No new Mosques?

[BruceDLimber]

Islam is the ONLY religion God sent to ALL HIS PROPHETS to teach all their followers.

UNLESS, of course, you stipulate the existence of the Baha'i Faith!

Peace,

Bruce

 

[LoAmmi]

Do you believe it is right to expel people from their homes simply because of their religion? As a Palestinian, I thought you would be able to see the wrong in displacing people from their homes.

If you substitute "Muslims" in place of people in the sentence above, I think you'd be getting closer to his true feelings.

 

[Zoness]

Iam surprised ! you seem to be knowledgable enough to not make such accusations.

Iam sure you mean the lack of not having churches in Saudi Arabia.
this is officialy true but the Saudis have nothing to do with it. the Arabian Penensula is the most special area in the world because it is the cradle of Islam , and it must remain so because the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “Expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula.” And according to another version he said: “Expel the mushrikeen (polytheists).”

but there are hundreds of thousands of non-Muslims who work there and have their own worshipping places privately.

if they do not like this why are they there?

besides, hundred of churches in the world are being abanded by Christians, so why Saudia Arabia?

So your logic basically boils down to "well our religion said we can kick people out". Nice. I'm sure loads of people want to leave but simply cannot afford it or have nowhere to go. I doubt every Saudi citizen stays in Saudi Arabia of his or her own will.

That would make sense as long as they are not using city taxes to build churches either.

I agree. No tax dollars should be used to build religious facilities.

 

[Lukaris]

I hate to burst your bubbles , but can you tell us the reason behind their decision?

9:32. They (the disbelievers, the Jews and the Christians) want to extinguish Allah's Light (with which Muhammad has been sent - Islamic Monotheism) with their mouths, but Allah will not allow except that His Light should be perfected even though the Kafirun (disbelievers) hate (it). 33. It is He Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad ) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it superior over all religions even though the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) hate (it).

Denying building permits may be a sign of weekness & discrimination but so is jailing people for freedom of religion:


Iranians jailed for ‘house church’ attendance

Published: October 30, 2013
Christians lose appeals against incarceration for meeting together to pray



Iranians jailed for ‘house church’ attendance

Such a tolerant & non hypocritical religion....joke...

 

[sunrise0]

This is a sample of why Islam is growing


I had NO choice except to convert to Islam!! - YouTube

 

[sunrise0]

and here is another sample


WHY I was forced to leave CHRISTIANITY and convert to Islam - YouTube

 

[smaneck]

So your logic basically boils down to "well our religion said we can kick people out". Nice. I'm sure loads of people want to leave but simply cannot afford it or have nowhere to go. I doubt every Saudi citizen stays in Saudi Arabia of his or her own will.

Christians are nearly all guest workers in Saudi Arabia, not citizens.

 

[All Englands Skies]

Iam surprised ! you seem to be knowledgable enough to not make such accusations.

Iam sure you mean the lack of not having churches in Saudi Arabia.
this is officialy true but the Saudis have nothing to do with it. the Arabian Penensula is the most special area in the world because it is the cradle of Islam , and it must remain so because the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “Expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula.” And according to another version he said: “Expel the mushrikeen (polytheists).”

but there are hundreds of thousands of non-Muslims who work there and have their own worshipping places privately.

if they do not like this why are they there?

besides, hundred of churches in the world are being abanded by Christians, so why Saudia Arabia?

Your post is just justifying the typical muslim mindset of its "fine if we do it, but unacceptable for them to do it"

If Muslims dont like the rules in Moscow, move to another city then and if they do live in moscow, they can worship in private.

I am sorry to put this bluntely, but are you really than braindead you actually cant see any hypocrisy in what your saying.

Your basically stating its right for Saudis to do it, but wrong for Moscow to do the same thing!!!!!

 

[All Englands Skies]

If Muhammad forbade the building of churches and synagogues in the Arabian Peninsula and called on the Christians and Jews in them to be expelled, he was no better than those who forbid mosques to be built in Moscow.

