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Is anyone else watching the Strange Fire conference with John MacArthur?

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they are streaming it live on the grace to you website and its extraordinary I am only sorry my family members are not open minded enough to listen and hear the problems with tongues and healing and prophecy.

hope someone here will enjoy this and share it with perhaps the correct forum if this is not it :thumbsup:
 

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they are streaming it live on the grace to you website and its extraordinary I am only sorry my family members are not open minded enough to listen and hear the problems with tongues and healing and prophecy.

I am into all three :p
 
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I am into all three :p
Me too! Praise God! All three are biblical and mentioned in both the old and new testament! That teacher would've blown his lid if he'd seen David dance before the Lord in a linen cloth, LOL!

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And do I care what he thinks? No.

But I hope he's very careful in what he has to say though. (Never mind this comment - based on what I've read it doesn't seem to be a concern of his).

posted: problems with tongues and healing and prophecy. Of course, because it involves human beings who aren't perfect. BUT tongues and healing and prophecy are Scriptural and it tells us about those that are authentic.

It's interesting to me that as believers we believe in Yahweh who is Spirit but the majority of believers don't believe in the supernatural.???

I've seen one "amen" and one "tear" be offensive to other believers. It takes so little to violate our image of Yahweh and our image of how believers should behave.
 
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The golden calf example given in the 1st session is an excellent example of why the charismatic church is off course, in that they use a false representation of the true God.
Or rather worshiping the true God in a false form.
The bible is ripe with examples of how terrible corrupt worship is in the eyes of the Lord.
 
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The golden calf example given in the 1st session is an excellent example of why the charismatic church is off course, in that they use a false representation of the true God.
Or rather worshiping the true God in a false form.
The bible is ripe with examples of how terrible corrupt worship is in the eyes of the Lord.

Are you saying there's a proper form of worship, and not everything everyone does is approved by God?
 
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Me too! Praise God! All three are biblical and mentioned in both the old and new testament! That teacher would've blown his lid if he'd seen David dance before the Lord in a linen cloth, LOL!

I hope to dance like that. Believe in those too spark
 
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I am also into all three.
God save us from those who forbid to speak in tongues, who forbid to prophesy, who forbid miracles, who forbid gifts of the Spirit, and who forbid worship of God with all our heart, soul, and mind -because they fear the devil might take over the Holy Spirit in a person's worship and prayers.
Might as well forbid holy matrimony because the devil has introduced un-holy, unlawful matrimony, and even some "churches" are blaspheming against God's order by claiming they are "uniting strange flesh into one" -with sodomite "marriages". -Stop all marriages, cause the devil has a counterfeit!

1 Cor 2: 4,5
And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
How to keep order in the tongues speaking, prophesying Church of Jesus Christ -and not to forbid tongues:
1 Corinthians 14

King James Version (KJV)

14 Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.
2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.
4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.
5 I would that ye all spake with tongues but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.
6 Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine?
7 And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or harped?
8 For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?
9 So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.
10 There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification.
11 Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me.
12 Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.
13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
16 Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest?
17 For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified.
18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:
19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.
20 Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men.
21 In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.
22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.
23 If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?
24 But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all:
25 And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.
26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.
29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.
31 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.
32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.
40 Let all things be done decently and in order.

The Holy Spirit has set in the Church for all the Church age, these gifts:


1 Cor 12:
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12 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.
2 Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.
3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
14 For the body is not one member, but many.
15 If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
16 And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
17 If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?
18 But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.
19 And if they were all one member, where were the body?
20 But now are they many members, yet but one body.
21 And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.
22 Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary:
23 And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness.
24 For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked.
25 That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.
26 And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.
27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
 
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Interesting that MacArthur keeps calling Satan the ultimate angel of light.
The Word says Satan can" shapeshift" into the form of an angel of light, but satan was never an angel of light and was created as the prince of darkness = the ruler of of "the Lake of Fire" whose only reason for being created as the evil spirit in heaven [and there is one chief of them and many under him] was and is to try and test the holy angels and the Adam creation so as to "weed out" the unworthy who will all be the eternal food in the Lake of Fire, where the satans eternal food and drink will be to torment and afflict the fallen angels and demons and the Adam persons who are cast there, soul in body -minus the spirit and therefore "undying worms".

The Lake of Fire was created for Satan and his unholy "angels -evil spirits" in heaven, and they are laying up their food for eternity, and have little time to "get more" for their lust for tormenting and afflicting, which is their food and drink.

The book of Enoch is where the doctrine of the satans -with one prince over them- and the Lake of Fire and the Book of Life and the Book of Deeds and Sheol below earth -and many other Bible Truths- are intorduced as doctrine and never changed by Moses, but used by Moses and all the prophets -and our Lord Jesus Christ- as foundational truth.
 
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The Word says Satan can" shapeshift" into the form of an angel of light, but satan was never an angel of light and was created as the prince of darkness = the ruler of of "the Lake of Fire" whose only reason for being created as the evil spirit in heaven [and there is one chief of them and many under him] was and is to try and test the holy angels and the Adam creation so as to "weed out" the unworthy who will all be the eternal food in the Lake of Fire, where the satans eternal food and drink will be to torment and afflict the fallen angels and demons and the Adam persons who are cast there, soul in body -minus the spirit and therefore "undying worms".

That's quite a story there. Whew.

The Lake of Fire was created for Satan and his unholy "angels -evil spirits" in heaven, and they are laying up their food for eternity, and have little time to "get more" for their lust for tormenting and afflicting, which is their food and drink.

People and Holy Angels as devil's food cake.

Who'd a thunkit?
 
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That's quite a story there. Whew.



People and Holy Angels as devil's food cake.

Who'd a thunkit?

It is Bible doctrine, and you can styudy to prove it true for yourself, or try to prove it is not.
But just to scoff without searching to see for yourself and making empty comments with no foundation is giving nothing of substance, just empty wind.
 
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