic, then the second day of the week would the 9th day, the third day of the week would be the 10th day, the fourth day of the week would be the 11th day, the fifth day of the week would be the 12th day, the sixth day of the week would be the 13th day, the seventh day of the week would be the 14th day, the first day of the new week would be the 15th day, the second day of the new week would be the 16th day, etc., etc., etc.
 
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What? The Seventh day is the day God rested, which makes it the Sabbath of God.
"...the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God:..."
It is written that:
"Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy."
"Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:"

"..."
Why are we, the children {Jhn 13:33, 21:5; Rom 8:16,17,21, 9:8,26,27; Jam 1:1; Rev 7:4, 21:12} of Israel {Hos 11:1; Matt 2:15; Heb 2:10}, to 'keep it {the Sabbath day, the seventh day} holy"? Because we are to follow the command and example of our LORD.
"For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it."
We are to 'keep it holy', because God Himself 'blessed' and 'hallowed' it, even sanctifying it.

Consider the 7,000 year plan of God, and come to understand the Gospel - http://www.christianforums.com/t7790165/

Respectfully,
If I built a car and then gave it to you as a gift. You can call it a gift all you want to, but why do you have trouble distinguishing the car from the gift? The scriptures in Ex20 reinforces that God rested on the seventh day of creation. Creation story is about the works and rest of the creator. Your comments on this issue is suspect.
Yes, It is a fact that God blessed and sanctified the Sabbath for the Children of Israel to keep. We should apply the words of the bible to understanding, not reasoning that may contradicts God's prophets.

According to the bible; It was the first day when God spoke light into existence. It was the second day when God put all the stars in the skies. It was the 6th day when God created man. It was the seventh day when God rested not weekly. If God also rested the 14th, 21st, 28th day what else did He create?

I will address the rest of your post if you we can clarify the first issue.;)
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re: "What is the day after the 7th day [of the week]?"

That would be the first day of a new week.
 


re: "Isn't the 8th day and also the first day of the week?"

Using that logic, then the second day of the week would the 9th day, the third day of the week would be the 10th day, the fourth day of the week would be the 11th day, the fifth day of the week would be the 12th day, the sixth day of the week would be the 13th day, the seventh day of the week would be the 14th day, the first day of the new week would be the 15th day, the second day of the new week would be the 16th day, etc., etc., etc.
I'm not interested in pursuing your logic problem because there is no reference to the 9th day in any form. As I quoted there is mention of the 8th day in more than the verse I quoted to you. There are implications of its use.
 
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re: "Did you miss my 2 Chronicles quote?"

No, I didn't. However, it has nothing to say with regard to referring to the first day of the week as the eighth day.



re: "...there is no reference to the 9th day in any form."

Nor is there any reference in any form which calls the first day of the week the eighth day.
 

re: "As I quoted there is mention of the 8th day in more than the verse I quoted to you. There are implications of its use. "

But absolutely no implications of its use to refer to the first day of the week as the eighth day.
 
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from scratch,

re: "What is the day after the 7th day [of the week]?"

That would be the first day of a new week.

re: "Isn't the 8th day and also the first day of the week?"

Using that logic, then the second day of the week would the 9th day, the third day of the week would be the 10th day, the fourth day of the week would be the 11th day, the fifth day of the week would be the 12th day, the sixth day of the week would be the 13th day, the seventh day of the week would be the 14th day, the first day of the new week would be the 15th day, the second day of the new week would be the 16th day, etc., etc., etc.
Agreed, since the number 8 would generally only appear as a 'monthly' calculation, as in the 8th day of the month, which could be on any day of the numbered week {1-7}, or with circumcision, being counted from the birth of the child, again landing on any day of the week, but a singular {usually} event.

According to scripture there is no such thing as the 8th day of the week, see Gn 2:1-3; Ex 20; Dt 5, and so on. The ogdoad is a gnostic concept, historically demonstrable.

