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The Sandy Hook Shooting - Fully Exposed

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I was simply making a point that people will buy just about anything, and that they are willing to sell us just about anything. The only way anyone can accept the "official" story on what happened at Sandy Hook is to throw out logic and just accept which ever story you get. I suppose it depends on what news agency you watch, since they all have different stories. I like how we have a reporter who talked to the school nurse out on the street even though the nurse was inside. Tons of video footage of multiple suspects being chased, and police scanner audio to confirm.

How about this at 7:57am before the shooting:
https://twitter.com/ljanyNT/status/279616136151183360

And this before the shooting as well:
https://twitter.com/matt_coyne/status/279635274944897024

Just look at this Google search. All I did was search for Sandy Hook School Support Fund, set the search by date range from December 1 to December 13 and sorted by date. Please explain to me exactly how there are cached results before the shooting? And keep in mind that I am president of a software company, so you can give me the deep down technical details of how Google's servers were running with their clocks out of whack while not causing conflicts with active directory and SSL authentication:

https://www.google.com/search?q=san...cdr:1,cd_min:12/1/2012,cd_max:12/13/2012&tbm=

Tell me, how much evidence do the people of this country need to finally realize what is going on?

That's published date,not last modified date.
 
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How about this at 7:57am before the shooting:
https://twitter.com/ljanyNT/status/279616136151183360

And this before the shooting as well:
https://twitter.com/matt_coyne/status/279635274944897024

Just look at this Google search. All I did was search for Sandy Hook School Support Fund, set the search by date range from December 1 to December 13 and sorted by date. Please explain to me exactly how there are cached results before the shooting?

All of this is easily explainable. None of it has anything to do with the mass shooting. And schools have "support funds" all the time.
 
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If you were the hero of a national tragedy, would your parents/relatives/gf etc have enough photos to give to the news? What are the chances that you had two separate photos of you wearing the same exact outfit in the same position and with the exact same expression? I challenge you to go through your photos and find 2 such photos. I have hundreds of photos of myself and I can't find 2 where I am wearing the exact same expression, in the exact same outfit, with the exact same pose.

Photoshopping and putting it on the news is deception, the same way air-brushing models to change/enhance their physical features on magazines is deceptive.

Where there is deception, there is a need to hide something. I thought everyone knew that?

If she actually died at Sandy Hook, still what does it prove?

That the media is making out shes a "better person" through pictures when in reality she deserved to die?

Because thats the only outcome you can get from this in the grand scheme of things.
 
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All of this is easily explainable.

Please explain, i'm all ears. Keep in mind that no matter what, the shooting happened on the 14th and the police we're notified at 9:35am. No web page, post, or anything else carrying a timestamp can exist before the fact unless there was something posted before the fact, this is how timestamps work. Please explain how this is possible?
 
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Please explain, i'm all ears. Keep in mind that no matter what, the shooting happened on the 14th and the police we're notified at 9:35am. No web page, post, or anything else carrying a timestamp can exist before the fact unless there was something posted before the fact, this is how timestamps work. Please explain how this is possible?

None of those things you linked referred to the mass shooting.
 
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Please explain, i'm all ears. Keep in mind that no matter what, the shooting happened on the 14th and the police we're notified at 9:35am. No web page, post, or anything else carrying a timestamp can exist before the fact unless there was something posted before the fact, this is how timestamps work. Please explain how this is possible?

There's a thing called timezones... I mean, you say the first one is at 7:37, but it shows as 6:37 for me here in PST. Which would be 9:37 EST. Which would be right around the time the cops were showing up.
 
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There's a thing called timezones... I mean, you say the first one is at 7:37, but it shows as 6:37 for me.

A point I forgot to make, twitter displays timestamps in YOUR timezone, which is why mine is different than yours. Mine is showing up at 7:37am Eastern time which is the same for Connecticut.

Radio dispatch went out at 9:35AM Eastern time.
 
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A point I forgot to make, twitter displays timestamps in YOUR timezone, which is why mine is different than yours. Mine is showing up at 7:37am Eastern time which is the same for Connecticut.

Radio dispatch went out at 9:35AM Eastern time.

