Do Orthodox believe in the Assumption of Mary?

[OpenDoor]

I know that this is a later Roman Catholic dogma, but do Orthodox believe essentially the same thing?

If it is different in what ways?

 

[gzt]

We believe in the Dormition and then Assumption. ie, we believe the Virgin Mary died and then was assumed into heaven. This is what many Catholics believe, as well, but some Catholics believe she was assumed into heaven without dying (we do not believe that).

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

Good answer

We believe in the Dormition and then Assumption. ie, we believe the Virgin Mary died and then was assumed into heaven. This is what many Catholics believe, as well, but some Catholics believe she was assumed into heaven without dying (we do not believe that).

 

[ArmyMatt]

what gzt said. you will usually hear it called her Dormition and her bodily translation, because she had died.

 

[wynd]

Interestingly, the papal document that defines the dogma of the Assumption says in several places that she died, just not in the "infallible declaration" section.

 

[Lukaris]

Catholics regard St. John of Damascus as one of the great church fathers & 3 sermons of his on the Dormition of the Theotokos are on record:

Monachos.net - John of Damascus, Homily 1 on the Dormition of the Theotokos

 

[Dorothea]

We believe in the Dormition and then Assumption. ie, we believe the Virgin Mary died and then was assumed into heaven. This is what many Catholics believe, as well, but some Catholics believe she was assumed into heaven without dying (we do not believe that).

Also, it's not a dogma in our Church.

 

[bibledoctor]

Whether the virgin mary was assumed is a matter of theological opinion - Theologumena ...

 

[Kristos]

Whether the virgin mary was assumed is a matter of theological opinion - Theologumena ...

I wouldn't say that. The text of the service is pretty clear that after she died, she was translated bodily to heaven. That is one of the main theological points of the feast - the first fruits of the Resurrection.

 

[bibledoctor]

I wouldn't say that. The text of the service is pretty clear that after she died, she was translated bodily to heaven. That is one of the main theological points of the feast - the first fruits of the Resurrection.

Doesn't the Church dedicate a day on the calendar for the non-religious?...

 

[SeraphimSarov]

Whether the virgin mary was assumed is a matter of theological opinion - Theologumena ...

Protestant Jews may not teach in this forum, especially when they're dead wrong.

Just sayin'.

 

[Lukaris]

Protestant Jews may not teach in this forum, especially when they're dead wrong.

Just sayin'.

He always has a different religion. I don't get it?

 

[choirfiend]

It''s not dogma in teh sense that it's not in our creed or anything, but it's definitely THE teaching of the church. Does that make it dogma? I kinda think so. Does that make is salvific? Probably not.

 

[Dorothea]

It''s not dogma in teh sense that it's not in our creed or anything, but it's definitely THE teaching of the church. Does that make it dogma? I kinda think so. Does that make is salvific? Probably not.

Right. Only things that are salvific to our souls are dogma in the Orthodox Church.

 

[Kristos]

I wouldn't call it dogma or doctrine either. It's more pedagogical in a contemplative sense, which of course could be salvific if it leads us to the Truth.

 

[ArmyMatt]

my priest in York says we confess it because it happened, and because her translation is a solid reminder of the Resurrection that will happen in the end.

 

[bibledoctor]

Basically, all you have to do is sign-up and register - just enter in the information that helps identify you as to where you stand on your beliefs & religion.

 

[Nephi]

I know that this is a later Roman Catholic dogma, but do Orthodox believe essentially the same thing?

If it is different in what ways?

Yes, we believe the same thing and it is the teaching of Orthodoxy regardless of it being called "dogma" or not. There's even a fast/feast dedicated to it!

Just in case there is any confusion here, "Assumption" = "Dormition." It is contemporary Catholics (and from what I've gathered, of a mistaken persuasion) that think that Mary was assumed without first dying. See:

The Church has never formally defined whether she died or not, and the integrity of the doctrine of the Assumption would not be impaired if she did not in fact die, but the almost universal consensus is that she did die. Pope Pius XII, in Munificentissimus Deus (1950), defined that Mary, "after the completion of her earthly life" (note the silence regarding her death), "was assumed body and soul into the glory of heaven."

From: Immaculate Conception and Assumption | Catholic Answers

 

[choirfiend]

Dogma doesn't mean salvific. It means taught as truth, absolutely. So I would call it a dogma.

 

[jckstraw72]

it seems kinda reductionist to me to ask whether or not its salvific to believe it -- the Church doesnt waste its time presenting us with things that don't lead us to salvation.