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I keep noticing it happen to people during different meetings. Wondering what it's about?
Just had a quick look for information about it, and there are many who say it is genuinely from the Holy Spirit, but there are also those who say it is something false. The Bible does not speak about it, or if it does, then vaguely.

What are peoples thoughts on this?
 

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Well theres certainly not a scripture that says and thus when the Spirit comes youll laugh your behind off, but there are two accounts in Acts that could be interpretted in that way. In Acts 8 when the Samaritans received the Holy Spirit, the Bible says people saw their reactions and manifestations and knew something incredible had happened. In acts 2 on Pentecost the church was filled and those standing around started jeering them thinking thy were drunk, so its possible I suppose but no definitive answer from the Bible. Atleast none that I know of.
 
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It definitely can be a powerful touch from God, particularly for some. It is not to be saught after. But ifvit happens, enjoy it. Whether or not it happens doesn't have any meaning. I've known people who've never experienced it who are far more anointed in the power if the Spirit than many i know whovseem to uncontrollably laugh at every spiritual experience. Unfortunately, as with everything, many err ny focusing on the laughter and seeking it or trying to make it happen in others. There are many who laughvas a way to draw at tention to themselves and to feel accepted. In other words, they're faking it. This is more true today. Revival groupies often show primed to laugh and don't even realize they're operating in the flesh.
 
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Are we somehow able to test it to see if it realy is the Holy Spirit? Does 1 John chapter 4 work in this situation?

The typical experience I hear relayed about this usually includes remarks like "I couldn't stop" or "it just took over" or "it overwhelmed me", etc.

One if the fruits if the Spirit is self control. If it violates this, it isn't the Spirit.
 
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Good question. The only test is the gift of discerning of spirits, which is letting the Holy Spirit tell you whether or not its from Him. Most of the time, if it happens, you just let it happen and not worry about it. My only red flags are when peoplecare seeking it or promoting it. There are dangers in seeking manifestations, easy for the flesh and enemy to get in there spoiling it. Another flag is when the laughter draws all attention tp someone and off the Lord. I recommend a side room to escort someone whose oit of control to let them the freedom to express without making the service all about them
 
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I get the laughter in my personal devotion times, sometimes it happens and I'm surprised by it.

I see it as an extension of joy.

I think it can also be of the flesh - that is someone can just be laughing. I have also been in a meeting in which the person standing next to me was laughing and it didn't feel comfortable. I think on that occasion there was probably a spirit other than the Holy Spirit behind it.

So there you have it - it can be God, the flesh or the devil. That's where discernment come in.

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I think discernment is key in any manifestation of the Spirit (1 John 4) but something I believe is that if the Holy Spirit is the One behind the manifestations there will be more than just one or two manifesting His presence and there will be the assurance. God unites and gives peace whereas Satan and demons bring division and chaos.
 
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The "drunk" in Acts 2 has differnet views as to why they presumed drunkeness, and lets not forget, peter gave a sound speech, well in control of himself, not exactly rolling on the floor giggling.

My other problem with it, is it often sounds sardonic, or fake, or pushed, and often people do it in certain churches, while the preacher is talking, talk about an unbeliever or a cessationist having ammo against any kind moves of the Spirit after observing that, and it can be out of order.

But sure, even the frog has had times of great joy in the Lord, and I did laugh.:)
 
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The typical experience I hear relayed about this usually includes remarks like "I couldn't stop" or "it just took over" or "it overwhelmed me", etc.

One if the fruits if the Spirit is self control. If it violates this, it isn't the Spirit.


I don't think this is a good test. Many people recognize the work of the HS by the fact that what is happening is somewhat out of their control. Otherwise, how do they know it's not just themselves?


The ability to throw cold water on the work of the Holy Spirit is probably something we all can do. Most of us do not care to try... but if we wanted to we could object to what the Spirit is doing and put a stop to it. Especially when it is our own participation that we are concerned with. I think this is always an option when it comes to manifestations of the Spirit.


