Complete Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism

[AV1611VET]

Few real scientists refer to them thusly.

How do you know?

How many people have to die for the idea of a supernatural promised land?

That's an excellent question ... perhaps the answer is somewhere in Yasser Arafat's annals?

A better way to ask this is: How many people have to die before people wake up and realize that Israel is indeed the Promised Land? i.e., not, as you put it, just an idea ... but reality?

I'm going to stop [reading] right here, since my tolerance for lengthy posts to simple questions is low right now.

 

[BrandiFL]

Bump for Aron and his awesome videos! They are actually what de-converted me!
Along with DonExodus2's videos.

 

[AV1611VET]

Bump for Aron and his awesome videos! They are actually what de-converted me!
Along with DonExodus2's videos.

I thought you said [people like] I deconverted you!?

Perhaps I'm confusing you with someone else?

 

[Ubogion]

 

[BrandiFL]

I thought you said [people like] I deconverted you!?

Perhaps I'm confusing you with someone else?

Well I was being a little facetious but yeah, creationist lies were what originally made me question everything.

 

[Lucy Stulz]

How do you know?

Because I think I only hear people like you claiming that scientists say that. While I'm sure a few say stuff like that but it isn't in a scientific position.

A better way to ask this is: How many people have to die before people wake up and realize that Israel is indeed the Promised Land? i.e., not, as you put it, just an idea ... but reality?

If only God were powerful enough to step in and make it incontrovertible for everyone.

But until then I guess it's more blood!

I'm going to stop [reading] right here, since my tolerance for lengthy posts to simple questions is low right now.

Of course it is. Reading is hard.

If only the King James Bible was done as a graphic novel or cartoon!

 

[AV1611VET]

Well I was being a little facetious but yeah, creationist lies were what originally made me question everything.

Don't scare me like that!

 

[AV1611VET]

Because I think I only hear people like you claiming that scientists say that.

Well, newbie, am I going to have to dig up seven years worth of e-scientists saying that here?

 

[pgp_protector]

Well, newbie, am I going to have to dig up seven years worth of e-scientists saying that here?

Well we all know you won't "Arab Phone" what they're saying will you?
In doing a Google Search on this site for the phrase "ignorant bronze-age goat herders," the only postings I find are either you saying it, or someone Quoting you saying it.

 

[AV1611VET]

Well we all know you won't "Arab Phone" what they're saying will you?
In doing a Google Search on this site for the phrase "ignorant bronze-age goat herders," the only postings I find are either you saying it, or someone Quoting you saying it.

You mean, like here?

Speaking of which, what is the difference between this particular story of creation written by these particular bronze age goat herders and the other stories of creation written by other bronze age goat herders? Oh yeah, the only difference is that THIS one is true, right?

My advice to you is: keep looking.

 

[pgp_protector]

You mean, like here?


My advice to you is: keep looking.

ah ah ah, they didn't say "ignorant, Bronze Age, goat herders" like you quoted.
unless you're saying misquoting is ok now?

Is that why e-scientists exclusively refer to the Biblical Jews as "ignorant, Bronze Age, goat herders"?

We had a missionary to Israel at our church just recently, and while at his table, I told him:

"I deal with atheists online, and the one question I like to ask them is if Israel is the Promised Land. If they're honest, they'll say, 'no.'"

 

[AV1611VET]

ah ah ah, they didn't say "ignorant, Bronze Age, goat herders" like you quoted.

As I advised ... keep looking.

No I called them Bronze age goat herders.

Oh, yeah, I forgot "ignorant" ...

 

[Lucy Stulz]

Well, newbie, am I going to have to dig up seven years worth of e-scientists saying that here?

As I said few scientists refer to them as that. I didn't say no scientist has ever said it.

I stand by my opinion.

 

[Lucy Stulz]

As I advised ... keep looking.


Oh, yeah, I forgot "ignorant" ...

Ohmygosh! Two people have said it! As long as there are only 3 scientists in the world you may be right!

 

[Tomk80]

As I said few scientists refer to them as that. I didn't say no scientist has ever said it.

I stand by my opinion.

You should probably realize that "scientist" in AV-speak means "anyone who says something I don't like". Rather than the normal definition of someone doing scientific research in a particular field. Even then, it probably requires you to ignore the context of the discussion, because "context of the discussion" in AV-speak generally also means "anyone who says something I don't like".

I'm sure it is something that it has been pointed out on this board more than once that the Jews in the bible knew a lot less about the world around them than we do nowadays. AV doesn't like that rather common sense fact.

 

[Tomk80]

Ohmygosh! Two people have said it! As long as there are only 3 scientists in the world you may be right!

And of course, to AV some people on a webforum is the equivalent of large swats of the population.

So every time AV says e-scientists said x, what you should read is "On this particular part of Christianforums, some of the participants who hold a position I don't like have said x."

Hope that clears things up for you.

 

[AV1611VET]

As I said few scientists refer to them as that. I didn't say no scientist has ever said it.

I stand by my opinion.

Which loops right back to my original question: How do you know?

Have you asked each and every one?

 

[AV1611VET]

Ohmygosh! Two people have said it! As long as there are only 3 scientists in the world you may be right!

Like I said, I'm not going to hunt up each and every one for the past seven years.

If you don't believe me -- big deal.

I have a feeling there's a lot I say you don't believe.

 

[pgp_protector]

Like I said, I'm not going to hunt up each and every one for the past seven years.

If you don't believe me -- big deal.

I have a feeling there's a lot I say you don't believe.

I'd be happy with you showing one accurate record of somebody saying it when are not quoting you saying it. I mean if theres soooo many of them it shouldn't be that hard.

 

[AV1611VET]

I'd be happy with you show in one accurate record of somebody saying it when are not quoting you saying it.

-- Huh?