There are passages which speak of an eighth day, but this is not the eighth day of the week, but is generally associated with 1 time event of physical circumcision {Lev 12:3}, which was to happen 8 days after the birth of the male child, and could even be done upon Sabbath {Jhn 7:22}, or some other event, like the bringing of a sacrifice, having nothing to do with a weekly cyclic timetable, but rather timetable based upon a beginning event other than the week {Lev 14}, and thus could land upon any day of the numbered week {1-7}, or a counting from a seasonal sabbath, such as the 8th day from the first seasonal sabbath of booths {Lev 23:36,39; see also Num 29}, which itself was based upon the counting from the phase of the moon, not the numbered days of the week {1-7}.

In the New Testament we see Jesus appearing and meeting with the disciples on several days of the week, for instance:

Jesus met with the disciples at the Mt of Olives before His ascension, which was 10 days before Pentecost {50 days}. No matter how one figures Pentecost, go back ten days {to the fortieth day {40}}, and it is not the same day of the week. So if they are one to figure Pentecost as being upon the first day of the week, ten days prior is not the first day of the week, and if they figure Pentecost was not on the first day of the week, the point is again sustained. Additionally we read that Jesus was seen of them for 40 days, not merely on the first day of the week.
To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God: Acts 1:3
And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. Acts 1:4
Furthermore, we read after Jesus visited with the Disciples on the Road to Emaus, it was coming into the latter evening/night on the first day of the week, and after they found out it was Jesus at the evening meal, those two disciples ran back up to Jerusalem in the dark, which would be the following day according to Biblical time, and Jesus appeared to them, thus on the Second Day of the week:
But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done. Luke 24:21

But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went in to tarry with them. Luke 24:29

And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them, Luke 24:33

And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you. Luke 24:36
Thus it was that we see that even during the first Evening of the Second Day of the Week, Jesus was with them.

The disciples held no great significance to the first day of the week, as some mystical '8th day', or placed it upon any weekly significance, as they met daily in the Temple, praising God {Luk 24:53; Acts 2:46, 5:42, see also Acts 3:2}, even as Jesus met in the temple Daily also before them, even in the last week of his - http://www.christianforums.com/t7790010/

The Sabbath of the Lord {Matt 12:8; Mar 2:28; Luk 6:5; Rev 1:10}, the 7th Day however, was always important to them {Acts 4:24, 13:14-16,42-44, 14:15, 15:21, 16:13, 17:2, 18:4; Heb 4:1-11, Rev 1:10, 10:6, 14:7; &c}, as it always reminded them, as it does to us, of Jesus, their Lord, God and Creator, and the price He paid for our sin{s} {Luk 23:54-56}, which is transgression of the Law of God {1 Jhn 3:4}.

In fact, every single first day of the week text in Scripture proves the 7th Day Sabbath as the culmination of God's created order, just look at the Greek.
 
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Agreed, since the number 8 would generally only appear as a 'monthly' calculation, as in the 8th day of the month, which could be on any day of the numbered week {1-7}, or with circumcision, being counted from the birth of the child, again landing on any day of the week, but a singular {usually} event.

According to scripture there is no such thing as the 8th day of the week, see Gn 2:1-3; Ex 20; Dt 5, and so on. The ogdoad is a gnostic concept, historically demonstrable.

There are passages which speak of an eighth day, but this is not the eighth day of the week, but is generally associated with 1 time event of physical circumcision {Lev 12:3}, which was to happen 8 days after the birth of the male child, and could even be done upon Sabbath {Jhn 7:22}, or some other event, like the bringing of a sacrifice, having nothing to do with a weekly cyclic timetable, but rather timetable based upon a beginning event other than the week {Lev 14}, and thus could land upon any day of the numbered week {1-7}, or a counting from a seasonal sabbath, such as the 8th day from the first seasonal sabbath of booths {Lev 23:36,39; see also Num 29}, which itself was based upon the counting from the phase of the moon, not the numbered days of the week {1-7}.

