Who thinks Obama is the Anti-Christ?

Who thinks Obama is the Anti-Christ?

  • No he is most definatley not

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If we're wrong, we're wrong.

If we're right, we're right.

I don't see it like this. You can't just go around predicting things and then go on your merry way like nothing happened when it doesn't come true. Your name will be ruined and any future predictions you give will be of no value.
 
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I don't see it like this. You can't just go around predicting things and then go on your merry way like nothing happened when it doesn't come true. Your name will be ruined and any future predictions you give will be of no value.

Fine. My name will be ruined if Obama is not the antichrist.

Happy?

If I'm right, I'll be standing in heaven praising God for my salvation before Saturday.
 
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Fine. My name will be ruined if Obama is not the antichrist.

Happy?

If I'm right, I'll be standing in heaven praising God for my salvation before Saturday.
That is if pre- trib is correct. Which I am not claiming for sure that it is not, but recently I have started lending towards post-trib.
 
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That is if pre- trib is correct. Which I am not claiming for sure that it is not, but recently I have started lending towards post-trib.

The rapture happens after the resurrection on the last day.
 
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No, the antichrist is an arrogant, self-centered, devil-empowered person who succeeds at everything he does in spite of law and justice. He will suffer a fatal head wound, survive, and then claim to be a god. He will speak blasphemous things against God, against God's Temple Mount, and against the raptured church and have no respect for the God of Israel.

And the antichrist isn't revealed/empowered until after we're gone.


And you expect to be gone this Friday, right?
 
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I don't see it like this. You can't just go around predicting things and then go on your merry way like nothing happened when it doesn't come true. Your name will be ruined and any future predictions you give will be of no value.

If we don't see BethWhite here again after Friday, we must assume rapture occured and the rest of us missed it.
 
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that and how could more be brought to Christ if there were not many Christians around, at all to share?

I've never understood pre-trib. Jesus returns only once. He returns on the last day to raise the dead and judge the nations.
 
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I've never understood pre-trib. Jesus returns only once. He returns on the last day to raise the dead and judge the nations.
I am not sure if people just do not want to be around during that time and how many people HONESTY believe that. I have just started thinking pray for pre-trib and be ready for post-trib and realize that there is a chance that I will be gone anyway since we do not know when He is coming back.
 
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That is if pre- trib is correct. Which I am not claiming for sure that it is not, but recently I have started lending towards post-trib.

You will know the absolute truth - ABSOLUTE TRUTH - on the timing of the rapture if you trust what Jesus said.

How long did Jesus say Israel/Jerusalem would be desolated? They were desolated when God sent the Roman armies in 66-70AD. How long did JESUS say that desolation would last?

Jesus said:

Matt 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

How long has that "house" been gone?
Jesus said the tribulation began with the desolation of Israel and it is cut short before the time of wrath.
Why can't people see this? It's so obvious to me.

Matt 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken
Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?


Rev 7:
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, (5th seal) and palms in their hands;
10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
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13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.


1 Thess 4:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
 
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The political right certainly mocks him but the political left worships him.
Not all of them "worship" him...more and more are having second thoughts. The only ones really worshiping him are the ones getting free phones and The Crazy Hollywood peeps.
 
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You will know the absolute truth - ABSOLUTE TRUTH - on the timing of the rapture if you trust what Jesus said.

How long did Jesus say Israel/Jerusalem would be desolated? They were desolated when God sent the Roman armies in 66-70AD. How long did JESUS say that desolation would last?

Jesus said:

Matt 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

How long has that "house" been gone?
Jesus said the tribulation began with the desolation of Israel and it is cut short before the time of wrath.
Why can't people see this? It's so obvious to me.

Matt 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken
Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Beth, I am not saying that you are NO doubt wrong, but Jesus said no man shell know the day or hour, so while I see the events going on around the world and frankly believe and hope is coming back soon. I also know that no one knows, and thus am not putting any days months ECT on it. I BELIEVE He will likely come back during my lifetime, but I do not claim to KNOW that.
 
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Not all of them "worship" him...more and more are having second thoughts. The only ones really worshiping him are the ones getting free phones and The Crazy Hollywood peeps.
and the Bible says that the anti-Christ will be very well-liked around the world; this would only make sense if one world government were in place.
 
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Beth, I am not saying that you are NO doubt wrong, but Jesus said no man shell know the day or hour, so while I see the events going on around the world and frankly believe and hope is coming back soon. I also know that no one knows, and thus am not putting any days months ECT on it. I BELIEVE He will likely come back during my lifetime, but I do not claim to KNOW that.

It is written. It's right there for anyone who seeks it.
 
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I think BethWhite means well, and truly believes what she talks about. Who knows..she could be right or she could be wrong. I do appreciate her thoughts and I love her passion.

I have no idea when my time is up. Heck I could be hit by a train today, that is why I want to be my best each and every day.

I truly think if Beth missed the date she will admit she got it wrong, but if we don't hear from her and suddenly people are missing, im gonna be thinking "What the Heck did I do wrong"??


I'm just a sinner trying to be a good Christian and in my short time here I have learned so much from ALL of you!
 
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It is written. It's right there for anyone who seeks it.
Correct me if I am wrong but you seem to do predicting the day or at least the week.
 
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and the Bible says that the anti-Christ will be very well-liked around the world; this would only make sense if one world government were in place.
I agree, we are gearing up for a civil war here in the USA..people HATE him so much!!!! How on earth can he be the a/c when he is hated by so MANY!
 
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I think BethWhite means well, and truly believes what she talks about. Who knows..she could be right or she could be wrong. I do appreciate her thoughts and I love her passion.

I have no idea when my time is up. Heck I could be hit by a train today, that is why I want to be my best each and every day.

I truly think if Beth missed the date she will admit she got it wrong, but if we don't hear from her and suddenly people are missing, im gonna be thinking "What the Heck did I do wrong"??


I'm just a sinner trying to be a good Christian and in my short time here I have learned so much from ALL of you!
That is a bit how I feel except that I lean post-trib so if I am right we have quite a few things still to happen.
 
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