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The world is moving towards an "if it feels good do it, just as long as you don't hurt anyone else". The problem is sin does hurt others. It is the deterioration of America, of society. What is are position as Christians? Do we preach the truth it is a sin. That makes people hate us. No one likes to be told what they are doing is wrong, or they can not do it. God tells us to preach the truth, not to follow this world, but to follow God. Solomon said everything in this world has been done already, and that was like 3000 years ago.

I had a friend preaching that Christians do not get to make laws in this country in regards to gay marriage. I said that is fine but do not expect God to bless America then. she said wow. She was shocked that she could not live how she wanted to live, she could not make her own rules and still receive Gods blessing. It reminded me of a spoiled child who does not get there way. That is what the world is coming to spoiled children.

In this country we pushed God out of schools, out of government which was founded on the Bible, and out of every part of are lives, yet people still want Gods blessing, they say what went wrong? Gee I wonder.

I do not preach condemnation, but I do preach repent and turn to Jesus. I know we will still struggle with sin but if we have Jesus we will be saved. So are christian to catch up with the times, follow the world and not God, and endorse immorality, or are we to be a light to the world as Jesus said?
 
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Awesome post, thanks! This is the kind of wake up call we as christians need. Dark times indeed when christians encourage sin, trying to conform to babylon instead of walking in Christ's footsteps. Sadly, all these things were foretold in scripture and have happened throughout history before.
 
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Awesome post, thanks! This is the kind of wake up call we as christians need. Dark times indeed when christians encourage sin, trying to conform to babylon instead of walking in Christ's footsteps. Sadly, all these things were foretold in scripture and have happened throughout history before.


Solomon says the same thing it has all happen before, even the world being destroyed is not new there was the flood. The books of a Proverbs and Ecclesiastics are great books of wisdom. i think we are to stand up to the world preach repent and be murdered for it as for told. I just see so many Christians saying well i guess it is not that bad. Well the Bible says this about creation but you could be right it could be a big bang, just evolution, After all God made the bang right? and before they know it they are preaching against the Bible.

Christian die everyday for their faith, in places like Iran, and China. We will die to for are faith when the time comes if we stand up against the world.

Thanks for the kind words I am glad you enjoyed it.
 
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I still struggle with sin. But I have made a decision to turn from my sin.

Just remember we all sin, but for those of us who have Jesus we have forgiveness.

There are many things under the law that are a sin, but do not be afraid of them. We are not under the law but grace and faith. We do are best to follow, we try hard, and we fall short, but we are not condemned we are forgiven. And that is a God who is love 1 john 4:8
 
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I feel sorry for non-believers though. Yes, they don't like to be told they are sinning. But some of them don't even think they are sinning, like gay people. They know it is wrong to steal, and lie, and murder, etc. But they think they were born like that. Of course, we tell them they were not. This is a situation I don't know what to think. I don't choose who I am attracted to. So I don't know. But I still know it's wrong.
 
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I feel sorry for non-believers though. Yes, they don't like to be told they are sinning. But some of them don't even think they are sinning, like gay people. They know it is wrong to steal, and lie, and murder, etc. But they think they were born like that. Of course, we tell them they were not. This is a situation I don't know what to think. I don't choose who I am attracted to. So I don't know. But I still know it's wrong.

The Bible answered this for you.

Romans 1:26 NLT

26 That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. 27 And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.


The bible clearly says it is not natural at all. So there is your answer. I suggest you memorise those verses chapter of them and verse numbers. That way when some one ask you if it is wrong you can say Rom 1:26.:):thumbsup:
 
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The Bible answered this for you.

Romans 1:26 NLT

26 That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. 27 And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.


The bible clearly says it is not natural at all. So there is your answer. I suggest you memorise those verses chapter of them and verse numbers. That way when some one ask you if it is wrong you can say Rom 1:26.:):thumbsup:

WOW!! That is why many don't think it is wrong. Because God let them think that way.
 
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I still struggle with sin. But I have made a decision to turn from my sin.

Why do we struggle so much with sin? Is it because we still love our sins? Is it because we have been told that we need to sin?

