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There's still time for You to give opinions. I have tried to get some of those I've discussed with the most, to give opinions. So far not many more than ebia (who has more traditional views than me) has replied.
What does everyone think of the Catholic material available to Logos 4 library builder?
Check this search:
catholic library - Logos Bible Software
1) One disadvantage, is that there's no NRSV-CE available to Logos, that's strange IMHO. Actually I think NRSV-CE is a bad version, but I use for example a Gn commentary that happens to specifically have the NRSV-CE as text, and a book I have and which is very practical: Christianity The Complete Guide, edited John Bowden, Continuum, 2005, cites from the NRSV.
Of course what's more irritating is that the Confraternity Version is not avaible. Although it's not available electronically in any competing software anyway.
I notice that there has still not been developed a Catholic Edition reverse interlinear English-Greek of the Septuagint Deuterocanon since the Brent Septuagint (and it's not reverse, is it?): Amazon.com: David Bennett's review of The Septuagint with Apocrypha: Greek and E... - the NRSV Apocrypha (note: not NRSV-CE edition strangely enough even though Catholics are more numerous) is Under Development but done very soon, and it's not even included in the Original Languages base package and will not be. AND I would have prefered they make a REB Apocrypha reverse interlinear.
I'm getting a 15% discount on expensive items/packages above $200.
2) An clear disadvantage of the Catholic Library Builder (238 volumes), is that they've included 7 items by Raymond E. Brown. I really don't like that author, You see!
- Possible optional sollution to exclude Raymond E. Brown -books: to have Catholic Foundations Library - Logos Bible Software $245 -15% (has John MacEvilly commentaries instead).
- ...advantage of the option: New Living Translation & NKJV excluded, Lives of the Saints excluded, some 2012 item(s?) included, A Marginal Jew excluded, excludes James Bohn
- ...disadvantage of the option: fewer volumes, Bible dictionary included, Holman Bible Atlas Charts Maps Reconstructions included, a little bit fewer commentaries
One difference between the packages is that the Catholic Library Builder seeks to understand/contrast to some denominations (Joseph Pole & John Henry Newman included), while the Catholic Foundations Libary does not.
IF YOU STILL WANT TO VOTE: GO TO: http://www.christianforums.com/t7647231/
ON THE POLLS: please don't vote if You don't have experience of the Catholic material (either that You have downloaded it or have it available some other way or read through earlier on) in the packages to Logos, OR know me a bit and can therefore personally address a recommendation.
WHAT'S BUGGING ME THE MOST, is that I'm interested in the Catholic Foundations Library, but it seems to contain a whole lot of books with traditional Catholic view, and VERY little with less orthodox, more critical, or even more liberal views. Although keep in mind, that I'm a fundamentalist when it comes to some beliefs!
I post often about which parts of the Bible not to read, and I believe that Bible versions have to be critical, more critical than the major versions are. I don't select versions based on how popular they are right now. I'm not converted to Catholicism yet. I post some in the Unorthodox theology forum.
Of course I believe in the core aspects of Catholic definition of the faith, such as what the Eucharist is believed to be, the Resurrection, the Trinity, etc. So I'm a real Christian. I don't doubt EVERYTHING. And I have a strong belief in Scripture, i.e. in the parts I read. I'm NOT the type of guy who reads the whole Bible, and it's been close to 20 years since I read most of the Bible, the past 10 years I've read only small portions really, and I mean it. I do well without reading everything, and I have a somewhat good memory, so I still remember what I read 20 years ago in other languages, so I have an overall grasp. What I need to do, is to go more in-depth.
Scroll through the posts in this thread and notice for example: http://www.christianforums.com/t7644634-post60204932/#post60204932
... it contains my latest considerations. The friends I mentioned in the top of that post, think it's very good that I'm interested in in-depth information.
But I'm a bit of a non-conformist, and I think it'll take some time for me before I'm accepted as a Catholic member. But I AM very interested indeed in the Roman Catholic Church and it's the closest equivalent anyway to what I believe.
Read more generally about commentaries and study of Biblical languages (I'm thinking of buying the Original Languages base package), in another thread, if You have time to read about commentaries & discussions of electronic or printed matter -preferences: http://www.christianforums.com/t7541241-post60122804/#post60122804
SUMMARY #1: I'm thinking of placing an order soon an first study by myself, then maybe Bible college. I want to be able to decide which Catholic electronic package of books to order to my Logos 4. I haven't made any definite decisions yet, but I'll have to decide within three weeks before the offers discontinue for me personally.
SUMMARY #2: http://www.christianforums.com/t7641528-post60136687/
SUPPLEMENT: free electronic e-books
- Disadvantages: worse search possibilities, less reading-ergonomic, risk that Adobe Reader crashes
- Example #1: Bibles and Commentaries « Catholic eBooks Project
- Example #2: Theology « Catholic eBooks Project
- Example #3: CATHOLIC BOOKWORM » Bible Commentaries, Studies, Related Issues
As it's always good to put consideration into what to buy, relevant to the T I want to remind of another thread about books:
http://www.christianforums.com/t7396662-post58361047/#post58361047
And reminder of another good thread: http://www.christianforums.com/t7628329-post59784320/#post59784320
... please post there if You have any favourite cardinal?
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Previously edited by Unix; 1st April 2012 at 03:54 PM local time. Reason: Add about Septuagint Deuterocanon interlinear
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What does everyone think of the Catholic material available to Logos 4 library builder?
Check this search:
catholic library - Logos Bible Software
1) One disadvantage, is that there's no NRSV-CE available to Logos, that's strange IMHO. Actually I think NRSV-CE is a bad version, but I use for example a Gn commentary that happens to specifically have the NRSV-CE as text, and a book I have and which is very practical: Christianity The Complete Guide, edited John Bowden, Continuum, 2005, cites from the NRSV.
