Clint Eastwood gave the most incredible speech of the Republican convention

[Rion]

Perhaps you need to check out the definitions before you speak:

Neoliberalism is a contemporary political movement advocating economic liberalizations, free trade and open markets. Neoliberalism supports the privatization of nationalized industries, deregulation, and enhancing the role of the private sector in modern society. It is commonly informed by neoclassical or Austrian economics. The term neoliberal today is often used as a general condemnation of economic liberalization policies and advocates.[1][2] Neoliberalism shares many concepts with mainstream schools of economic thought.
Neoliberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So it's a derogatory name. Nice. I thought we had a thread about those, though?

Classical liberals, who broadly emphasized the importance of free markets and civil liberties, dominated liberal history for a century after the French Revolution. The onset of World War I and the Great Depression, however, accelerated the trends begun in late 19th century Europe towards a "new liberalism" (social liberalism) that emphasized a greater role for the state in ameliorating societal ills. By the beginning of the 21st century, liberal democracies and their fundamental characteristics—support for constitutions, civil rights and individual liberties, pluralistic society, and the welfare state—were widespread in most regions around the world.

Even what you posted says classic liberalism =/= new liberalism.

 

[HerbieHeadley]

Clint Eastwood is my favorite actor/director. Initially, I was horrified and saddened by this ghastly performance.

But it ultimately made me look more closely at the Republican National Committee.

What were they thinking?

How many ways can one say, "mistake"?
Republican convention went off the "cliffs of insanity" with this one.

For heaven's sake, what were they thinking?
Is this a glimpse of what Republican good judgment looks like?

This was the last night of the Republican convention.
And we are given this?

Try as I may, will I ever be able to erase the image of my favorite actor/director playing the part of a demented, crazed old man?

But as bad as this is, what does it say for a Republican Party that can have so little sense as to allow this to happen?

 

[HerbieHeadley]

 

[HerbieHeadley]

 

[Drekkan85]

So it's a derogatory name. Nice. I thought we had a thread about those, though?

Except it's not. Neoliberalism is an important economic and political theory that has many proponents. Some use it in a derogatory sense - they're usually people that don't grasp economics, or they're keynesians with an axe to grind.

I'd describe myself as a neoliberal, so would many leading economists and policymakers.

 

[Rion]

Except it's not. Neoliberalism is an important economic and political theory that has many proponents. Some use it in a derogatory sense - they're usually people that don't grasp economics, or they're keynesians with an axe to grind.

I'd describe myself as a neoliberal, so would many leading economists and policymakers.

Yes, I know. In his case, however, it is being used as a derogatory term, applied to all libertarians, whom he hates.

Back on topic...

 

[paul becke]

Famous Hollywood actors often end up believing their own publicity; or rather believing the publicity surrounding their typecast persona. Clint's played Dirty Harry too many times. He kind of thinks that's who he is, now promoted to a desk job.

If they go against the monied right-wing establishment, it usually comes back to bite them. I remember it happened to an actor called Ed (forget his surname) who, I believe, played a radical, campaigning news editor in a TV series. Digressing a little, I believe the Republicans tried to destroy the Black-Eyed Peas.

 

[mzungu]

Yes, I know. In his case, however, it is being used as a derogatory term, applied to all libertarians, whom he hates.

Ever since the Friedman model of Neo Liberalism was put into effect; The world experiences on average a global economic crisis per decade. Neo Liberalism is the bane of any civilised society. Neo Liberalism wants to rid this planet of all religions, national identities, family ties, etc in order to implement a totally privatised system where the majority of people will have to pay even for the air they breathe while earning a pittance!

Neo Liberalism is more like the system used during the middle ages. It is a money above all system specifically designed to cater to the few elite! If you don't believe me then look at America. How in the past 4 decades has degenerated into a country doomed to be run by the Banks while the Americans will end up not owning any industry. If Satan himself could devise an economic system then he would certainly come up with Neo Liberalism!

Watch the WHOLE video first and then we can talk! the Documentary is not only about Greece. Watch it and you will see the Friedman model being applied and how it destroys economies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCGSiqow9k4

 

[Rion]

Ever since the Friedman model of Neo Liberalism was put into effect; The world experiences on average a global economic crisis per decade. Neo Liberalism is the bane of any civilised society. Neo Liberalism wants to rid this planet of all religions, national identities, family ties, etc in order to implement a totally privatised system where the majority of people will have to pay even for the air they breathe while earning a pittance!

Neo Liberalism is more like the system used during the middle ages. It is a money above all system specifically designed to cater to the few elite! If you don't believe me then look at America. How in the past 4 decades has degenerated into a country doomed to be run by the Banks while the Americans will end up not owning any industry. If Satan himself could devise an economic system then he would certainly come up with Neo Liberalism!

So... it's like a corporate version of how Communism turns out every time? Except it's less killing and more taxing?

 

[NightHawkeye]

Thanks, Herbie.

That adds new meaning to an old holiday.

Labor - 1a : expenditure of physical or mental effort especially when difficult or compulsory

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[PreachersWife2004]

What really cracks me up is how quickly the media assumed Eastwood was shilling for Obama back when he did the Chrysler Superbowl commercial, and then he comes and does this thing at the RNC convention.

I can see why he was such a "big" guest at the convention. Eastwood normally votes democrat.

 

[SolomonVII]

Famous Hollywood actors often end up believing their own publicity; or rather believing the publicity surrounding their typecast persona. Clint's played Dirty Harry too many times. He kind of thinks that's who he is, now promoted to a desk job.

No he doesn't! There is no evidence of that at all in his speech!!!
The tongue-in-cheek involved in his playing to any popular persona that he developed in his working career would have been impossible to miss by anyone with any discernment at all.

