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Can one be Christian and Atheist at the same time?
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juvenissun
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Of course. Currently I am a 98% Christian and 2% atheist.
When I was baptized, I was 2% Christian and 98% atheist.
You can figure out the rest of it.
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jayem
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I'm a "Calvinist" atheist. If there really is a sovereign God, then he's already decided who will believe and who will not. If it's part of his grand plan that I should become a believer, then he'll arrange events so that it happens. Thus, if I never believe in God, then either God isn't really sovereign, or it was never meant to be. It's only logical.
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Somebody obviously wanted to create a Wikipedia page for "Christian atheism" but that doesn't mean it exists except as a few people's speculation.
The problem might be that there are several ways of looking at this. There is belief in Christ as one's sole or principal moral inspiration while still remaining an atheist...and there's also the idea that I seem to see voiced on this thread of being what appears to me to be simple indecision.
But to answer the question without any equivocation, I'd say "No," it's not possible to be both a Christian and an atheist. That's not because believing in Christ as God is essential but because even "Trinitarian revisionsts" ordinarily believe that there is a God, regardless of how they define Christ.
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No! To be Christian you have to believe that Jesus is the son of God. To be atheist you can't believe in God.
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No, not without violating the law of non-contradiction, but one can be a little of both in different respects.
One can certainly be a "Christian Atheist", but that isn't the same thing as being a Christian and an atheist simultaneously.
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No. You need to accept that Jesus IS God in order to touch anywhere about a Christian. You are a non-Christian.
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"Atheism," Eugene wrote in later years, "true 'existential' atheism burning with hatred of a seemingly unjust or unmerciful God, is a spiritual state; it is a real attempt to grapple with the true God Whose ways are so inexplicable even to the most believing of men, and it has more than once been known to end in a blinding vision of Him Whom the real atheist truly seeks. It is Christ Who works in these souls. The Antichrist is not to be found primarily in the great deniers, but in the small affirmers, whose Christ is only on the lips. Nietzsche, in calling himself Antichrist, proved thereby his intense hunger for Christ...."
-From The Life of Seraphim Rose
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Maybe Christian atheism is hard to imagine, but I observe that some people aspire to the nature of Christ, with atheist belief. The point of difference is that a Christian who believes in Christ has a reason to give them that faith. The atheist believes that they don't have a reason to have faith, but I would be genuinely surprised to learn that there are absolutely no atheists who given a compelling reason, would accept Him. Our beliefs are extremely circumstantial. We all have wrong beliefs sometimes. This question is like the prodigal son. Was the prodigal son any less a son while he had disowned his father? Was he a son in the end? And more importantly, who has the right to decide whether an atheist will accept Jesus when the time comes. When does the time come? It is written: every knee will bow and tongue confess that Jesus is Lord. Does it logically follow that every atheist will not accept Him then? Is it possible that an atheist accepts the spirit of Truth, but has been sufficiently disillusioned by trusting other spirits, that their beliefs do not permit them to believe theism? What about Christians themselves, have they always been on side with God? Are they always on side with Him? Do they always accept the truth when they are wrong?
What is the purpose of this thread? What is the effect? OP, you are needed here.
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The purpose of this thread was to stimulate thoughts, discussion, ideas and share opinions like the ones you have kindly shared with us. I don't know what you mean by effect?
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Doesnt one have to have a basic belief of god to have a basic belief of Jesus? Or more they like the idea of the personification of jesus? Either way, I do not see how one can be a christian atheist when christianity requires a belief in god does it not? Especially seeing as Jesus is meant to be the physical form of god.
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