Banning tanning

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Illinois is now the 3rd state (with CA and VT) to ban tanning in commercial salons by persons under 18--even with parental permission.

New laws ban teens from salon tanning beds, electronic cigarettes - chicagotribune.com


Actually most of the states, and many localities already have a variety of restrictions on minors using indoor tanning facilities.

Indoor Tanning Restrictions and Regulations


What do people think about these laws? Is this futile, nanny-state overreaching? (Since kids can always bake themselves for hours in the sun. Or use someone's home tanning bed.) Or is it a reasonable public health measure to mitigate future medical problems?
 

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As a boy who baked in the sun every summer to the point of blisters, I wish more had been known then about the dangers of too much of that good thing. The problem that I see with tanning beds is the perception that they are safe when they aren't. I'm all in favor of abolishing them personally. But that's just me.
 
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I would hope that no parents would be stupid enough to give their children permission to use tanning salons, but as apparently they are that stupid, then there should be some guideline in place, just as there are guidelines about smoking - which is another source of cancer.
 
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It's common sense. Good for Illinois! Since very often sense isn't all that common.
Suntan's are scabs on the body due to the dermis, the surface layers of skin, being burned.
It's not attractive. Its a chronic self induced body injury. And kids should be saved from stupid decisions like entering a tanning salon when they're under 18.

I hope more States pass laws like this.
 
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I'd rather see more public health campaigns through form of like posters or PSA commercials. Educate people so they may make informed decisions.

As others have said, you can't really ban people from tanning in the sun, so obviously, other initiatives need to be taken like educating people on the harmful effects of excess exposure to ultraviolet radiation. This is especially effective IMO.
 
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I'd rather see more public health campaigns through form of like posters or PSA commercials. Educate people so they may make informed decisions.

As others have said, you can't really ban people from tanning in the sun, so obviously, other initiatives need to be taken like educating people on the harmful effects of excess exposure to ultraviolet radiation. This is especially effective IMO.

Tanning beds, though, are incredibly concentrated compared to simple sunbathing. A 10-minute session in a bed can cause a skin damaging sunburn.
 
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Tanning beds, though, are incredibly concentrated compared to simple sunbathing. A 10-minute session in a bed can cause a skin damaging sunburn.
Exactly. It's the intensity of these sunbeds. :/ People must be crazy. I didn't even know anyone did this any more.

I prefer 'pale and interesting' to 'permanently scarred from skin cancer surgeries'. :(
 
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I've used them on a few occasions (for 6 minute sessions a couple times a week) to build a base tan if I go somewhere south for vacation...since I'll burn up if I don't do that first, but I don't make a habit out of it.

I am kind of surprised and the number of posters who apparently want an overreaching government :doh:

To be honest, there a far more harmful things that people allow their kids to do than signing off on their 17 year old going to the tanning beds...people allow their kids to drive when they're 16...and the stats for car crashes by 16-18 year old show that a 16 year old driver has a bigger chance of injuring or killing themselves in a car crash than 16 year old tanner would of giving themselves skin cancer...do we ban driving now too???

Once again, we have several posters from the liberal left who are all about "it's my body and can put whatever I want in it, or flush whatever I don't want out of it" in one breath...and in the next thread, it's time to tell everyone what they can and can't do with their own person...so which is it?...I've seen at least one of the posters in this thread (I won't mention the name & violate the TOS) that has stated that they think a 16 year old girl should be allowed to get an abortion without parental consent...but now sings a different tune on the topic of getting a tan :doh:

Not surprised that this is happening in Illinois...they don't exactly have the best track record with respecting personal freedoms.
 
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I would hope that no parents would be stupid enough to give their children permission to use tanning salons, but as apparently they are that stupid, then there should be some guideline in place, just as there are guidelines about smoking - which is another source of cancer.
Well most parents probably do have a problem with say their five year old using a tanning bed, but many feel that a young teenage girl say preparing for her prom 16 or 17 years old is different.
 
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Well most parents probably do have a problem with say their five year old using a tanning bed, but many feel that a young teenage girl say preparing for her prom 16 or 17 years old is different.
In other words that's what you did ...

What is wrong with spray tan? No skin cancer .. washes right off.

My answer would be no to my under-18 yo dd using a sun bed, but then she's too smart to want to do that.
 
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I'd rather see more public health campaigns through form of like posters or PSA commercials. Educate people so they may make informed decisions.
I'm in favor of this plus having people sign consent forms detailing the dangers and requiring warning posters some what prominently displayed in the salons.
 
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I've used them on a few occasions (for 6 minute sessions a couple times a week) to build a base tan if I go somewhere south for vacation...since I'll burn up if I don't do that first, but I don't make a habit out of it.