People who use the phrase: "I couldn't stop" are not necessarily saying they were possessed by evil spirits. No, more often than not they are saying that the laughter (or whatever) was something that they didn't choose to do on their own. Perhaps the words they are using to describe the experience violates the scriptures in the way you suggest Faulty, but I don't think what they are meaning to say they were possessed beyond their control.
 
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I keep noticing it happen to people during different meetings. Wondering what it's about?
Just had a quick look for information about it, and there are many who say it is genuinely from the Holy Spirit, but there are also those who say it is something false. The Bible does not speak about it, or if it does, then vaguely.

What are peoples thoughts on this?

Issac!!!


The offspring of Abraham was named laughter.

Ps 78 Explains that He teaches us with parables and dark sayings

In Acts, when the Spirit fell, the non-believers thought the devote men were drunk!!

If you hear someone speaking in another language you don't think they are drunk, you just think they are foriegners. But the non-believers were scoffing at those who recieved the Spirit because they thought they were drunk!!

Why did they appear to be drunk, to the non-believer? And note: those non-believers were of the Jewish root.

Abraham was a man who believed. But the true Abraham is Jesus Christ, and if Abraham rightful heir was named laughter, then guess what? Those born of the Spirit have laughter. A Holy laughter. But then again, there were those Jews who did not recieve the Spirit and the Gifts of the Spirit.

So the Spirit came with tongues of fire, which not just produced men speaking in another language, but doing so as to appear drunk, not just foriegn.

So we see the the first born of Abraham is called laugther, we see Jesus explain that we must be born again, we see the first of those born again by the Spirit speaking in tongues and behaving in such a way as to be thought of as drunk (not just foriegn), then see people today suddenly filled with the Spirit which produces in them the speaking in tongues and Holy laughter, and we can't put the pieces together, even after we read a studied about all of it.

I would suggest the some need to start talking to the Lord, and see if He then doesn't send the Spirit which produces in you an Issac.
 
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Charles Spurgeon mentioned a ‘holy laughter’. Many have seen or experienced such a laughter. When one who has been shamed from sin, burdened by guilt, finds the forgiveness and love of Jesus, there can be a holy laughter or joy and peace. This is good, and of God.

Jonathan Edwards observed emotions of varying types in his ministry. There was ‘trembling, loud outcries, and agonies of soul."

John and Charles Wesley tell of a laughing spirit that needed a rebuke.
"In the evening, such a spirit of laughter was among us, that many were offended. But the attention of all was fixed on (one) poor (woman), whom we all knew was dissembled. One so violently and variously torn of the devil, one did I never see before. Sometimes, she laughed till almost strangled. Then they broke into cursing and blaspheming. Then stomped and struggled with incredible strength, so that four or five could scarcely hold her... It is important to note that prayer in the name of Jesus Christ brought instant deliverance to those under the spirit of laughter."

There are legitimate and God-inspired times of holy laughter, but there are also, devil inspired disruptions and distractions of laughter.

In 1994, at the Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship, during the service, people collapsed, laughed uncontrollably. Soon crowds of a thousand packed the place. By May of the next year, 700,000 people had visited the services.

The experience became known as the "Toronto Blessing". It was a physical phenomenon manifested by continuous laughter, gutteral utterances (animal noises) for an extended time.

Some believed it was a manifestation of the Holy Spirit. It occurred during preaching of the sermon, during the altar call, at prayer times. It can afflict one, several, or the whole congregation.

There would occur laughing hysterically, some falling over, some crumbling to the floor, jerking, twitching, screaming, swaying, roaring, barking like a dog, hooting like owls, crowing, mooing, oinking, hissing, etc. noises, dancing, squirming like snakes, hopping like kangaroos.

David Wilkerson in his sermon ‘Reproach of the Solemn Assembly’ as reported in Charisma magazine in October, 1999, said:
"I weep when I see these videos sent to me from all over the -country. Whole groups of bodies jerking out of control, falling on the floor, laughing hysterically, staggering around like drunkards."

