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Right ... I understand you believe the DSP (distant state past) continued on past the Fall. I was just answering from my perspective.

It takes time to completely ruin perfection. ;)
Ok, you said this is what "we" mean so I just wanted to be clear I am not in the we...and that the DSP really isn't either, since I kinda started the thing.
 
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Collateral damage is an unfortunate part of military actions. I find that less deplorable than God instructing the Hebrews to destroy all inhabitants of cities and even their animals, or making them slaves.
Great so if anyone cares what you think is right or wrong over what God does that might matter. As for 'collateral damage' that is just another phrase for killing babies and civilians. When God ordered a hit it was for a reason.
 
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What should He have done?
Good question. Not nuke Hiroshima and not destroy wedding and civilians, and funerals where people killed by drones were being grieved by others who had the funeral targeted etc. My suggestion would be to unilaterally destroy all womd, repent, and trust God to defend the country. For Israel I would suggest apologizing to the neighbors, agreeing to move out of the land till God brings em back, destroying all nukes...etc. Something tells me we may not see things perfectly in sync here:)

PS I see you said "He" I thought it was "we" as in the US or west. OK, He should have ensured that man had a way to salvation despite very evil men...just as He did.
 
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What sort"??

The sort that shows you are right. because you;ve never produced any so far!

No need there is no one able to dispute them. God wind by default.

This atrocious logic is typical of what I expect from you.

I dispute them. So, to convince me otherwise, show me proof that they are accurate.

Congrats...was it expensive?

Freely available to everyone. You just gotta open your eyes. I suggest you try it some time.
 
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The sort that shows you are right. because you;ve never produced any so far!
The science sort you fail to support. The God sort I am all over.

I dispute them. So, to convince me otherwise, show me proof that they are accurate.
You would need reasons to dispute God's word.
 
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Great so if anyone cares what you think is right or wrong over what God does that might matter. As for 'collateral damage' that is just another phrase for killing babies and civilians. When God ordered a hit it was for a reason.

Grow up.
 
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The science sort you fail to support. The God sort I am all over.

You still haven't produced a shred of evidence.

You would need reasons to dispute God's word.

There's no support for YOUR claims. Would you care to support them? I'm going to guess no, since you've never supported them before.

Just out of curiosity, how old are you, dad?
 
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Yeah, and something like that would leave a huge signal in all kinds of records (geological, fossil, etc), unless it was purposedly changed to mislead, which I think both you and I agree it is not the case.
No death prior to the Fall, yet you expect 'a huge signal' in the fossil record?

That's like saying no ice cubes melted in the refrigerator until the plug was pulled, and someone saying, "If that was the case, it would leave a huge signal in all kinds of items inside, unless the [thawed] items were purposedly placed in it to mislead."
 
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Nope ... I didn't walk the halls of higher aceldama.

You genuinely think the idea of God supporting one side in a war isn't utterly and completely stupid? Seriously?

Oh, and throwing in your prejudice against education was...what exactly?
 
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You genuinely think the idea of God supporting one side in a war isn't utterly and completely stupid? Seriously?
Exodus 14:14 The LORD shall fight for you, and ye shall hold your peace.

Deuteronomy 1:30 The LORD your God which goeth before you, he shall fight for you, according to all that he did for you in Egypt before your eyes;

Deuteronomy 3:22 Ye shall not fear them: for the LORD your God he shall fight for you.

Deuteronomy 20:4 For the LORD your God is he that goeth with you, to fight for you against your enemies, to save you.

Oh, and throwing in your prejudice against education was...what exactly?
Free.
 
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Exodus 14:14 The LORD shall fight for you, and ye shall hold your peace.

Deuteronomy 1:30 The LORD your God which goeth before you, he shall fight for you, according to all that he did for you in Egypt before your eyes;

Deuteronomy 3:22 Ye shall not fear them: for the LORD your God he shall fight for you.

Deuteronomy 20:4 For the LORD your God is he that goeth with you, to fight for you against your enemies, to save you.

Yes, I'm aware of what the old testament says about God. Now, has it seriously never in your life occurred to you that the idea of God supporting one side in a war isn't completely and utterly stupid?

So innocent.
 
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Yes, I'm aware of what the old testament says about God. Now, has it seriously never in your life occurred to you that the idea of God supporting one side in a war isn't completely and utterly stupid?
I'll ask this a second time ... (it was rhetorical the first time, but obviously someone doesn't get it):

What do you want God to do, fight against Himself?
 
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I'll ask this a second time ... (it was rhetorical the first time, but obviously someone doesn't get it):

What do you want God to do, fight against Himself?


Has it really never occurred to you that merely by supporting any side in a war He would be doing that very thing??
 
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You genuinely think the idea of God supporting one side in a war isn't utterly and completely stupid? Seriously?

I have no idea what led you to that conclusion. Even while teaching undergrad non-majors stuck in my survey course (because it was the only way they could earn their humanities divisional requirement without getting out of bed before 10:30am), not one ever expressed confusion over why YHWH sided against the Canaanites.

Perhaps you are simply being facetious. In any case, I'm not clear on how your interjection fits into the context of the thread.
 
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