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what messianic prophecies where not fulfilled by jesus?

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There is no eternal damnation in the Torah. It seems like it is Christianity that found that punishment.
I refuse to look. I can tell right now it is anti-semantic nonsense. Pretty much all those sites are. They will have the same nonsense quotes that are misquotes or sometimes outright do not exist in the text.
I do not need to have my blood pressure through the roof because some racist decided to attack my people.

dont get your blood presurr up...you put a lot of faith in your rabbis....im just saying there human....you may be correct...this doctrine was not the rabbinic thought....and its just anti semetic....so that the world sees jews as wicked men...but if it is the mentality of some orthodox rabbis.....well whose to say?
 
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dont get your blood presurr up...you put a lot of faith in your rabbis....im just saying there human....you may be correct...this doctrine was not the rabbinic thought....and its just anti semetic....so that the world sees jews as wicked men...but if it is the mentality of some orthodox rabbis.....well whose to say?

and the Westboro Baptist Church is about as hateful an organization as I can think of, but I would not judge Christians based upon their behavior.

I am sure some rabbis, Orthodox or not, hold ideas that I disagree with. I saw one rabbi get caught on To Catch A Predator. Does that make all rabbis child molesters? Of course it does not.
 
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I have not looked them all over, but no, it is not what is taught.

Tell you what, I'll even address one. I have not bothered to see if it exists (as I have oftne found many quotes to be simply made up), but I could believe it to be so:

[SIZE=-1]"A certain man was pouring wine from one jar into another by means of a tube, when a Goi came along and touched the tube with his hand. As a result all the wine (in both jars) had to be thrown away."[/SIZE]


Kosher wine can only be made by Jews (as far as I remember). If anybody other than a Jew works in the process, it is no longer Kosher. So, the wine would have become non-Kosher by the materials being touched by a non-Jew.

The site tries to claim Jews think "Christians" are unclean by saying this. First of all, "goi" is not "Christian" it means non-Jew. Secondly, the wine is required to be made exclusively by Jews, so a non-Jew handling it would render it non-Kosher. It is not evil, it is technical.

ok this sound racial...why can only jews make wine?
 
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and the Westboro Baptist Church is about as hateful an organization as I can think of, but I would not judge Christians based upon their behavior.

I am sure some rabbis, Orthodox or not, hold ideas that I disagree with. I saw one rabbi get caught on To Catch A Predator. Does that make all rabbis child molesters? Of course it does not.

true...a christian is only a christian if he practices christianity properly...im sure that is the same for jews....a true jew keeps the 10 commandments at least to the best of his ability....
 
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It is also close to 610, and 611, and 612, and 614. Does close to something count now?

lol...so this is rambams list...compiles of the teachings of the torah one must obey to remain in covenant relationship with god?
 
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Those are the ones that are in the Torah.

well thank you for shareing...as always i enjoy our conversation..hope i didnot get your blood pressure to high.:)...peace brother loammi
 
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