Sinner and saints alike are taken in the laughing, and many a sinner has walked out, exhausted from the hysterical laughter, but still a sinner, still unrepentant. If mankind resolves sin, they receive real joy.

Psalms 51:8-12
"Make me to hear joy and gladness... restore unto me, the joy of Thy salvation."

"Holy hysteria" is the devil’s distraction from repentance. The adherents to this demonic doctrine say ‘receive it first, analyze it later." Do we do that with what we put into our mouths? No... and the Scriptural truth advises spirit, we do not accept any Scripture without testing it by the Word first.

I John 4:1
"...do not believe every but test the spirits, whether they are from God..."

I Thessalonians 5:21
"Test everything, hold on to the good."

The adherents say the Christian should lose control.

Demons are enthusiastic about this, for they seek yielded vessels submitting to their control. We are to give control to God, not to demons. Self control is a fruit of the Spirit, and to yield your self control is not even what the Lord asks of us. God never takes mankind out of control.

II Peter 1:5-9
"But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith, virtue; and to virtue, knowledge; to knowledge, self control; to self control, perseverance..."
 
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I think there's a reason why you don't find it in the Bible.

Guy Chevreau wrote about his wife in his book "Catch the Fire" about the Toronto Blessing:

"That, an the fact that Janis (his wife) 'took the joy'. That's not exactly the whole story. She was down on the floor, repeatedly, hysterical with laughter. At one point, John Arnott, the senior pastor as the Airport Vineyard, prayed that she would stay in this state for forty-eight hours. She was that, and more - at time unable to walk a straight line, certainly unfit to drive, or to host the guests that come for dinner the next evening."


Now she was not filled with wine like you might expect, she was filled with the Spiirt. But there are always going to be scoffers.


Acts 1:15-17 For these men are not drunk, as you suppose, for it is only the third hour of the day; but this is what was spoken of through the prophet Joel: 'AND IT SHALL BE INT HE LAST DAYS,' GOD SAYS, 'THAT I WILL POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT ON ALL MANKIND; AND YOUR SONS AND YOUR DAUGHTERS SHALL PROPHESY,...


So what happened, happened again. And still there were scoffers. There will be those that don't see it in the Bible, and there will be those like Peter which pointed out the explaination, but even those that have read Peters explaination, still don't see it in the Bible. And so it was back then too. The event took place, it was fortold in the Scriptures. Peter explained it, and still the blind are still blind.

The Laughter was explained!! Issac (laughter) was born and was the chosen son. Joel wrote about us being filled with the Spirit. Peter explained that we are not drunk, as you suppose, but still all is invisable to those that don't seek the Lord for cousnsel. They say it is not in the Scriptures, because they are blind. How did they miss the fact that there is a laughter (Issac) which is Holy from God, and it happens when you are filled with the Spirit! It happens when you are born again.

Sure, there is a repentance of sins, which comes from an awareness that your ways are not right. That brings tears, but the Holy Spirit being pour out on you brings laughter and the appearance of being drunk.
 
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If it is the real thing , which it can be, it is an awesome time of refreshing in The Lord. I don't have a set of rules to determine which one is true and which one is false..... The scripture is silent on how to discern that... My conclusion is that the scripture is silent because God did not want to tempt us to be busybodies into His business....These are one on one experiences between a person and God....


By the way , for those who are not aware of this. Yitzchak is Hebrew for laughter....Literally , he laughs.....
 
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Psalm 126:2
New King James Version (NKJV)
2 Then our mouth was filled with laughter,
And our tongue with singing.
Then they said among the nations,
“The Lord has done great things for them.”
 
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If it is the real thing , which it can be, it is an awesome time of refreshing in The Lord. I don't have a set of rules to determine which one is true and which one is false..... The scripture is silent on how to discern that... My conclusion is that the scripture is silent because God did not want to tempt us to be busybodies into His business....These are one on one experiences between a person and God....