If they go against the monied right-wing establishment, it usually comes back to bite them. I remember it happened to an actor called Ed (forget his surname) who, I believe, played a radical, campaigning news editor in a TV series.

This is ludicrous!!

The vast majority of Hollywood types go against the monied right wing establishment and go with the monied left wing establishment. Hollywood is the monied left wing establishment. The Clint Eastwoods and Kelsey Grammers are the exception to that rule.
That is so well known that it is a truism.

Digressing a little, I believe the Republicans tried to destroy the Black-Eyed Peas.

When it comes to music groups, that would be a foolish policy to try and destroy them. 95% of them self-destruct without any outside help at all.
It is the lifestyle.

 

[FreeinChrist]

I thought it was embarrassing for him. He seemed a bit off. He said:

But I just think that there is so much to be done, and I
think
that Mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan are two guys that can come along.

See, I
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never thought it was a good idea for attorneys to the president,
anyway.

Read more: Transcript of Clint Eastwood speech at RNC | Fox News​

he said that because Obama is a Harvard educated lawyer - but so is Romney. So Clint doesn't think Romney should be president either??? That made me laugh.

And he said:

But you thought the war in Afghanistan was OK.
You
know, I mean -- you thought that was something worth doing. We
didn't
check with the Russians to see how did it -- they did there for
10
years.

Read more: Transcript of Clint Eastwood speech at RNC | Fox News
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Didn't Clint know the war in Afghanistan started October 1, 2001 when Bush was President?

He was rambling and just off - and took attention away from Mitt on his big night.

It made me chuckle.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

It should be a wake up call to every single politician in this country that people on both sides are just sick of it.

Yes, this IS my country and I don't care what party you belong to, if you're not doing your job it's time for you to go.

That's the message I took away from his speech. If it's the message that a good majority of people took away from it, then good on him.

 

[SolomonVII]

I thought it was embarrassing for him. He seemed a bit off. He said:


he said that because Obama is a Harvard educated lawyer - but so is Romney. So Clint doesn't think Romney should be president either??? That made me laugh.

I am rather embarrassed for you, if you don't knwo that Romney has left his mark as a successful businessman, whose business savvy saved the Salt Lake Olympics for example.

Didn't Clint know the war in Afghanistan started October 1, 2001 when Bush was President?

Of course he knows that!
Everybody knows that.
He also knows that Obama supported Afghanistan as the "good war" as opposed to the bad war in Iraq. His point on the War in Afghanistan went more to Obama serving a withdrawal date, in which case why not just withdraw them right now rather than risk their lives in a lost cause?

 

[EdwinWillers]

It should be a wake up call to every single politician in this country that people on both sides are just sick of it.

Yes, this IS my country and I don't care what party you belong to, if you're not doing your job it's time for you to go.

That's the message I took away from his speech. If it's the message that a good majority of people took away from it, then good on him.

Ditto.

And it's quite clear that's the message most people came away with. In his own inimitable style, Clint hit right at the core of the matter - if you don't do the job you were hired to do, regardless who you are, to which party you belong, or how good you speak, we need to let you go.

I just find it so amusing that the most people are accusing Clint of on the left is how he delivered that message - criticism because he didn't *sound* very good - which of course is why those same people didn't get the message themselves.

...and it's why Obama can't point to his record in this campaign either. Rather than take responsibility for his utter ineptitude and poor record, all he's got is - his story - which ironically he admits he wasn't even very good telling that!

By ALL accounts - including his own, he needs to be let go.
.
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[Anovah]

I love the idea that Eastwood is being criticized because he was just TOO DARNED GOOD!

Lol, keep livin in that fantasy land I guess.

 

[FreeinChrist]

I am rather embarrassed for you, if you don't knwo that Romney has left his mark as a successful businessman, whose business savvy saved the Salt Lake Olympics for example.

However you didn't address what Clint said - that he didn't think lawyers should be president despite the fact that Romney has a law degree from Harvard.
Should I be embarrased for you? Let's not make this personal SolomonVII.

Of course he knows that!
Everybody knows that.
He also knows that Obama supported Afghanistan as the "good war" as opposed to the bad war in Iraq. His point on the War in Afghanistan went more to Obama serving a withdrawal date, in which case why not just withdraw them right now rather than risk their lives in a lost cause?

Clint ignored the fact that it was under a Bush administration that it started. Ending it will be messy . Romney didn't say anything about Afghanistan in his speech....Clint doesn't speak for him, Romney needs to spell out his view himself.

From what I read of Romney's comments, he might take us to war with Iran if he is elected.

Overall, Clint's routine was rambling, hard to follow and he was not clear. And he drew attention away from Romney:

How the Clint Eastwood Fiasco Was Allowed to Happen - Forbes

The New york Post (owned by Murdoch) had a front page with a big picture of Clint and a small picture of Romney in the lower corner. Folks are talking about Clint alot - that takes attention from Romney

 

[EdwinWillers]

I love the idea that Eastwood is being criticized because he was just TOO DARNED GOOD!

Lol, keep livin in that fantasy land I guess.

Actually, and I'm just speaking for myself here, I stated Clint is being criticized for not sounding good.

And frankly, he didn't "sound" good.

...but that isn't the point. The point is what he said (versus how he said it) - which, in case you missed it or were perhaps focused on how he sounded as many are, is that when someone doesn't do their job (as Obama clearly hasn't done his - even according to him), they need to be let go.

That statement (not how he said it) was good - and needed to be said.

 

[EdwinWillers]

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Overall, Clint's routine was rambling, hard to follow and he was not clear. And he drew attention away from Romney

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Folks are talking about Clint alot - that takes attention from Romney

Yes it does - but not in a bad way.

National Chair Day (special thanks to Herbie for his efforts here)