New Creationist theory on how life spread out after the flood.

[Loudmouth]

A Common Flood Story. Not just the Hebrews (Gen. 6–8), but Mesopotamians, Egyptians, and Greeks all report a flood in primordial times. A Sumerian king list from c. 2100 BC divides itself into two categories: those kings who ruled before a great flood and those who ruled after it. One of the earliest examples of Sumero-Akkadian-Babylonian literature, the Gilgamesh Epic, describes a great flood sent as punishment by the gods, with humanity saved only when the pious Utnapishtim (AKA, “the Mesopotamian Noah”) builds a ship and saves the animal world thereon. A later Greek counterpart, the story of Deucalion and Phyrra, tells of a couple who survived a great flood sent by an angry Zeus. Taking refuge atop Mount Parnassus (AKA, “the Greek Ararat”), they supposedly repopulated the earth by heaving stones behind them that sprang into human beings.

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What about all of the flood stories that are different?

 

[LastSeven]

What about them?

 

[CabVet]

What about them?

They invalidate your argument that a common story has any significance.

 

[Davian]

You tell me first.

How would you demonstrate to a physically blind man that the sun exists?
You first.

Too late - I said it first.

Exactly. Demonstrate that you, personally, are not "physically blind".

Nope. It is not necessary, unless your point is that *you* cannot demonstrate that you not "spiritually blind". If so, you have shot yourself in the foot.

Demonstrate that you, personally, are not "spiritually blind", or abdicate.

 

[Loudmouth]

What about them?

Different flood stories show that the Noachian flood story is a product of its culture and not a shared, global event.

 

[LastSeven]

They invalidate your argument that a common story has any significance.

No they don't. They're all the same story told from different perspectives. The fact that multiple civilizations have records of a great flood strengthens the case for the biblical account of Noah. It's called "mounting evidence". The fact that they are not exactly identical invalidates nothing.

 

[lasthero]

. The fact that multiple civilizations have records of a great flood strengthens the case for the biblical account of Noah.

First off, we live on a planet that's constantly raining and flooding. It's not that weird for many civilizations to have myths about floods, especially since people tend to settle around areas that are prone to flooding.

Second off, how do you figure it supports the Noah story? How do you Noah's story doesn't support some other flood myth?

 

[LastSeven]

If all the stories are talking about the same event then they all support each other, don't they.

 

[lasthero]

If all the stories are talking about the same event then they all support each other, don't they.

How do you know they're all talking about the same flood?

 

[LastSeven]

It's called deductive reasoning.

 

[lasthero]

It's called deductive reasoning.

Then explain it.

 

[LastSeven]

Do you know what deductive reasoning is?

 

[lasthero]

Do you know what deductive reasoning is?

Yes. And I'm trying to understand your thought process on this.

 

[Doveaman]

You are misinterpreting some of your emotions and feelings, that is all. You are experiencing the same stuff we all experience, you are just slapping a fancy label on some of it ('spirituality') and then claiming it as proof for your completely unrelated and baseless religious beliefs. That is what is happening.

So says the blind man.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It's called deductive reasoning.

Yet many of the flood stories are quite different.

Yes, they do all share the fact that they are physically impossible and that all life would have died out on the surface of the Earth after the fact. But that is about it.

 

[nuttypiglet]

What about all of the flood stories that are different?

Of course you have listed a tiny fraction of the countries that have a flood account. To name another tiny fraction in addition, China, Babylonia, Wales, Russia, India, America, Hawaii, Scandinavia, Sumatra, Peru, and Polynesia.

 

[Strathos]

Yet Egypt doesn't have one, and they're one of the oldest civilizations that kept records...

 

[nuttypiglet]

First off, we live on a planet that's constantly raining and flooding. It's not that weird for many civilizations to have myths about floods, especially since people tend to settle around areas that are prone to flooding.

Second off, how do you figure it supports the Noah story? How do you Noah's story doesn't support some other flood myth?

We live on a planet that has rain NOW. I can see that you have never read the Bible, because you would otherwise know that it had never rained until the flood.

 

[nuttypiglet]

Yet Egypt doesn't have one, and they're one of the oldest civilizations that kept records...

I thought one of the problems with ANCIENT egypt, and I mean ANCIENT is they never had records? I thought they came later?

 

[lasthero]

We live on a planet that has rain NOW. I can see that you have never read the Bible, because you would otherwise know that it had never rained until the flood.

A) It did rain before the Flood. The Bible never says that it never rained before the Flood. All it says is that, in the beginning, God watered the Earth with a mist. He did this once. There's nothing to suggest he did this all the time, or that it never rained.

You need to read your Bible more.

B) Even if hadn't, this is irrelevant. We're clearly talking about civilizations that arose AFTER the Flood, because we wouldn't know much about a civilization that lived before.