Is sin a possibility? Of course, it is. While it is a possibility we don't have to make it a probability. In Galatians we are told to put on our armor so we can resist sin. We are told in the Bible to recogn ourselves dead to sin. In other words we need to see ourselves as dead to this world. if we are dead to this world then we are to be alive unto Christ. Be filled with the Holy Spirit. Live in the Spirit and then the flesh will be under control.

Why struggle with sin all the time when we have glorious victory through life in the Spirit.

Ken :bow:
 
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Why do we struggle so much with sin? Is it because we still love our sins? Is it because we have been told that we need to sin?

Is sin a possibility? Of course, it is. While it is a possibility we don't have to make it a probability. In Galatians we are told to put on our armor so we can resist sin. We are told in the Bible to recogn ourselves dead to sin. In other words we need to see ourselves as dead to this world. if we are dead to this world then we are to be alive unto Christ. Be filled with the Holy Spirit. Live in the Spirit and then the flesh will be under control.

Why struggle with sin all the time when we have glorious victory through life in the Spirit.

Ken :bow:

Thank you and God bless
 
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WOW!! That is why many don't think it is wrong. Because God let them think that way.

I think you misunderstood. God left them because of their shameful desires, he said if that is what you want find, but i am not sticking around. You had ask if it was natural the bible clearly says it is not.
 
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Why do we struggle so much with sin? Is it because we still love our sins? Is it because we have been told that we need to sin?

Is sin a possibility? Of course, it is. While it is a possibility we don't have to make it a probability. In Galatians we are told to put on our armor so we can resist sin. We are told in the Bible to recogn ourselves dead to sin. In other words we need to see ourselves as dead to this world. if we are dead to this world then we are to be alive unto Christ. Be filled with the Holy Spirit. Live in the Spirit and then the flesh will be under control.

Why struggle with sin all the time when we have glorious victory through life in the Spirit.

Ken :bow:

amen ..we struggle with sin because we love it more then we love god ..

but he loves us so much his loves woos us toward him and we begin loving him more :)

you are so correct its a blessing .

.if we walk in the spirit of life (who is Jesus) we will not fulfill
the evil desires of the flesh

if we fulfill the evil desires of the flesh we will not walk in the Spirit of life .
 
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amen ..we struggle with sin because we love it more then we love god ..

but he loves us so much his loves woos us toward him and we begin loving him more :)

you are so correct its a blessing .

.if we walk in the spirit of life (who is Jesus) we will not fulfill
the evil desires of the flesh

if we fulfill the evil desires of the flesh we will not walk in the Spirit of life .

I think you guys are over looking something. There are many reasons people struggle with sin, Paul struggled too saying he did what he hated then why did he do it but it was the sin living inside him then it was not him, but sin which did these things. Paul had a thorn in his side. If you know what that means you may know the reason why too.

Not every one loves sin. Jesus said this no one can serve to masters either he will love one and hate the other or he will serve one and not the other you can not serve God and money.
Children of God that sin because everyone does, Hate the sin, but children of satan love the sin. I hate the sin and Love God, like Jesus said i love God my master and hate the other, and serve God and not the other.

I think you need to brush up on just what the Law is if you think you don't sin. I am not saying you sin a lot, i don't know, but i do know you do sin at some point.

I could not understand what peter said about a pig returns to the mud. I thought it meant i was not saved because i sinned other suggested this, as if they were with out sin. Then God showed me the mean and truth.

A pig returns to the mud because it loves the mud. That is its home. I am not like a pig washed clean who goes back to the mud, but am like Paul in I do what I hate. i fall to temptation. This is not a pig at all. a pig runs to the mud. This is a sheep who is being thrown in the mud, and the shepherd comes pulls his sheep out cleans the sheep off, and says lovingly try to stay out of the mud. That is my God, That is the God I know, and one day there will be no more tempter to drag me back to the mud. There will be no more mud at all.

Just think about what your saying when you say you don't sin any more or struggle, people take that as they are not saved because they struggle, and you add to their hell. i know I went through this for many years until God showed me his love and just how much he loves me. Some of us battle things which are in the heavens, and you don't know their torment, look at job and other prophets. Just remember you don't know what a person is going aginst so always love and be kind to them and admit your faults as God shows the fault of prophets in the Bible. You faults maybe what gives others hope:thumbsup:

I could not quote the other guy to but this was to both you, peace and love.
 