In the New Testament we see Jesus appearing and meeting with the disciples on several days of the week, for instance:

Jesus met with the disciples at the Mt of Olives before His ascension, which was 10 days before Pentecost {50 days}. No matter how one figures Pentecost, go back ten days {to the fortieth day {40}}, and it is not the same day of the week. So if they are one to figure Pentecost as being upon the first day of the week, ten days prior is not the first day of the week, and if they figure Pentecost was not on the first day of the week, the point is again sustained. Additionally we read that Jesus was seen of them for 40 days, not merely on the first day of the week.
To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God: Acts 1:3
And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. Acts 1:4
Furthermore, we read after Jesus visited with the Disciples on the Road to Emaus, it was coming into the latter evening/night on the first day of the week, and after they found out it was Jesus at the evening meal, those two disciples ran back up to Jerusalem in the dark, which would be the following day according to Biblical time, and Jesus appeared to them, thus on the Second Day of the week:
But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done. Luke 24:21

But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went in to tarry with them. Luke 24:29

And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them, Luke 24:33

And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you. Luke 24:36
Thus it was that we see that even during the first Evening of the Second Day of the Week, Jesus was with them.

The disciples held no great significance to the first day of the week, as some mystical '8th day', or placed it upon any weekly significance, as they met daily in the Temple, praising God {Luk 24:53; Acts 2:46, 5:42, see also Acts 3:2}, even as Jesus met in the temple Daily also before them, even in the last week of his - http://www.christianforums.com/t7790010/

The Sabbath of the Lord {Matt 12:8; Mar 2:28; Luk 6:5; Rev 1:10}, the 7th Day however, was always important to them {Acts 4:24, 13:14-16,42-44, 14:15, 15:21, 16:13, 17:2, 18:4; Heb 4:1-11, Rev 1:10, 10:6, 14:7; &c}, as it always reminded them, as it does to us, of Jesus, their Lord, God and Creator, and the price He paid for our sin{s} {Luk 23:54-56}, which is transgression of the Law of God {1 Jhn 3:4}.

In fact, every single first day of the week text in Scripture proves the 7th Day Sabbath as the culmination of God's created order, just look at the Greek.
Silly. If the week of 7 days starts at 1 what does that make the 8th day of the month? I think it is also the first day of the next week. Our calendar doesn't number every week from 1 to 7. Eight in the Bible is symbolic of a new beginning.
 
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Silly. If the week of 7 days starts at 1 what does that make the 8th day of the month? I think it is also the first day of the next week. Our calendar doesn't number every week from 1 to 7. Eight in the Bible is symbolic of a new beginning.
Where that indicated?
 
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Where that indicated?

From Holy Tradition that you will never find in scripture. Like many other things that someone might want to know about Christianity.


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Eighth day

The Sabbath day is the seventh day, it is the day of rest in this world, the final day of the week. The next day, Sunday, is symbolic of the first day of creation, but also the last day of the Kingdom of God, the eighth day. The first day is also the eighth day, the day beyond the confines of this world, the day which stands for the life of the world to come, the day of the eternal rest of the Kingdom of God.

The number eight has symbolical significance in both Jewish and Christian spiritual tradition in that it signifies more than completion and fullness. Eight signifies the Kingdom of God and the life of the world to come, seven being the number of earthly time.

For Orthodox Christians, Sunday is the day of Christ's resurrection from the dead, the day of God's judgment and victory predicted by the prophets. Sunday inaugurates the presence and the power of the "kingdom to come", already within the life of this present world. It is a weekly celebration of Pascha.

There we have it... not from scripture, but from Patristics and liturgics.

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From Holy Tradition that you will never find in scripture. Like many other things that someone might want to know about Christianity.


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Lord's Day - OrthodoxWiki



There we have it... not from scripture, but from Patristics and liturgics.

God be gracious to me a sinner.
Jesus rejected tradition. I will too.
 
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