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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
Scientific Noah's flood.
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I agree ... I don't see Europe that way; but then, I've never been there.
For what it's worth though, I believe the Antichrist will come from an European nation.
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You believe .... what? You believe the antichrist *rolls eyes* will come from Europe?
Any particular European nation? France? Germany? Spain? Italy? Moldova? Hungary? Ireland? Montenegro? Belarus? Liechtenstein perhaps? Surely you can narrow it down a bit.
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In my earlier days it was called the European Common Market ... then, I believe, it was called the European Union.
In any event, he will arise from some kind of ten-nation confederation.
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Not all American Indians were blood thirsty salvages. I do feel sorry for the ones that got caught in between in that struggle. Oh wait, was this another of your attempts at Historical Revisionism? Kinda makes me wonder if people can not figure out what was going on 100 years ago or 200 years ago. Then how are they going to figure out what was going on thousands of years ago. How do they expect us to believe their story about what was going on millions and billions of years ago? Anyways, the problem was really more of problem with the French giving them guns. That is why they chased the French about as far as they could to Montreal Canada and all the way down to New Orleans.I wonder if the American Indians share your views
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Me to person on left: Did he really just say that?
Person on left: Yes, I think so.
Me: Wow. Do you think he was being serious?
Person on left: I'm not sure. We'll have to wait and see I think.
Me: Pass the popcorn.
This is one of those times when it's just fun to sit back and enjoy the show.
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What did they salvage? You "feel sorry" for them? How nice of you, I also "feel sorry" for the protestant persecuted in the 1500s, but hey, at least there were just about 300 killed (instead of the millions of Native Americans) and the ones that survived had a place to go.
So, just to clear things up, in your opinion, how many Native Americans were "blood thirsty savages"?
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Actually yes, I am pretty serious about this one. Although my first wife was like 1/4 native american indian. I also have very good friends that are pure native american indian. I have read quite a few books written by people back then, which was not all that long ago.
I read a story about some indians that went into a white man settlement and kidnapped a child. One thing that was interesting about that story: They were upstream, so as they were running to excape they made a dug out canoe from a tree trunk and it only took them about 4 or 5 hours. I was surprised they were able to make it that fast. Although if they wanted to go up stream they would have had to use deer skins and branches. That would have taken longer I am sure. But it would have been light enough to forge to get around any rapids or water falls.
Funny thing was the child developed a bit of stockholm syndrome. They would treat their slaves pretty good. Some of those so called half breeds back then were actually white people that were raised by the Indians and never really fit back into the white man's world. So they became scouts and did more wilderness type work.
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There is no term describing recycled fossils in the geological sciences, mainly because in the sense you mean, they don't exist. However, there is the term "transported assemblages", which generally means transported from one environment or origin to another. This happens most often in marine environments where swift currents are encountered or on land by stream transport. This happens before they actually become fossils.
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Yes, compared to the Holocaust were there were more like five or six or more million killed.
I am not taking sides in the American Indian war. I am just saying one is not any more or less to blame then the other.
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No no no. It is a very different idea.
Reworked fossil (OK, use the formal name) means fossil eroded out of "rock" and redeposited. It is entirely different from merely transportation or relocation. In oil industry, reworked fossil may cause erroneous identification of strata.
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Not if the strata is properly interpreted. The reworked fossil carries evidence of being reworked, as others have pointed out.
More importantly, I am still curious how one falsifies a recent global flood. What features must a geologic formation have in order to falsify a recent global flood according to you?
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I do. And without any direct proof of those written about.
But I have direct proof of OTHER events that lead me to
believe and trust that the documented ones are factual.
The entire Bible is the same. Some parts are down-right weird.
But I have confirmation on enough of the less weird parts to
be able to accept the entire collection as the True Word of God.
In other words, the Bible is right about some things, so you conclude it is right about ALL things.
Do you see the flaw in that logic?
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Please tell me why such a fossil would confuse anyone, given that if it was eroded out of rock the fossil itself would bear clear evidence of this.
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Source?
The correct term is "transported assemblages", not reworked or recycled, and you are omitting the most important point from my previous post; "transported to another environment before being fossilized." And it has already been pointed out to you that those transported assemblages bear the obvious marks of transport. I suppose an ICR trained geologist would have trouble identifying them for obvious reasons, they are lacking significantly in the area of sedimentary petrology and paleontology.
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