A rock so big, it can't be moved.

[pjnlsn]

For those of you who think that this poses some sort of problem for omnipotence let me ask you a question: what is a square circle?

This doesn't contradict the statement describing the contradiction in omnipotence.

Both the statement about the contradiction in omnipotence and between that of the concept of a square and a circle, if applied to the same object, are true.

 

[ivebeenshown]

An infinite is something that is without bounds/limits, if something that have bound/limit than it's not infinite, an infinite not having bounds/limits does not mean that it's not infinite.

The set of real numbers is limited to contain only numbers (and no letters), but it is still infinite.

 

[astein]

I have no idea what you're saying.

There isn't such thing as a "god" greater than God Himself.

All of mankind serves either God or dead things(without life).

Reminder:

Yes, most people construct congruous concepts of gods to support their beliefs.

 

[super animator]

The set of real numbers is limited to contain only numbers (and no letters), but it is still infinite.

I was refering to the overall "length" not the type of "length"

 

[Gottservant]

Put it this way, its not a contradiction because God doesn't even ask the question.

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

There isn't such thing as a "god" greater than God Himself.

All of mankind serves either God or dead things(without life).

Reminder:

I don't serve god, or dead things. Come to think of it, I don't serve anyone, except my wife of course, but she deserves it!

 

[pjnlsn]

Put it this way, its not a contradiction because God doesn't even ask the question.

Like with many other things, this is irrelevant to whether the contradiction is present.

 

[Gottservant]

Like with many other things, this is irrelevant to whether the contradiction is present.

Let me put it another way, God can't ask the question.

The contradiction is therefore akin to undetectable dark matter.

 

[Eudaimonist]

I don't serve god, or dead things. Come to think of it, I don't serve anyone, except my wife of course, but she deserves it!

Unless of course your wife is undead... oh, god, look behind you!


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[ToddNotTodd]

For those of you who think that this poses some sort of problem for omnipotence let me ask you a question: what is a square circle?

Something that Christians tell me your god can make because he's "omnipotent"...

 

[ivebeenshown]

I was refering to the overall "length" not the type of "length"

I don't know what you mean, but my point is that something can be infinite in one aspect and finite in another.

 

[pjnlsn]

Let me put it another way, God can't ask the question.

The contradiction is therefore akin to undetectable dark matter.

And yet, as before, the contradiction is present as detailed, and talking about an unknown being which may or may not have some amount of characteristics, doesn't make it vanish, even as you may somehow feel like you need to submit to the unknown being, and not speak of anything it doesn't with you talk of, or can't. And in any case, the above is actually another example of these kinds of contradictions.

 

[Gottservant]

I can prove you guys are giving God a bad wrap here.

What if the subject is a man?

"Can a man come up with a paradox so big he can't comprehend it?"

Of course he can't! He is the one that came up with it!

 

[pjnlsn]

I can prove you guys are giving God a bad wrap here.

What if the subject is a man?

"Can a man come up with a paradox so big he can't comprehend it?"

Of course he can't! He is the one that came up with it!

Like you talking about square circles as though it's the same as what's being said, the above isn't the same.

The contradiction is still present, and there's no real obstacle to your understanding of this. No immovable obstacle. You apparently feel compelled to talk endlessly about how 'God' forbids us to talk about these things, and how we're trying to the one this moniker refers to a 'bad rap,' is what I think you meant.

But how you feel about all of this irrelevant. The contradiction is still present, and there is a similar but not quite the same concept which is explicitly defined so as to avoid the contradiction. The beginning and end of the problem itself has already been detailed in one or more of my posts, and no amount of personification, the displaying of submission to an idea, or emotional appeals effects the truth of what was written.

 

[Gottservant]

You didn't answer the question.

 

[brightlights]

Something that Christians tell me your god can make because he's "omnipotent"...

An omnipotent God cannot make a square circle.

 

[Gottservant]

An omnipotent God cannot make a square circle.

An omnipotent God can make a square appear circular, but only within the bounds of the understanding that "this is not reality".

 

[GoldenBoy89]

circles=360*
a square is made up of 4, 90* angles.

4x90* = 360*

circle = 360*
square = 360*

problem solved

 

[pjnlsn]

You didn't answer the question.

The answer is no, but again the three are not equivalent.

The contradiction I wrote of is still present.

 

[pjnlsn]

An omnipotent God can make a square appear circular, but only within the bounds of the understanding that "this is not reality".

He's also pointing out that your question and the original question of the thread do not involve fundamentally similar characteristics.

The contradiction I wrote of is still present.