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what messianic prophecies where not fulfilled by jesus?

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probably so but i may have forgotten.....


Anyone can cause world peace with help of nations....and using unseen technology forces.. so no one is ever accused...like the past two resent tsunamies ....were probably manipulated....these thing such as weather manipulalations earthquakes and such can depopulate earth and enemies of the agenda for world peace

the temple built one last time?....several times in history the temple was built....and this next temple to come will not last long
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all will know hashem...how?....when he is invisible and is suppose to reside in the holy of holies when its built?......and only the high priest will enter...

all tbe jews in israel?.....so many claim to be jews...many can come out and make aalyah to israel and it can be seen as the prophecy coming to pass

all im saying is if these are signs....they are not so convincing....and can be manipulated by mans abilities today......thats why jesus prophecies of the end times say be not decieve..for his signs will be far more convincing when they occure

So, if our technology is as great as you say (which I disagree with), is it not possible for someone to fake Jesus' return to deceive you?
 
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So, if our technology is as great as you say (which I disagree with), is it not possible for someone to fake Jesus' return to deceive you?

i have question that possibility...but have not come up with definate answers...perhaps they may try....but why?...idk...i have ideas but mostly speculations...but it seems to me that the ultimate goal is to estabish a jewish kingdom....this is the struggle for world dominion....and peace with the law ruling forever....no one else ....not even jesus....but no one can stop the lord from taking what belongs to him....though man will try
 
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i have question that possibility...but have not come up with definate answers...perhaps they may try....but why?...idk...i have ideas but mostly speculations...but it seems to me that the ultimate goal is to estabish a jewish kingdom....this is the struggle for world dominion....and peace with the law ruling forever....no one else ....not even jesus....but no one can stop the lord from taking what belongs to him....though man will try

We are less than 1% of the World's population. I have a lot of trouble believing we would be able to pull that off.
 
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We are less than 1% of the World's population. I have a lot of trouble believing we would be able to pull that off.

1% are true jewish decent?....what about all in judaism?.....still 1%?
 
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Originally Posted by dfw69 1% are true jewish decent?....what about all in judaism?.....still 1%?
In all of Judaism you have much less. Far less than 1%.
Isn't that what Deut 28 says would happen if the Jews did not belived unto His Son Jesus that He sent?

http://www.olivetree.com/cgi-bin/EnglishBible.htm

NKJV) Deut 28:43 "The alien who [is] among thee shall rise higher and higher above the, and thou shall come down lower and lower.
44 "He shall lend to thee, but thou shall not lend to him;
he shall be the head, and you shall be the tail.


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Isn't that what Deut 28 says would happen if the Jews did not belived unto His Son Jesus that He sent?

No, the beginning verse says:
15 However, if you do not obey the Lord your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come on you and overtake you:


I do not see anything about "Jesus" or "His son" or anything to that effect. Could you show me where it says such things?

Also, Jews have always been a small percentage of the overall population. It was that way when the Torah was written, so why should it not be so today?
 
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In all of Judaism you have much less. Far less than 1%.

so israel will need help of the nations to preserve thier way of life....lets speculate for a moment......i believe mystery babylon is the babylonian talmud or rabbinic rule...because for one it has the name and babylonian talmud was created in babylon 500ad or so.....it is said that she will seduce 10kingdoms....and together...jews and gentile leaders working together to bring world peace......establish the false millenium....the talmud will rule for a short space.....but then...because of this falsehood.....god allowd the assyrian to come and complish all he will....then hearing the cries of his people the lord will rebuke the assyrian and rescue the remnant of israel....and the will make the everlasting covenant with jesus....all will know the lord in those days...the city and final temple built....this will be the
4th and final temple of israel...and israel will be safe forever....and israel will become as the sands of the sea
 
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so israel will need help of the nations to preserve thier way of life....lets speculate for a moment......i believe mystery babylon is the babylonian talmud or rabbinic rule...because for one it has the name and babylonian talmud was created in babylon 500ad or so.....it is said that she will seduce 10kingdoms....and together...jews and gentile leaders working together to bring world peace......establish the false millenium....the talmud will rule for a short space.....but then...because of this falsehood.....god allowd the assyrian to come and complish all he will....then hearing the cries of his people the lord will rebuke the assyrian and rescue the remnant of israel....and the will make the everlasting covenant with jesus....all will know the lord in those days...the city and final temple built....this will be the
4th and final temple of israel...and israel will be safe forever

So, what exactly do you know about the Talmud?
 