Do you believe it is right to expel people from their homes simply because of their religion? As a Palestinian, I thought you would be able to see the wrong in displacing people from their homes.

Christians and other non-Muslims in Saudi Arabia are "allowed" to worship privately, as long as they hide their faith. Yet Saudi Arabia gets offended when France bans the hijab, a symbol of faith for Muslim women, to be worn in public.

Would you support a European country forcing Muslims to practice their faith only in secret, or one that decided to expel all of its Muslims?

People leaving churches is irrelevant to the discussion. People leave Islam too. That does not make expulsions or religious discrimination against either Christians or Muslims being alright.

You wont reason with him, logic doesnt apply to Muslims like him, basically "Muslims are always right", thats it, its the only brain wave they know. He basically thinks we should be happy with them denying our rights, as part of "Respecting their religion" is to allow them to deny rights to members of our faith, them "respecting our religion" is allowing us to know we're inferior to them.

Also what is with all the Muslim propoganda with nothing to do with the discussion hes posting?

Since is when denying the rights of places of worship have bearing on people who convert to Islam, its irrelevent to the point of this thread?

 

[simplegifts]

This is a sample of why Islam is growing


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It is interesting to note how many Muslims are leaving Islam but can say nothing about it because of fear of death. Many are secretly meeting in home Churches all over the Middle East. With Bibles are secretly shipped into places where none are allowed.

For all you Know the Muslim next to you at Mosque is a Christian inwardly praying the Our Father in his mind while going through the motions of Muslims prayer.

Muslims have left Islam because of dreams of Jesus, visions and revelations of God's word.

 

[smaneck]

Muslims have left Islam because of dreams of Jesus, visions and revelations of God's word.

Gee, that's the same way many Christians have become Baha'is.

 

[simplegifts]

this come from Moscow

No new mosques for Moscow, says mayor | Islam | World Bulletin

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A real good reason to allow no more mosques:
Premature bomb blast kills 7 Taliban militants - WORLD - Globaltimes.cn

Premature bomb blast kills 7 Taliban militants
Xinhua | 2013-11-23
By Agencies

Seven Taliban militants were killed as their explosive device went off prematurely in the eastern Nangarhar province on Friday night, Interior Ministry said in a statement on Saturday.

"Seven Taliban terrorists were busy in making mines inside a mosque in Shirzad district of the eastern Nangarhar province last night to plant on the roads and target security personnel but their device exploded accidentally killing all the seven on the spot," the statement released here added.

Taliban militants fighting the government and largely relying on suicide and roadside bombings have yet to make comment.

 

[Zoness]

It is interesting to note how many Muslims are leaving Islam but can say nothing about it because of fear of death. Many are secretly meeting in home Churches all over the Middle East. With Bibles are secretly shipped into places where none are allowed.

For all you Know the Muslim next to you at Mosque is a Christian inwardly praying the Our Father in his mind while going through the motions of Muslims prayer.

Muslims have left Islam because of dreams of Jesus, visions and revelations of God's word.

This might be true in some amount but I'm sure there are many Muslims that left Islam because if they're anything like me well....why even trust religion? I sort of just had a moment one day where I simply didn't believe; either the man at the pulpit was lying to me or more likely he honestly believed what he was saying and I did not.

I'm sure there are many, many irreligious (not necessarily Atheists) Muslims hiding in the general population of Islam. Not that you'll ever get an accurate poll, what with the violence against apostates and all.

 

[kenzo0]

And you posted this to demonstrate that the Russians have no respect for freedom of religion?

don't underestimate, sist..