Mine's showing as 6:37 Pacific time. Which would be 9:37 Eastern.

Radio dispatched at 9:35 Eastern. The cop shop is only a couple of miles away. Not unreasonable that they could arrive quickly.
 
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Mine's showing as 6:37 Pacific time. Which would be 9:37 Eastern.

My twitter account is set to Eastern time and my computer is set to Eastern time. Please check your Twitter account settings to be sure you have the correct timezone set. The time for me is still displaying the same.
 
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My twitter account is set to Eastern time and my computer is set to Eastern time. Please check your Twitter account settings to be sure you have the correct timezone set. The time for me is still displaying the same.

Thanks for pointing that out; while my computer is correct, my Twitter was set to the wrong timezone.

Unfortunately for your argument, it was set for Alaska time. When I correct it to Pacific time, which is one hour behind Alaska time, it actually means the pics were posted later than I originally thought. At 10:57 Eastern for the first one, not 9:57. Honestly, the fact that the guy was able to post pics of the cops so soon after they got the call concerned me at first until I saw that the cop station was only two miles away and it wasn't totally inconceivable that they could arrive at the school within a couple of minutes. Really quick response, but not impossible. But now it appears the photos were taken a good hour after the cops were called. So not a problem at all.
 
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I think I figured it out. I signed in and made sure my timezone was set to Eastern and it was, of course my system clock was on Eastern as well. After refreshing the time shows up the same, then all of a sudden it changed to 10:37 Eastern time. Just to see I changed the timezone in Twitter and refreshed and it took forever to get a change. There may be an issue when you visit a twitter post while you are not signed in, it may default to the timezone from the area where the server resides, not your local time. Signing in may have kicked my timezone into gear, but due to the browser cache may have taken longer to update. These twitter posts are starting to look like something to scratch off my list, except for the suspect sitting in the front of the police car of course.

I'm going to put that one on a back shelf. Beyond the twitter posts, the search results showing entries days before the incident cannot be explained by any kind of a timezone, because you are talking about a period beyond 24 hours. I think one of the biggest pieces of evidence is the cached story from the Newtown bee that was captured from Microsoft's Bing servers. Of course Microsoft removed the page, which is highly suspicious. But once again their too late, the page has already been downloaded.

I don't know if anyone heard but there was a shooting at Lone Star College in Houston, TX. Here is the live feed:
MyFoxHoustonLIVE.com | Live Houston news video - Houston weather, traffic, news | FOX 26 | MyFoxHouston

The amazing thing about the footage I am seeing today is it's very comprehensive. The sheriffs department has done a great job keeping open communication with the media, making sure every detail is clear. This shooting looks so much different than Newtown, i'm not seeing conflicting stories, not seeing the police dodge questions. The police we're looking for multiple suspects and they told this to the media very quickly, not like Newtown where it's on camera and they avoid it at all costs. It seems nobody was killed, 4 people are hurt, suspects are in custody. Thank God!
 
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As a woman, a regular user of photoshop, and an artist who constantly studies human anatomy from both medical text books and instructions on human proportions and drawing the skeleton, I feel qualified to say that whoever originally drew these conclusions from this photo is an idiot of startling proportions.

I happen to be sitting in almost that exact pose right now, and I assure you it is possible. What you think is the continuation of her leg is actually her sweater bunched up over her hip. There's no cut away on her skirt, merely a highlight, and her finger is perfectly normal--you are mistaking a bit of shadow under her finger for a continuation of the finger itself.

Of course the rest of this thread is complete nonsense as well, but as this is actually one of my few areas of expertise, I thought I'd weigh in.

For anyone inclined to believe the above, here are some pics for comparison, which are all believable:

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depositphotos_5159232-Smiley-happy-couple-sitting-on-the-floor.jpg


depositphotos_10726790-Ballerina-sitting-on-the-floor.jpg

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Each of the above photos is believable for the same reason the Soto photo is not believable. Legs match with torso. One doesn't need to be an "expert in human anatomy and photoshop" to see this. But you do need to suspend belief in the trustworthiness of corporate mass media and the emotional web they have woven to even consider it.
 