Of course what's more irritating is that the Confraternity Version is not avaible. Although it's not available electronically in any competing software anyway.
I notice that there has still not been developed a Catholic Edition reverse interlinear English-Greek of the Septuagint Deuterocanon since the Brent Septuagint (and it's not reverse, is it?): Amazon.com: David Bennett's review of The Septuagint with Apocrypha: Greek and E... - the NRSV Apocrypha (note: not NRSV-CE edition strangely enough even though Catholics are more numerous) is Under Development but done very soon, and it's not even included in the Original Languages base package and will not be. AND I would have prefered they make a REB Apocrypha reverse interlinear.
As far as translations go, the joy of electronic software is the power to compare - the more the better. "Catholic Editions" are a bit irrelevant - you get the Apocrapha which is the substantial difference. Make sure you have at least one translation that includes the reverse interlinear feature
I'm getting a 15% discount on expensive items/packages above $200.
2) An clear disadvantage of the Catholic Library Builder (238 volumes), is that they've included 7 items by Raymond E. Brown. I really don't like that author, You see!
- Possible optional sollution to exclude Raymond E. Brown -books: to have Catholic Foundations Library - Logos Bible Software $245 -15% (has John MacEvilly commentaries instead).
- ...advantage of the option: New Living Translation & NKJV excluded, Lives of the Saints excluded, some 2012 item(s?) included, A Marginal Jew excluded, excludes James Bohn
- ...disadvantage of the option: fewer volumes, Bible dictionary included, Holman Bible Atlas Charts Maps Reconstructions included, a little bit fewer commentaries
One difference between the packages is that the Catholic Library Builder seeks to understand/contrast to some denominations (Joseph Pole & John Henry Newman included), while the Catholic Foundations Libary does not.
IF YOU STILL WANT TO VOTE: GO TO: http://www.christianforums.com/t7647231/
ON THE POLLS: please don't vote if You don't have experience of the Catholic material (either that You have downloaded it or have it available some other way or read through earlier on) in the packages to Logos, OR know me a bit and can therefore personally address a recommendation.
WHAT'S BUGGING ME THE MOST, is that I'm interested in the Catholic Foundations Library, but it seems to contain a whole lot of books with traditional Catholic view, and VERY little with less orthodox, more critical, or even more liberal views. Although keep in mind, that I'm a fundamentalist when it comes to some beliefs!
I post often about which parts of the Bible not to read, and I believe that Bible versions have to be critical, more critical than the major versions are. I don't select versions based on how popular they are right now. I'm not converted to Catholicism yet. I post some in the Unorthodox theology forum.
Of course I believe in the core aspects of Catholic definition of the faith, such as what the Eucharist is believed to be, the Resurrection, the Trinity, etc. So I'm a real Christian. I don't doubt EVERYTHING. And I have a strong belief in Scripture, i.e. in the parts I read. I'm NOT the type of guy who reads the whole Bible, and it's been close to 20 years since I read most of the Bible, the past 10 years I've read only small portions really, and I mean it. I do well without reading everything, and I have a somewhat good memory, so I still remember what I read 20 years ago in other languages, so I have an overall grasp. What I need to do, is to go more in-depth.
Scroll through the posts in this thread and notice for example: http://www.christianforums.com/t7644634-post60204932/#post60204932
... it contains my latest considerations. The friends I mentioned in the top of that post, think it's very good that I'm interested in in-depth information.
But I'm a bit of a non-conformist, and I think it'll take some time for me before I'm accepted as a Catholic member. But I AM very interested indeed in the Roman Catholic Church and it's the closest equivalent anyway to what I believe.
Read more generally about commentaries and study of Biblical languages (I'm thinking of buying the Original Languages base package), in another thread, if You have time to read about commentaries & discussions of electronic or printed matter -preferences: http://www.christianforums.com/t7541241-post60122804/#post60122804
SUMMARY #1: I'm thinking of placing an order soon an first study by myself, then maybe Bible college. I want to be able to decide which Catholic electronic package of books to order to my Logos 4. I haven't made any definite decisions yet, but I'll have to decide within three weeks before the offers discontinue for me personally.
SUMMARY #2: http://www.christianforums.com/t7641528-post60136687/
SUPPLEMENT: free electronic e-books
- Disadvantages: worse search possibilities, less reading-ergonomic, risk that Adobe Reader crashes
- Example #1: Bibles and Commentaries « Catholic eBooks Project
- Example #2: Theology « Catholic eBooks Project
- Example #3: CATHOLIC BOOKWORM » Bible Commentaries, Studies, Related Issues
As it's always good to put consideration into what to buy, relevant to the T I want to remind of another thread about books:
http://www.christianforums.com/t7396662-post58361047/#post58361047
And reminder of another good thread: http://www.christianforums.com/t7628329-post59784320/#post59784320
... please post there if You have any favourite cardinal?
Previously edited by Unix; 29th March 2012 at 09:26 PM local time
Previously edited by Unix; 30th March 2012 at 07:23 AM local time
Previously edited by Unix; 31st March 2012 at 11:05 PM local time
Previously edited by Unix; 1st April 2012 at 01:12 AM local time
Previously edited by Unix; 1st April 2012 at 03:54 PM local time. Reason: Add about Septuagint Deuterocanon interlinear
Previously edited by Unix; 2nd April 2012 at 11:00 AM local time.
Previously edited by Unix; 7th April 2012 at 02:23 PM local time
Previously edited by Unix; 8th April 2012 at 04:49 AM local time. Reason: Add poll link
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