I glad to see you again, after your absents.
here we go..
I presented for you from Angola (note:dont underestimate Russia, because you will find other country do the same. ok)
source: World Muslims Condemn Angola Islam Ban - Africa - News - OnIslam.net

CAIRO – A leading Muslim organization has vigorously condemned Angola’s move to ban Islam in its land and prohibit Muslims from worshipping in their mosques, calling on the United Nation to protect the rights of the religious minority to practice their religion freely.
“The International Union for Muslim Scholars (IUMS) widely condemns this decision which contradicts with simplest human rights of social security and freedom of religion,” the IUMS said in a statement obtained by OnIslam.net on Monday, November 25.
“The move contradicts with tolerance and peaceful coexistence, especially in Africa where more than 50% of the population are Muslims,” the Union added.
Several African and Angolan newspapers and news agencies have reported that Angola has banned Islam in its country, in a very unprecedented step taken by a country against one of the Abrahamic faiths.
Taking first measures on ground, the Angolan authorities moved to destroy mosques in the country, including a mosque in the urban municipality of Viana, Luanda which was destroyed on last October 17.
Several Angolan officials have also asserted that Muslims were not welcome in Angola and that the government would not legalize the presence of mosques in the country.
Rejecting the intolerant move, the IUMS called on Angola to withdraw its decision, urging moves at the UN, African Union to condemn the unprecedented decision.
“The Union urged the Angolan authorities to relinquish this unjust decision, be tolerant with the peaceful Muslim minority and not to confuse Islam and terrorism,” the statement said.
The union has urged international bodies to interfere immediately to alleviate the suffering of Angolan Muslims.
“The IUMS also calls on the United Nations and its specialized agencies in human rights, freedom of belief and religion, freedom of opinion and the minorities’ religious and cultural rights to interfere immediately to support Angola Muslim minority and defend its tight to practice its religion,” it said.
“The Union calls on the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, the African Union and other international and regional organizations concerned with rights, freedoms , world peace and coexistence to intervene urgently with the Angolan government to reverse this unjust decision.”

will be back

 

[Serendipity..]

Because the Russian orthodox church and the government are closely linked could be one reason.

part of me thinks is a good idea because where islam appears these days trouble starts and you don't want to encourage it. Any religion whose holy book recommends beheading unbelievers should be opposed to some degree.

 

[simplegifts]

This might be true in some amount but I'm sure there are many Muslims that left Islam because if they're anything like me well....why even trust religion? I sort of just had a moment one day where I simply didn't believe; either the man at the pulpit was lying to me or more likely he honestly believed what he was saying and I did not.

I'm sure there are many, many irreligious (not necessarily Atheists) Muslims hiding in the general population of Islam. Not that you'll ever get an accurate poll, what with the violence against apostates and all.

Absolutely on all points.

 

[smaneck]

Any religion whose holy book recommends beheading unbelievers should be opposed to some degree.

Except the Qur'an does not recommend beheading unbelievers.

 

[smaneck]

A real good reason to allow no more mosques:
Premature bomb blast kills 7 Taliban militants - WORLD - Globaltimes.cn

Premature bomb blast kills 7 Taliban militants

The fact there are Taliban militants in Afghanistan justifies banning the world's second largest religion?

And you want to persuade me Christianity is less violent?

 

[Lukaris]

The fact there are Taliban militants in Afghanistan justifies banning the world's second largest religion?

And you want to persuade me Christianity is less violent?

Moscow (not the Russian nation) is being discriminatory & not banning anything; this is wrong but pales in comparison to what Christians & other non adherents to the alleged religion of peace undergo in sharia nations. There are also false reports of the religion of peace being banned like in Angola: Angola Denies It Banned Islam, Destroyed Mosques

What any of this has to do with Christianity being violent is beyond me. Although I suppose that some crusade from 600 years ago or more is ranked alongside some jihadist terror bombing from 6 hours ago as equal proof of being violent.

 

[dazed]

Moscow (not the Russian nation) is being discriminatory & not banning anything; this is wrong but pales in comparison to what Christians & other non adherents to the alleged religion of peace undergo in sharia nations. There are also false reports of the religion of peace being banned like in Angola: Angola Denies It Banned Islam, Destroyed Mosques

What any of this has to do with Christianity being violent is beyond me. Although I suppose that some crusade from 600 years ago or more is ranked alongside some jihadist terror bombing from 6 hours ago as equal proof of being violent.

The Islamophiles want equal destruction time for the Muslims.