I experienced this "movement" when I went to a Rodney Howard-Browne meeting at Church Without Walls..Back then it was called South Tampa Christian Center.. I went with a young brother in the Lord from our church..Something felt very strange there and I couldn't quite figure out what it was..I wanted all the Lord wanted me to have but I was already full of joy in the Holy Ghost..But you know, you always want whatever the Lord has to give you..

Anyway the young brother in the Lord was sitting to my left and I glanced over to see what he was doing but he wasn't there..I remember thinking why didnt he at least say he was leaving or something because there was so many people there, he may not find his way back to our seats..But I looked over to my left again and he was laying on the floor under the chairs..I had supposed he was slain in the Spirit...After about 10 minutes he gets up and just says wow that was weird..His hands were ringing wet as though water was poured over them...They were even dripping, yet his hands were cold to the touch so it wasnt sweat..

When we left I just didnt feel right..I felt as though the people there were there to "expect" to laugh and it was MANufactured...Rodney would speak in repeated monotones the same thing over and over exciting the crowd..I felt it wasnt of God, yet I knew there was a possibility of being drunk in the Spirit because many had written about such things in previous revivals...Well respected men too...

But something was nagging me about it...So Before I went to minister at the local nursing home with a friend I decide to stop by the church and pray since I was the youth pastor and had keys..As I began to pray the Lord began to give me scriptures about joy in the Holy Ghost etc..One of the scriptures he gave me was from Isaiah 12.

1And in that day thou shalt say, O LORD, I will praise thee: though thou wast angry with me, thine anger is turned away, and thou comfortedst me. 2Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation. 3Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation.

As I began to ponder and take all this in I remembered a sermon by someone about this scripture..About how you sow to reap and whatever seed you sow is the particular fruit you will reap, etc..

When suddenly it dawned on me that what the Lord was showing me hit like a brick..Verse three say with joy shall you draw water from the wells of salvation..Water is refreshing and is needed for life..Jesus even referred to Himself as the water of life that if you had you would never thirst again to the lady at the well..

I started to think wow..two wells....I started thinking about the newer wells also that must be primed with water before more water can be brought up from below..Thats when the joy hit me...It was a revelatory moment...With joy shall I draw refreshing from the wells of salvation...I began to get so happy and I was praising God and actually feeling tipsy..So many scriptures hit me at once it was overwhelming..I was thinking of the scriptures like overcoming by the word of my testimony which is actually giving praise to God for what he has done...This causes joy and refreshing to come...etc..

I could go on and on about this and many minute details but wont here as it lasted for me 4 days. It would subside and then when I "primed the pump" with joy over how God had worked in my life I would begin to feel drunk in the Spirit all over again..It even happened during the church service where I was part of the worship team...The pastor began laughing as well as the whole worship team..Soon the whole congregation was laughing and then they were coming to the front and repenting of sins and crying out to God..People that had been in that church for years were re-dedicating to the Lord and repenting of a lifetime of lukewarmness..

The experience for me was amazing..One second I would feel so overwhelmed with joy I thought I would have to sit down or would fall..Then suddenly all the things I worried about were flashing before my minds eye, and I felt grieved that I actually was being show things from the Lord that I worried about and lacked faith about...I would weep deeply and then start praising God that he showed me...During this time I was repenting in my spirit and then again the Joy would come through, and the cycle would repeat...

The devil tries to counterfeit everything but the fruit of repentance was upon me and many in the congregation that weekend...Unfortunately the young brother that attended the RHB meeting with me became very sporadic in attending church and eventually fell away from the Lord...
 
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I experienced this "movement" when I went to a Rodney Howard-Browne meeting at Church Without Walls..Back then it was called South Tampa Christian Center.. I went with a young brother in the Lord from our church..Something felt very strange there and I couldn't quite figure out what it was..I wanted all the Lord wanted me to have but I was already full of joy in the Holy Ghost..But you know, you always want whatever the Lord has to give you..

