The Lord's day.

[Frogster]

I can't decide if that represents a misreading of the Biblical passage or if, instead, it's a misreading of the question of the thread.

why?

 

[spiritandtruth2]

Most of us christians accept without question that this refers to Sunday. I was listening to Kay Arthur of Precept Ministries sometime ago and she said that it meant Sunday and that she would give the evidence for it, but I never heard her evidence.
It there any biblical support for assuming that the Lord's day is Sunday? I have seen none, not one!
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The Lord's Day is his Thousand Year Reign Read Revelation 20:1-3

One day is a Thousand years in God's eyes.

2 Peter 3:8

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Nothing to do with A Sunday.

 

[JohnRabbit]

The Lord's Day is his Thousand Year Reign Read Revelation 20:1-3

One day is a Thousand years in God's eyes.

2 Peter 3:8

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Nothing to do with A Sunday.

 

[pshun2404]

That day referred to as "the Lord's day" is the day of His resurrection from the dead (which was a 1st day following a 7th day Sabbath)..."Sunday" or the day of the Sun, had nothing to do with it and would not have even entered the minds of the Apostles as they had no frame of reference for it. The Feast of First Fruits always falls on a 1st day (which is also an 8th day).

 

[JohnRabbit]

That day referred to as "the Lord's day" is the day of His resurrection from the dead (which was a 1st day following a 7th day Sabbath)..."Sunday" or the day of the Sun, had nothing to do with it and would not have even entered the minds of the Apostles as they had no frame of reference for it. The Feast of First Fruits always falls on a 1st day (which is also an 8th day).

got scripture for all of that?

 

[spiritandtruth2]

That day referred to as "the Lord's day" is the day of His resurrection from the dead (which was a 1st day following a 7th day Sabbath)..."Sunday" or the day of the Sun, had nothing to do with it and would not have even entered the minds of the Apostles as they had no frame of reference for it. The Feast of First Fruits always falls on a 1st day (which is also an 8th day).

"The Lord's day" is only mentioned in the Book of Revelations, where are you coming from, I think you need to rethink what you are saying.

Corinthians 1:7-9

21st Century King James Version (KJ21)

7 so that ye fall behind in no gift, waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
8 He shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the Day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of His Son Jesus Christ our Lord.

Does this sound like the future that is being spoken about or Jesus's Resurrection?

Sunday was introduced by Constantine the Great, which came from the pagan Romans which had dedicated that day to the worship of the Sun, which the Churches adopted, Jesus never mentioned to his disciples to commemorate his resurrection, only his death.

Luke 22:19
New American Standard Bible (NASB)

19 And when He had taken some bread and given thanks, He broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.”

 

[By Faith Alone]

"The Lord's day" is only mentioned in the Book of Revelations, where are you coming from, I think you need to rethink what you are saying.

Corinthians 1:7-9

21st Century King James Version (KJ21)

7 so that ye fall behind in no gift, waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
8 He shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the Day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of His Son Jesus Christ our Lord.

Does this sound like the future that is being spoken about or Jesus's Resurrection?

Ooooh. I did not think a woman could produce Truth according to Christendom today. You and other ladies have proven them liars.

 

[ForChristJesus]

Isaiah 61:1-2(NKJV)
1 “The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon Me, Because the Lord has anointed Me To preach good tidings to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives, And the opening of the prison to those who are bound;
2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, And the day of vengeance of our God; To comfort all who mourn, (rev 11:18,19:15)

Joel 1:15(NKJV)
15 Alas for the day! For the day of the Lord is at hand; It shall come as destruction from the Almighty.

1 Thessalonians 5:2(NKJV)
2For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night.

the "day of the Lord" isn't necessarily tied to any particular day of week, rather, it speaks of a time yet future when God will openly intervene in world events.

this will happen at the last trump when the Christ returns!

"the day of the Lord" is "the Lord's day"!

Absolutely correct that is why I couldn't vote on this thread topic.

