It could take decades for it all to happen. We're under no obligation to recognize the messiah.
He has to be king too, by the way.
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what messianic prophecies where not fulfilled by jesus?
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It could take decades for it all to happen. We're under no obligation to recognize the messiah.
He has to be king too, by the way.
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yes...i forgot....thats a big one...king of israel....what will he do with the turmoil in jerusalem....and the dome of the rock over the site....and the muslems....thats a big task for him....will he be a man of peace or war?
how will he become king?...by force or peace?....how will he be recieved by israel?
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All the prophecies speak of a war that happens. So does Revelation, so Jesus will fight a war if you are correct.
We are never shown where Israel fights him.
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but your messiah or the torah messiah that you seek is a man of peace not war....right?
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so the messiah you seek...sheds no blood?....wars with no country?....but makes peace through what means?
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I already said that there is a war mentioned in the Tanakh. Enemies surround Israel and Israel prevails.
HaShem makes world peace though whatever means He chooses. We are merely told that once messiah comes, there will be peace like we have never known before.
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the gog and magog war...right?....what your saying is... before messiah comes... war takes place between gentile nations and israel ...then messiah comes and destroys the enemies of israel and becomes king builds temple and establishes world peace.....
yes israel does not fight with Jesus.....by then israel as a whole will have seen the light.....yet ...there are those who worship the image...jew and gentile that will have stubbornly rebel in the future
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see...the door is open for all possibilities for a false messiah and a deception.....
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so give me a timeline of how you see events unfold if you dont mind....
1 elijah comes
2 war between israel and gentile nations
3 messiah comes
4 messiah gets victory over nations
5 builds temple
6 world peace......
something like that?...when are the dead raised?
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As I see it, 2 and 3 could be in the other order. It is not 100% clear. I am not sure where the resurrection of the dead occurs. Again, it is not exactly clear.
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i see...well im off to the store....bbl...peace loammi....
ps...no offence on anything i said...i hope you know that ...just sharing what i believe the new testament says about things,.....may all men be saved by God almighty.....and none decieve by satan...including me...peace
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Originally Posted by LoAmmiI already said that there is a war mentioned in the Tanakh. Enemies surround Israel and Israel prevails.
HaShem makes world peace though whatever means He chooses. We are merely told that once messiah comes, there will be peace like we have never known before.
Including the false assumption of this so called 7 yr peace treaty some fanatical Christians believe in
Tribulation Saints - After The Rapture
The Tribulation begins when Antichrist signs or renews a 7 year peace treaty with Israel. On the day of this event, the Tribulation begins and lasts for 7 years, or 2,520 days (30 days to a Biblical month).
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Including the false assumption of this so called 7 yr peace treaty some fanatical Christians believe in
Tribulation Saints - After The Rapture
The Tribulation begins when Antichrist signs or renews a 7 year peace treaty with Israel. On the day of this event, the Tribulation begins and lasts for 7 years, or 2,520 days (30 days to a Biblical month).
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why is it assumed that its a peace treaty?....will they be at war?....
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I dont think it will be a peace treaty....but a covenant between the false king of israel and 10 kings to come....perhaps an agreement to honor noachide laws within their kingdoms....since the little horn comes after the establishment of the 10 kingdoms....it may suggest that the first assyrian kings son rises to power and breaks that agreement....having other plans....actually it does not have to be the kings son...but any future assyrian who will rise to power...eventually seeking to take israel for himself and end the reign of the false messiah before him...desiring to be god and king of israel
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