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Let's Talk About Hell (6)
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Doesn't this refute YOUR view instead of ours?
If destroy and perish mean kill and die, that is what we are saying. Your claim requires them to mean the opposite of destroy, perish, kill and die.
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dollarsbill
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Annihilationists cannot refute Luke 16, Rev 14 and 20 so they must look elsewhere for 'proof'.
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We don't refute Luke 16, Rev 14 and 20.
We just don't accept your misunderstanding of Luke 16, Rev 14 and 20.
We also read the whole bible, not just 3 passages.
We just don't accept your misunderstanding of Luke 16, Rev 14 and 20.
We also read the whole bible, not just 3 passages.
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It means what Jesus meant when He said it. It means what Luke meant when he wrote it. It doesn't mean what dollarsbill wants it to mean.
Check out LLOJ's thread "I am having five brothers".
We can discuss the parable in another place. It has nothing to do with eternal torment.
Check out LLOJ's thread "I am having five brothers".
We can discuss the parable in another place. It has nothing to do with eternal torment.
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dollarsbill
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The rich man who died and is in TORMENT in the fire has nothing to do with eternal torment???????????
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No, the parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man is not proof of eternal torment.
Don't you have any other proof? That is so sad. I guess you will give up now.
Don't you have any other proof? That is so sad. I guess you will give up now.
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It's a violation of forum rules to claim someone is not a Christian when they have identified themselves as a Christian.
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dollarsbill
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There is NO PARABLE of Lazarus in Luke 16. It is presented as LITERAL.
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dollarsbill
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Just saying Christians believe Luke to be God's word. So tell us where it says Luke 16 is a parable.
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I've proven that the bible says the wages of sin is death. The bible says that the penalty is eternal desstruction. The bible says that the wicked will perish and be no more. If you believe something else, shouldn't you have to prove it? So it is up to you to prove that somewhere in Luke 16 it says "The wicked will not perish but will be tortured in hell forever," and then you have to prove that the parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man is not a parable.
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dollarsbill
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You haven't proven anything.
You should pay attention to YOUR words.
On earth.
Check Rev 14 and 20, FOREVER!!!!!
Luke 16 is perfectly clear. The rich man died, is alive in the fire, no escape. No PARABLE mentioned!
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Originally Posted by Timothew
You don't believe that the bible says that the wages of sin is death?
This is a bigger problem than I thought. Read Romans 6:23 where it says (ahem, quote) "the wages of sin is death".
I've proven that the bible says the wages of sin is death.
You don't believe that the bible says that the wages of sin is death?
This is a bigger problem than I thought. Read Romans 6:23 where it says (ahem, quote) "the wages of sin is death".
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dollarsbill
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How many times must I answer this SAME question? How many times have you asked this same question????
You are distorting this Scripture. It has been proven over and over ....This is a bigger problem than I thought. Read Romans 6:23 where it says (ahem, quote) "the wages of sin is death".
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How is QUOTING the Scripture VERBATUM distorting the scripture?
Changing what the scripture says would be distorting it, and that is what you are doing. "Oh, well death here doesn't really mean death it actually means eternal life in hell and don't pay any attention to God who says that eternal life is only found in Jesus Christ."
And you ACCUSE me of distorting the scripture. Please. You aren't getting any traction.
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