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I'm going to put that one on a back shelf. Beyond the twitter posts, the search results showing entries days before the incident cannot be explained by any kind of a timezone, because you are talking about a period beyond 24 hours. I think one of the biggest pieces of evidence is the cached story from the Newtown bee that was captured from Microsoft's Bing servers. Of course Microsoft removed the page, which is highly suspicious. But once again their too late, the page has already been downloaded.

Hasn't that already been addressed regarding "date created" versus "date modified"?

I don't know if anyone heard but there was a shooting at Lone Star College in Houston, TX. Here is the live feed:
MyFoxHoustonLIVE.com | Live Houston news video - Houston weather, traffic, news | FOX 26 | MyFoxHouston

The amazing thing about the footage I am seeing today is it's very comprehensive. The sheriffs department has done a great job keeping open communication with the media, making sure every detail is clear. This shooting looks so much different than Newtown, i'm not seeing conflicting stories, not seeing the police dodge questions. The police we're looking for multiple suspects and they told this to the media very quickly, not like Newtown where it's on camera and they avoid it at all costs. It seems nobody was killed, 4 people are hurt, suspects are in custody. Thank God!

Yeah, I heard. Horrible, but somewhat fortunately not as bad.

As for the cops, Newton is a quiet town of 28,000. Houston is the fourth-largest city in the country. Dealing with shootings and the media is probably much more a part of their training that for the cops in Newton. Especially on something the scale of a multiple shooting.

But what you seem to be implying is that you think, so far, that this is a legitimate, non-conspiracy, non-false flag mass shooting. Correct? Of course, you can't say for sure so soon, but that is what you were going for, right?
 
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Beyond the twitter posts, the search results showing entries days before the incident cannot be explained by any kind of a timezone, because you are talking about a period beyond 24 hours. I think one of the biggest pieces of evidence is the cached story from the Newtown bee that was captured from Microsoft's Bing servers.

Your "story" was merely raising funds for the school? How is this suspicious? Schools do that all the time.
 
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Hasn't that already been addressed regarding "date created" versus "date modified"?



Yeah, I heard. Horrible, but somewhat fortunately not as bad.

As for the cops, Newton is a quiet town of 28,000. Houston is the fourth-largest city in the country. Dealing with shootings and the media is probably much more a part of their training that for the cops in Newton. Especially on something the scale of a multiple shooting.

But what you seem to be implying is that you think, so far, that this is a legitimate, non-conspiracy, non-false flag mass shooting. Correct? Of course, you can't say for sure so soon, but that is what you were going for, right?

No, too soon to say anything, although I have a good feeling that this is just a regular shooting between two people who had an altercation. I just noticed that the media coverage seems to be done very well, where Sandy Hook is literally a mess. I just would think that they would be able to get just as good of coverage in Newtown like they did in Houston. It's only 6:13pm and their close to wrapping up and opening the campus tomorrow. I watched the all the coverage from Home - Houston weather, traffic, news | FOX 26 | MyFoxHouston and it was very detailed. They got really detailed with questions about the shooters, how many shots fired, they really asked a lot of questions when talking to the police. With Newtown every media reports starts out with a basic overview, then a real quick jump away from any detail. It looks like the sheriffs department made a big point to be as transparent as possible. They got there fast, only two minutes, they did a great job. They also talked about legislation their talking about that will open up funding for communities to protect their schools. They said that the funds will be controlled locally so parents can come together with the schools and decide how THEY want their kids protected. Sounds like a good step in the right direction. I'm tired of hearing what the media wants everyone to do, give local parents control, it's their kids for crying out loud.
 
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I'm going to put that one on a back shelf. Beyond the twitter posts

No no, you can't! The picture was taken at 7:57, so if your clocks were only off by 1 hour that still means the picture was taken at 8:57 - well before the tragedy at Sandy Hook.

Nevermind that neither of those posts have anything to do with the mass shooting. Police leading a handcuffed man out of the woods? What's that got to do with it? One Police car parked in the school parking lot? Yeah, we know a cop was stationed there, with his marked car. It's got absolutely nothing to do with the mass shooting.
 
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