 

[Standing Up]

The Lord's Day is his Thousand Year Reign Read Revelation 20:1-3

One day is a Thousand years in God's eyes.

2 Peter 3:8

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Nothing to do with A Sunday.

Excpt John was writing. There's nothing to indicate it was the last 1000 years or the 5th or 6th.

 

[Elder 111]

The view I described has always had a minority acceptance, and that acceptance has been growing among academic circles, so your claim is easily dismissed. There is a growing number of people who are convinced that Scripture means what it really says in passages where the inspired author conveyed his thoughts in plain language devoid of symbolic images. Had John meant to refer to a day in the week, he would have called on that day - but he didn't. When he says he was in the Spirit, we should assume he meant to convey a thought that he was transported to the Lord's day, and then wrote about the things he saw in the future.

John said nothing about the sabbath. Pushing your obsession onto passages of Holy Writ is prejudicial interpretation that masks what the author means to tell us. You admit ignorance of this view of what John might have meant when he refers to the Lord's day, and that ignorance doesn't take into account John's statement "I was in the Spirit", as opposed to your obsession with observance in the flesh.

You started out by stating that your view always had a minority following and yet you are critical of my dismissal of it. Why? When is it that the minority votes win the government?
The idea that it means that John was in the day of the Lord is subject to be discounted on these point.

1. In the verse John says that he is on the isle of Patmos (actual fact) He says that is was on the Lord's day. That should also be taken to be actual. He did not say that he saw the Lord's day.
2. The Day of the Lord speaks of the end of the world. John relates a number of events through time and not things related to the end of the world only.
3. All that John wrote must be things that will happen after Jesus returns to this earth, because that is the time that the day of the Lord is recount from, and no scholar agrees to that.

It is amazing to see how far your obsession takes you!
You wrote this to another member here:

The Day of Pentecost, aka Shavuot, is driven by the Law (Leviticus 23:16) to always fall on a Sunday. Standing Up was correct in his statement:

This was true since Shavuot's ordination in the Law nearly 1500 years before John's time.

Your prejudice is showing, and it is rebellion against God's Word.

Shavuot is Jewish and means fifty, and it came fifty days after passover. It was to celebrate the harvest. In all honesty can you tell me that the pentecost the church celebrates is the same thing.
I will give you that it was the first day of the week but it was in no way called the Lord's day.

 

[Elder 111]

Isaiah 61:1-2(NKJV)
1 “The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon Me, Because the Lord has anointed Me To preach good tidings to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives, And the opening of the prison to those who are bound;
2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, And the day of vengeance of our God; To comfort all who mourn, (rev 11:18,19:15)

Joel 1:15(NKJV)
15 Alas for the day! For the day of the Lord is at hand; It shall come as destruction from the Almighty.

1 Thessalonians 5:2(NKJV)
2For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night.

the "day of the Lord" isn't necessarily tied to any particular day of week, rather, it speaks of a time yet future when God will openly intervene in world events.

this will happen at the last trump when the Christ returns!

"the day of the Lord" is "the Lord's day"!

Will all that John saw be after Jesus returns?
Where in scripture can we have the assurance that the Lord's day is the same as the day of the Lord?

 

[By Faith Alone]

In the Spirit...IN the Lord's day.

Ezek 8:1-3
1 And it came to pass in the sixth year, in the sixth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I sat in mine house, and the elders of Judah sat before me, that the hand of the Lord God fell there upon me.
2 Then I beheld, and lo a likeness as the appearance of fire: from the appearance of his loins even downward, fire; and from his loins even upward, as the appearance of brightness, as the colour of amber.
3 And he put forth the form of an hand, and took me by a lock of mine head; and the spirit lifted me up between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem,

 

[By Faith Alone]

The Lord's Day is his Thousand Year Reign Read Revelation 20:1-3

One day is a Thousand years in God's eyes.

2 Peter 3:8

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Nothing to do with A Sunday.