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2Tim.4

  1. [4] And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
We live in the age of Modern technology the time spent on things to occupy our persons time. People don't talk or sit down and communicate, in families. People choose not to believe, because they love their sin Example.

a Drunk is a Drunk because he likes his sin, A drug attic loves Drugs, finally a person with a sexual perversion loves their sin. Their our more sins than this but these are the most reveling. People when it comes to sin are like pigs you can clean them up but they will go right back , to the Hog pin and right back to where they were before. We our all Adams Children we were born in sin, Jesus is the hope Christians have to over come this curse.

It is a sad day but persecution and people will either stand for the world or Jesus
Christ its coming soon.

In Christ love
 
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the thorn in the side for paul was given to him by God to deal with pride and humility.because so vast was the revelation that the lord had given him he was in danger of conceit. i assure you it had nothing to do with a struggle with some sin he couldn't stop doing as that would contradict the entire book of Romans which must be read as a whole as all of it-is the point.


2 I must go on boasting. Although there is nothing to be gained, I will go on to visions and revelations from the Lord. 2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know—God knows. 3 And I know that this man—whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows— 4 was caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell. 5 I will boast about a man like that, but I will not boast about myself, except about my weaknesses. 6 Even if I should choose to boast, I would not be a fool, because I would be speaking the truth. But I refrain, so no one will think more of me than is warranted by what I do or say, 7 or because of these surpassingly great revelations. Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. 8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. 9 But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. 10 That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
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he makes it clear that the weaknesses are in suffering insults, hardships, persecutions, difficulties.not sinfulness.
 
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i know that the reason i continued to struggle with a porn addiction is because i loved it more then i loved the lord Jesus.
I know because i cried to the lord -why lord why do i return to this filth.and the lord spoke to me and he said"because you love it more then you love me"

so i cried out lord change me-save me... and he did in me what i was unable to do.and now i am free.i am free to choose .
 
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the thorn in the side for paul was given to him by God to deal with pride and humility.because so vast was the revelation that the lord had given him he was in danger of conceit. i assure you it had nothing to do with a struggle with some sin he couldn't stop doing as that would contradict the entire book of Romans which must be read as a whole as all of it-is the point.


2 I must go on boasting. Although there is nothing to be gained, I will go on to visions and revelations from the Lord. 2 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know—God knows. 3 And I know that this man—whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows— 4 was caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell. 5 I will boast about a man like that, but I will not boast about myself, except about my weaknesses. 6 Even if I should choose to boast, I would not be a fool, because I would be speaking the truth. But I refrain, so no one will think more of me than is warranted by what I do or say, 7 or because of these surpassingly great revelations. Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. 8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. 9 But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. 10 That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
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he makes it clear that the weaknesses are in suffering insults, hardships, persecutions, difficulties.not sinfulness.

You are mistaken Rom 7:14

14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.[c] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

21 So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!

So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature[d] a slave to the law of sin.

sure sounds like he is talking about the struggle of sin.
 
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Michael.

Are you suggestion you no longer sin?

If so lets see lets compare you to the law.

I bet you tell a lie at some point that is a sin, I am sure you have a lustful thought at some point that is adultery. Do you love all humans? because if not you are sinning. Jesus said love each other as your self if you do not love everyone as your self guess what that is a sin. That is a commandment from God.

What is sin it is disobeying God, no?

So are you telling me that you do not sin because if that was true you would be able to heal the sick even if you sin only a little you would be so close to God you would be a prophet.

I am not endorsing the sin, but to say a person stops sinning completely when they are saved is not true and a lie.

I can point out where many prophets sinned, Jacob did this a lot, are you suggesting you are greater than Jacob? Peter sinned in the presence of Jesus, are you greater than Peter.

Why did Paul feel the need to tell us we are not under the Law? Hmm maybe because we still sin under the Law. So your suggesting Jesus saved us from the Law to put us back under the Law? And that now we obey the Law in its full? right.
 
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