the Apostle Paul kept the Torah!

[cyberlizard]

I wasn't the one asserting or questioning it. That anti-Paul site was

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do you find their opinions valid or invalid and why?


Steve

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

do you find their opinions valid or invalid and why?


Steve

I find that site's view heretical/anti-christian, as I do any member of Christianity that views Paul in the way that site does.
There are some anti-Paul members in the MJ sect from what I here.

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[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by cyberlizard so he was two faced with double standards... is that what you are saying.


Moses says anyone who teaches others to disobey the commandments is a false prophet... either Moses is right, or Paul is generally misunderstood.

Steve

That is the opinion of the non-Christian Jews and Muslims

well..obviously paul was talking ceremony in 1 cor 9.

no, paul did not go around commiting adultery, and i di dnot steal a car today.

What about tomorrow?

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[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus I wasn't the one asserting or questioning it. That anti-Paul site was

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do you find their opinions valid or invalid and why?


Steve

I find that site's view heretical/anti-christian, as I do any member of Christianity that views Paul in the way that site does.
There are some anti-Paul members in the MJ sect from what I here.

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Well?


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[parsonsmom]

Greetings Little Lamb; Only bornagain believers should partake in comunion;otherwise they would be drinking unworthly; and a believer must repent before taking.
Respectfully; Parsonsmom.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Apostle Paul kept the Tora!

http://www.christianforums.com/t7675856-2/#post61081031

Paul keeping the Torah was brought up in the thread quoted above by a member.

Can anyone here prove Paul didn't keep the Torah?

Greetings Little Lamb; Only bornagain believers should partake in comunion;otherwise they would be drinking unworthly; and a believer must repent before taking.
Respectfully; Parsonsmom.

Not sure how that applies to the OP, but can you elaborate?



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[MoreCoffee]

I wonder ... did saint Paul eat pork?

I bet he would have liked bacon if they had bacon back then

 

[brinny]

http://www.christianforums.com/t7675856-2/#post61081031

Paul keeping the Torah was brought up in the thread quoted above by a member.
Can anyone here prove Paul didn't keep the Torah?

The question is, did Paul keep the Torah after his conversion?

 

[Mazock]

He observed the feasts.

Acts 18:20 NKJV
When they asked him to stay a longer time with them, he did not consent, 21 but took leave of them, saying, “I must by all means keep this coming feast in Jerusalem;[c] but I will return again to you, God willing.” And he sailed from Ephesus.

 

[Mazock]

I just caught this as well.

Paul took a Nazarite vow.

Acts 18:18 NKJV
18 So Paul still remained a good while. Then he took leave of the brethren and sailed for Syria, and Priscilla and Aquila were with him. He had his hair cut off at Cenchrea, for he had taken a vow.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus

http://www.christianforums.com/t7675856-2/#post61081031

Paul keeping the Torah was brought up in the thread quoted above by a member.
Can anyone here prove Paul didn't keep the Torah?
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The question is, did Paul keep the Torah after his conversion?

Good question.
I might also ask, didn't Jesus and the other Apostles keep the Torah?
How did Paul keep it any differently than them? Just curious

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[brinny]

That IS a good question, and this is where i gets confused....the Torah is the laws isn't it? If so, Jesus didn't as He broke the "Sabbath" at least twice, and on one of those occasions He stated that not only is the "sabbath" made for man, and not man made for the sabbath, but that He is LORD of the Sabbath.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Saint Paul could not have kept Torah because he preaches Christ. The two are not compatible as saint Paul himself states - if you rely on the Law then you have fallen from grace (Galatians 5:1-4).

 

[dollarsbill]

Saint Paul could not have kept Torah because he preaches Christ. The two are not compatible as saint Paul himself states - if you rely on the Law then you have fallen from grace (Galatians 5:1-4).

1 Corinthians 9:20 (NASB)
20 To the Jews I became as a Jew, so that I might win Jews; to those who are under the Law, as under the Law though not being myself under the Law, so that I might win those who are under the Law;

 

[Mazock]

And yet he observed the Lord's Feasts. He took a Nazarite Vow. He was arrested for entering the temple to perform a cleansing sacrifice.

He circumcised Timothy AFTER teaching that Christ will be of no use to you if you become circumcised.

Did Paul hate Timothy? Why would he want to condemn Timothy to hell?

 

[thereselittleflower]

http://www.christianforums.com/t7675856-2/#post61081031

Paul keeping the Torah was brought up in the thread quoted above by a member.
Can anyone here prove Paul didn't keep the Torah?

He told people to eat anything in the market place without asking questions. Foods sold in the market place were offered to idols first; most meats sold were unclean according to the Torah, etc.

Yet, Paul ate and instructed believers to eat such foods contrary to the Torah.

Additionally, Paul took Peter to task for giving into those of the circumcision and withdrawing from the gentiles with whom he had been living AS a gentile. Paul did not rebuke him for living as a gentile, but for stopping that practice when those of the circumcision arrived and causing others to do the same by his example.


Very against the Torah.


Paul said he became a Jew to the Jews, A GENTILE TO THE GENTILES.

The Torah had no control over him.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

And yet he observed the Lord's Feasts. He took a Nazarite Vow. He was arrested for entering the temple to perform a cleansing sacrifice.

He circumcised Timothy AFTER teaching that Christ will be of no use to you if you become circumcised.

Did Paul hate Timothy? Why would he want to condemn Timothy to hell?

I would think not

1Ti 1:2
To Timothy, my true child in the faith:
Grace, mercy, and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord.

2Ti 1:2
To Timothy, my beloved child:
Grace, mercy, and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord.

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[dollarsbill]

And yet he observed the Lord's Feasts. He took a Nazarite Vow. He was arrested for entering the temple to perform a cleansing sacrifice.

He circumcised Timothy AFTER teaching that Christ will be of no use to you if you become circumcised.

Did Paul hate Timothy? Why would he want to condemn Timothy to hell?

They did so for appearance sake. It clearly says so in the same verse I cited.

 

[ananda]

They did so for appearance sake. It clearly says so in the same verse I cited.

"appearance sake" is another word for "deception", is it not?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

"appearance sake" is another word for "deception", is it not?

Even the evil spirits recognized Paul

http://www.christianforums.com/t7716323/#post62192979

That reminds me of this event in Acts 19

Acts 19
13 Then some of the itinerant Jewish exorcists undertook to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who had evil spirits, saying, “I adjure you by the Jesus whom Paul proclaims.”
14 Seven sons of a Jewish high priest named Sceva were doing this.
15 But the evil spirit answered them, “Jesus I know, and Paul I recognize, but who are you?”
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