I am kind of surprised and the number of posters who apparently want an overreaching government :doh:

To be honest, there a far more harmful things that people allow their kids to do than signing off on their 17 year old going to the tanning beds...people allow their kids to drive when they're 16...and the stats for car crashes by 16-18 year old show that a 16 year old driver has a bigger chance of injuring or killing themselves in a car crash than 16 year old tanner would of giving themselves skin cancer...do we ban driving now too???

Once again, we have several posters from the liberal left who are all about "it's my body and can put whatever I want in it, or flush whatever I don't want out of it" in one breath...and in the next thread, it's time to tell everyone what they can and can't do with their own person...so which is it?...I've seen at least one of the posters in this thread (I won't mention the name & violate the TOS) that has stated that they think a 16 year old girl should be allowed to get an abortion without parental consent...but now sings a different tune on the topic of getting a tan :doh:

Not surprised that this is happening in Illinois...they don't exactly have the best track record with respecting personal freedoms.
Nice catch. :thumbsup: The hypocrisy is breathtaking. Somehow the state that cant prohibit 16 year olds from having an abortion can prohibit them from using a tanning bed. Hopefully one of them will explain this sort of absurd reasoning, but I wont hold my breath.
 
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I've used them on a few occasions (for 6 minute sessions a couple times a week) to build a base tan if I go somewhere south for vacation...since I'll burn up if I don't do that first, but I don't make a habit out of it.

I am kind of surprised and the number of posters who apparently want an overreaching government :doh:

To be honest, there a far more harmful things that people allow their kids to do than signing off on their 17 year old going to the tanning beds...people allow their kids to drive when they're 16...and the stats for car crashes by 16-18 year old show that a 16 year old driver has a bigger chance of injuring or killing themselves in a car crash than 16 year old tanner would of giving themselves skin cancer...do we ban driving now too???

Once again, we have several posters from the liberal left who are all about "it's my body and can put whatever I want in it, or flush whatever I don't want out of it" in one breath...and in the next thread, it's time to tell everyone what they can and can't do with their own person...so which is it?...I've seen at least one of the posters in this thread (I won't mention the name & violate the TOS) that has stated that they think a 16 year old girl should be allowed to get an abortion without parental consent...but now sings a different tune on the topic of getting a tan :doh:

Not surprised that this is happening in Illinois...they don't exactly have the best track record with respecting personal freedoms.
I totally agree. What sort of mentality is it that accepts an arbitrary decision by some faceless government entity to prohibit something for the totally vacuous excuse of "the public health?"

In reading these posts, you'd think all tanning beds cause cancer all the time, or that all tanning beds cause sunburns all the time, which leads to cancer all the time... at least in Illinois; and apparently in CA and VT.

What about tanning beds in the other 47 states? :scratch: Are those states less "enlightened" (no pun intended) than IL, CA, and VT? Maybe we need a "public health mandate" to educate and enlighten the citizens of those 47 states?

All tanning beds do is shorten the amount of time one needs to be exposed to UV radiation to get a tan; or a sunburn. One could get an equal amount of UV radiation by spending sufficient time outdoors, in the sun. They'd just have to spend more time there. Can someone abuse them? Absolutely. I abused a ski lift one sunny day in the winter years ago to hasten a ski tan before I returned from leave. I got 2nd degree blisters for my stupidity. Maybe for the sake of "public health" we need to ban the use of ski lifts on bright sunny days?

Consider too that the higher in altitude one gets, the greater their exposure to UV radiation - naturally. Should we ban all human outdoor activity above sea level? It'd improve the "public health," certainly.

Does too much sun create potential health problems? Yes! And major "duh!" btw. :doh: Ever wonder why cowboys in the old west are always pictured with long sleeves? We've known about sunburn for as long as we've existed as a race. The pain of a sunburn is usually cause sufficient to prevent someone from repeating that activity too many times. Maybe we need a "public health directive" to remind us that sunburns hurt?

What frightens me is that there seem to be altogether too many people willing to give up their liberty to a faceless, unelected government bureaucracy for some unholy desire that the government assume responsibility for their welfare rather than themselves - or worse, that that same government, for some unimaginably bizarre reason, knows what's better for them than they do.

Are we really that irresponsible, ignorant, and incompetent -- have we finally spiralled down so far that we've forgotten the lessons of the common sunburn that we need the government to tell us sunburns are bad?

One of the truly scariest phrases (and ideologies) ever concocted has to be, "for the public health."
 
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And store owners can be trusted to turn away money? ^_^

It's not about trusting store owners...it's about trusting parents to choose what they want to allow their own kids to do.

I'm sure you'd take objection to a right wing conservative Christian making decision about what you can and can't let your children do...am I right?

Time and time again on these forums, I've seen where you absolutely oppose the concept of government telling people what they can and can't do on the family level (on topics of marriage, etc...)...is it safe to assume that your opposition of federal involvement in the family only goes as far as the left wing agenda? (IE: It's okay for the government to step as long as its something that fits the democrat agenda)???
 
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