Romney just cost himself the election

[Jeffwhosoever]

I simply didn't want him to think this was either acceptable or would be allowed to continue.

I was not shouting. That is simply a larger font and in red. I wanted to ensure he got the point (since clearly he doesn't know simple rules like how to delete portions of others quotations without the usual "..." that is added in. I am hoping that I keep him from doing something actually quite bad with someone's quotes. He didn't really alter mine that dramatically but if he is going to play these sorts of games he needs to be quite careful. I am doing him a favor if you will.)

You are just mad the same things can be said about Obama, point for point.

 

[TeddyReceptus]

OK, done. I don't think it will be terribly difficult discerning the changes with our without () but I did it anyways.

Oh, yikes. I didn't realize you have no idea what I'm talking about! Oh my.

I'm so sorry.

No, when one quotes someone and they remove a portion of that person's sentences they place a series of 3 dots ... in the place where they removed it.

I believe you may be thinking of "parentheses", but that isn't what is normally done.

Here's a few helpful websites:
Ellipses (GRAMMAR GIRL)
Ellipsis (WIKIPEDIA)

My apologies for assuming you knew the first thing about the use of quotations.

Well at least I've done my duty to hopefully educate.

 

[Boondock_Saint]

Paul Ryan 2016
It won't change how I will vote. Although what he said was true, that doesn't mean you should say it. Especially when the Liberal media is waiting to crucify you.

Romney is now almost as bad as Biden.

 

[Orange_County_Chopper]

Looks like people are trying to bring back an obama love fest. lol

 

[Sistrin]

I was not shouting. That is simply a larger font and in red.

In internet parlance that is called shouting.

 

[Jeffwhosoever]

Well at least I've done my duty to hopefully educate.

OK, are you now happy?

 

[TeddyReceptus]

In internet parlance that is called shouting.

Pssst, I know that. I just find "Internet Mommies" to be annoying so I was hoping to annoy you too.

 

[NightHawkeye]

In case anyone is interested in FACTS:

 

[Jeffwhosoever]

I did a check, and the limit for paying NO federal income tax is an adjusted gross income of $9,700. Add to that the personal exemption of $3,800, and you have $13,500 of income without paying a dime in federal income tax, and that assumes zero other dependents or deductions, which would raise the threshold income above $13,500.

Yes, this isn't a great wage, but zero federal income taxes?

 

[Illuminaughty]

He didn't say they don't care about their lives, he said he wouldn't be able to convince them to take personal responsibility and care for their lives.

Why on earth would he think a person doesn't take responsibility simply because they don't earn enough money to be liable for income taxation? They are irresponsible because they aren't being paid more for their labor? You can't see how that might be a little insulting to people who are scraping buy during this economic downturn?

Also, Not paying income taxes =/= on welfare, food stamps, housing assistance, etc... to begin with.

I was paying zero income tax for a while back when I had a lower paying job as a single parent. I was never on any of those social safety net programs. The former doesn't necessarily imply the later. He is lumping nearly half the American population into the irresponsible category because he doesn't understand their plight.

 

[DrkSdBls]

I could run against Obama and win.

You'd have a Better shot then Romney.

 

[TeddyReceptus]

OK, are you now happy?

Actually I'm kinda sad. I honestly didn't know you had no idea what common courtesy related to quotes included.

I realize that you didn't significantly alter the meaning of my quotes, but you could easily slip up someday and, since you don't know how to deal with other people's quotes you might one day step in it.

I feel bad that I came out so hard on you when this is apparently unknown territory for you. My apologies.

Well at least now you know.

 

[TeddyReceptus]

You are just mad the same things can be said about Obama, point for point.

No, Jeff, I tend to get mad when people attribute an altered quote to me without the proper indication of deletions.

That is why I came out strongly.

You see, Jeff, I have been a published researcher and I've worked around journalists as well, and those kinds of things become very important to someone. When one writes stuff as part of their job for publication it is crucial that the quotes be treated with significant respect for the potential of misrepresentation.

While yours wasn't that bad a case of it, it threw off my alarms and so I came down harder on you than I should have considering your lack of education in this area.

 

[Jeffwhosoever]

Actually I'm kinda sad. I honestly didn't know you had no idea what common courtesy related to quotes included.

I realize that you didn't significantly alter the meaning of my quotes, but you could easily slip up someday and, since you don't know how to deal with other people's quotes you might one day step in it.

I feel bad that I came out so hard on you when this is apparently unknown territory for you. My apologies.

Well at least now you know.

We are cool.

Now, what do you think about income tax?

 

[Touma]

I did a check, and the limit for paying NO federal income tax is an adjusted gross income of $9,700. Add to that the personal exemption of $3,800, and you have $13,500 of income without paying a dime in federal income tax, and that assumes zero other dependents or deductions, which would raise the threshold income above $13,500.

Yes, this isn't a great wage, but zero federal income taxes?

Mind you, they pay other taxes (payroll, sales, gasoline, etc).

 

[Jeffwhosoever]

Mind you, they pay other taxes (payroll, sales, gasoline, etc).

I know - we are all taxed to death. Trouble is, there seems to be a mindset that taxes are the solution to the economic problems.

 

[Yekcidmij]

Isn't it important to understand that both the consumer and producer are equally important? That neitehr the capitalist nor the laborer are more important than each other? You need both for a functioning economy, so quit trying to punish everyone who falls outside of your favorite economic class.

 

[Nurbz]

I know - we are all taxed to death. Trouble is, there seems to be a mindset that taxes are the solution to the economic problems.

"It is not unreasonable the the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion"
-Adam Smith, "The Wealth of Nations", author and father of modern capitalism.

"No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable."
-Adam Smith, "The Wealth of Nations"

 

[DrkSdBls]

I know - we are all taxed to death. Trouble is, there seems to be a mindset that taxes are the solution to the economic problems.

Taxes are neither the Problem nor the Solution.

The Problem lays is the Irresponsible and Wasteful uses of Taxes that put us into this state we are in. Cutting Taxes aren't going to solve it. Adding more Taxes probably isn't going to solve it either but it would make the burden more manageable. But no one wants to Pile on any more Taxes. What we DO want is to take all the greedy hands out of our Piggy Bank long enough to put that money into Proper investments that show more return rather then continue throwing money into the Toilet.

Countries Function on both Taxes and Federal Income. Since NO government can function on Federal Income alone, Taxes are a Necessary "Evil." The Bigger the Country Grows, the Bigger the Government Grows and the Bigger the Government, the more income the country requires to Function. IF you don't want a Big Government, Find yourself a Smaller Country to live in. But we only have our own progenitor's concept of Manifest Destiny to blame for the size of our Government. Our Forefather's envisioned a much smaller nation when they had the idea for Small government. But Our Greed and Hubris made that idea impossible before the ink on the Constitution was even dry.

 

[Jeffwhosoever]

I agree with this statement.

I believe the answer is the free market economy, not more government programs to make captives out of the poor through long term dependency. Even Bill Clinton knows this is a bad idea.