Ma'am: The intent of your verse is declared within the context of that same passage from which you drew your reference:

2 Peter 3:8-10
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

The verse you quoted is in answer to slackness. Just meaning God will perform His judgment on His own schedule. We want it now and He says...WAIT. The very same passage shows the Day of the Lord is His vengeance and not the 1,000 reign. He is patient. That is all it means. If God means to make a day a year or vice versa He will say so Himself.

Hope you see the point.

 

[VictorC]

You started out by stating that your view always had a minority following and yet you are critical of my dismissal of it. Why? When is it that the minority votes win the government?
The idea that it means that John was in the day of the Lord is subject to be discounted on these point.

1. In the verse John says that he is on the isle of Patmos (actual fact) He says that is was on the Lord's day. That should also be taken to be actual. He did not say that he saw the Lord's day.
2. The Day of the Lord speaks of the end of the world. John relates a number of events through time and not things related to the end of the world only.
3. All that John wrote must be things that will happen after Jesus returns to this earth, because that is the time that the day of the Lord is recount from, and no scholar agrees to that.

The reason I'm critical of your dismissal stems from this being a poll. Three of us have already opined that what John wrote in Revelation 1:10 could easily describe an out-of-body experience when he wrote "I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day", followed by details that aren't of this earth in the very same sentence.

What that translates to is that your poll is defective. Polls are usually crafted to ask others what they believe, but that isn't your purpose in this one, is it? When you insist the text must fit your prejudiced view and that no scholar has another explanation confirms this.

Shavuot is Jewish and means fifty, and it came fifty days after passover. It was to celebrate the harvest. In all honesty can you tell me that the pentecost the church celebrates is the same thing.
I will give you that it was the first day of the week but it was in no way called the Lord's day.

You have a strange way of admitting that you don't know the Law.

 

[spiritandtruth2]

Ma'am: The intent of your verse is declared within the context of that same passage from which you drew your reference:

2 Peter 3:8-10
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

The verse you quoted is in answer to slackness. Just meaning God will perform His judgment on His own schedule. We want it now and He says...WAIT. The very same passage shows the Day of the Lord is His vengeance and not the 1,000 reign. He is patient. That is all it means. If God means to make a day a year or vice versa He will say so Himself.

Hope you see the point.

Well I think you also missed the point "The Lords Day" is explained at this Scripture below.


Revelation 20:4-6

New International Version (NIV)

4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They[a] had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.

That a very special day but we can see it's not a Sunday.

 

[Elder 111]

The Lord's Day is his Thousand Year Reign Read Revelation 20:1-3

One day is a Thousand years in God's eyes.

2 Peter 3:8

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Nothing to do with A Sunday.

What you give here is not conclusive either. Never heard it before.

 

[spiritandtruth2]

What you give here is not conclusive either. Never heard it before.

It's in your Bible, why haven't you heard it before?

 

[Elder 111]

In the Spirit...IN the Lord's day.

Ezek 8:1-3
1 And it came to pass in the sixth year, in the sixth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I sat in mine house, and the elders of Judah sat before me, that the hand of the Lord God fell there upon me.
2 Then I beheld, and lo a likeness as the appearance of fire: from the appearance of his loins even downward, fire; and from his loins even upward, as the appearance of brightness, as the colour of amber.
3 And he put forth the form of an hand, and took me by a lock of mine head; and the spirit lifted me up between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem,

In the Spirit ON the Lord's day.

 

[Elder 111]

Ma'am: The intent of your verse is declared within the context of that same passage from which you drew your reference:

2 Peter 3:8-10
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

The verse you quoted is in answer to slackness. Just meaning God will perform His judgment on His own schedule. We want it now and He says...WAIT. The very same passage shows the Day of the Lord is His vengeance and not the 1,000 reign. He is patient. That is all it means. If God means to make a day a year or vice versa He will say so Himself.

Hope you see the point.

 

[By Faith Alone]

SAT2

No. I did not miss the description given that what Peter said was likened to the the 1,000 year reign. That portion is in error. BUT...if you are convinced in your own mind then...so be it. That is all.