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So, what exactly do you know about the Talmud?


that i disagree with its teachings....such as god not being as us...god is a spirit body...looks like man...things like that....noahide laws for gentiles im against...because it carries penalties....

but i have read some things that suggest the talmud teaching speak against christ in coded language...its antichrist in spirit
 
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that i disagree with its teachings....such as god not being as us...god is a spirit body...looks like man...things like that....noahide laws for gentiles im against...because it carries penalties....

We do not believe HaShem looks like a man.

Not believing in Jesus carries a penalty but you are ok with that. Double standard?
but i have read some things that suggest the talmud teaching speak against christ in coded language...its antichrist in spirit

The Talmud does not address Jesus once. Jesus is a non-factor in Judaism.
 
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We do not believe HaShem looks like a man.

Not believing in Jesus carries a penalty but you are ok with that. Double standard?


The Talmud does not address Jesus once. Jesus is a non-factor in Judaism.

yes i know

true but he is lord...the penalty is actually not in christianity but in the law....in jesus one is saved from the power of sin and judgement...the law condemns if continue for all have sin against the law....yet there are penalties in christianity
.....you reap what you sow...if one kills he will be killed...if one hatess...he is in danger of hell fire...so yes...but these are fair judgements imo

there is a link called unmasking the talmud....it is a wicked doctrine...
 
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yes i know

true but he is lord...the penalty is actually not in christianity but in the law....in jesus one is saved from the power of sin and judgement...the law condemns if continue for all have sin against the law....yet there are penalties in christianity
.....you reap what you sow...if one kills he will be killed...if one hatess...he is in danger of hell fire...so yes...but these are fair judgements imo

There is no eternal damnation in the Torah. It seems like it is Christianity that found that punishment.
there is a link called unmasking the talmud....it is a wicked doctrine...
I refuse to look. I can tell right now it is anti-semantic nonsense. Pretty much all those sites are. They will have the same nonsense quotes that are misquotes or sometimes outright do not exist in the text.
I do not need to have my blood pressure through the roof because some racist decided to attack my people.
 
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you reap what you sow....sounds like karma to me

Lol...but it holds greater significance at the day of judgement for god knows the secrets and soul of man...he knows are true intentions...we will all be judged....and we arre all sinners...only jesus blood saves us...there is no other way
 
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I was curious so I found it.

Utter nonsense.

that you found it...convinces me that it exist...who is following these teachings?...we dont know how much power that doctrines holds on some...is it significant?...who knows...will see....cause praise god all things will be revealed...it is fact...
 
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that you found it...convinces me that it exist...who is following these teachings?...we dont know how much power that doctrines holds on some...is it significant?...who knows...will see....cause praise god all things will be revealed...it is fact...

I found the website YOU mentioned. It is full of nonsense.
 
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Yes...but those wicked teachings exist...but this is not what talmud teaches?

I have not looked them all over, but no, it is not what is taught.

Tell you what, I'll even address one. I have not bothered to see if it exists (as I have oftne found many quotes to be simply made up), but I could believe it to be so:

[SIZE=-1]"A certain man was pouring wine from one jar into another by means of a tube, when a Goi came along and touched the tube with his hand. As a result all the wine (in both jars) had to be thrown away."[/SIZE]


Kosher wine can only be made by Jews (as far as I remember). If anybody other than a Jew works in the process, it is no longer Kosher. So, the wine would have become non-Kosher by the materials being touched by a non-Jew.

The site tries to claim Jews think "Christians" are unclean by saying this. First of all, "goi" is not "Christian" it means non-Jew. Secondly, the wine is required to be made exclusively by Jews, so a non-Jew handling it would render it non-Kosher. It is not evil, it is technical.
 
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