Anyway the young brother in the Lord was sitting to my left and I glanced over to see what he was doing but he wasn't there..I remember thinking why didnt he at least say he was leaving or something because there was so many people there, he may not find his way back to our seats..But I looked over to my left again and he was laying on the floor under the chairs..I had supposed he was slain in the Spirit...After about 10 minutes he gets up and just says wow that was weird..His hands were ringing wet as though water was poured over them...They were even dripping, yet his hands were cold to the touch so it wasnt sweat..

When we left I just didnt feel right..I felt as though the people there were there to "expect" to laugh and it was MANufactured...Rodney would speak in repeated monotones the same thing over and over exciting the crowd..I felt it wasnt of God, yet I knew there was a possibility of being drunk in the Spirit because many had written about such things in previous revivals...Well respected men too...

But something was nagging me about it...So Before I went to minister at the local nursing home with a friend I decide to stop by the church and pray since I was the youth pastor and had keys..As I began to pray the Lord began to give me scriptures about joy in the Holy Ghost etc..One of the scriptures he gave me was from Isaiah 12.

1And in that day thou shalt say, O LORD, I will praise thee: though thou wast angry with me, thine anger is turned away, and thou comfortedst me. 2Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation. 3Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation.

As I began to ponder and take all this in I remembered a sermon by someone about this scripture..About how you sow to reap and whatever seed you sow is the particular fruit you will reap, etc..

When suddenly it dawned on me that what the Lord was showing me hit like a brick..Verse three say with joy shall you draw water from the wells of salvation..Water is refreshing and is needed for life..Jesus even referred to Himself as the water of life that if you had you would never thirst again to the lady at the well..

I started to think wow..two wells....I started thinking about the newer wells also that must be primed with water before more water can be brought up from below..Thats when the joy hit me...It was a revelatory moment...With joy shall I draw refreshing from the wells of salvation...I began to get so happy and I was praising God and actually feeling tipsy..So many scriptures hit me at once it was overwhelming..I was thinking of the scriptures like overcoming by the word of my testimony which is actually giving praise to God for what he has done...This causes joy and refreshing to come...etc..

I could go on and on about this and many minute details but wont here as it lasted for me 4 days. It would subside and then when I "primed the pump" with joy over how God had worked in my life I would begin to feel drunk in the Spirit all over again..It even happened during the church service where I was part of the worship team...The pastor began laughing as well as the whole worship team..Soon the whole congregation was laughing and then they were coming to the front and repenting of sins and crying out to God..People that had been in that church for years were re-dedicating to the Lord and repenting of a lifetime of lukewarmness..

The experience for me was amazing..One second I would feel so overwhelmed with joy I thought I would have to sit down or would fall..Then suddenly all the things I worried about were flashing before my minds eye, and I felt grieved that I actually was being show things from the Lord that I worried about and lacked faith about...I would weep deeply and then start praising God that he showed me...During this time I was repenting in my spirit and then again the Joy would come through, and the cycle would repeat...

The devil tries to counterfeit everything but the fruit of repentance was upon me and many in the congregation that weekend...Unfortunately the young brother that attended the RHB meeting with me became very sporadic in attending church and eventually fell away from the Lord...

Yep - I was in those early Howard-Browne meetings as well and saw a mix of the flesh, but also a powerful move of the Spirit that I drank deeply from. One thing I noted was that Rodney always kept focused on Scripture over experience, repentance and saving the lost. I think that protected him from going off in the wrong direction too far. I have a profound appreciation for him and his ministry. There's much he gets blamed for, but he's also the only one who went to Todd Bentley at Lakeland and confronted him telling to stop teaching on angels and start preaching on Jesus. He was rebuffed, but at least he did it the right way and did what an elder should have done.
 
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well..since everyone is talking Rodney, he sure does set up witnessing as the be all end all, circumcision rite for the church..lol..

if u go there, u better witness, and hand out that formula tract they give ya...else!:preach:

He's an evangelist by calling. What do you expect? The question should instead be, why aren't we as focused on saving the lost as he is?
 
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